Nicole Kidman annulling marriage to Tom Cruise in order to marry Keith Urban

buttmunch · April 4th, 2006, 01:08 PM

Quote:

By Jeannette Walls
MSNBC
Updated: 2:43 a.m. ET April 4, 2006
Will Nicole Kidman get a church wedding?

The actress, a devout Catholic, has had her marriage to Tom Cruise annulled so she can marry her sweetie Keith Urban in a religious ceremony, according to reports coming from her homeland of Australia.

“It is believed Kidman has been told she would be granted an annulment of her marriage to Cruise because that marriage did not conform to the requirements of the church,” according to Australia’s Sunday Mail. Kidman was married to Tom Cruise from 1990 to 2001.

As far as a future wedding to Urban, “the date hasn’t been set although June or July have been mentioned as possibilities,” a source told the Mail.

“I’ve never been told by Nicole that she is actually engaged,” Kidman’s Aussie spokeswoman told the Mail in dismissing the story. “If and when she marries again, I’m sure she will make some sort of announcement.” Kidman’s U.S. rep told The Scoop she has “no idea” if the story is true, adding, “I’m afraid [I've] never heard this before!”

Why does Tomthumb keep hooking up with devout catholics? Is it because they're already indoctrinated into all kinds of interesting mind control, etc. and he sees them as easy prey?

Bellatheball · April 4th, 2006, 01:10 PM

If she wasn't married in the Catholic Church the first time, then it wasn't recognized by the church as an official marriage. Therefore, there's nothing to annul.

LynnieD · April 4th, 2006, 01:10 PM

How hard would we all laugh if she cited 'fraud' as the reason!! PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!

Cuz you just know they never had sex.....

Barbara · April 4th, 2006, 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killjoy

What the fuck?! Why can Catholic annul their marriages after years and years of marriage? You made the mistake live w/ being divorced, like the rest of the world. I also love when they get the marriage annulled and they have kids, does that make the children bastards then?

Ditto.

hollyweird · April 4th, 2006, 01:51 PM

If a Catholic was married to someone else in a civil ceremony or not in the Catholic church and gets divorced, then if this person wants to get married in the Catholic church, they have to have their previous marriage annuled before they can get married in the Catholic church. It's something like that. I have family members who are going through this now. I don't really understand it.
I found this on another website from someone commenting on the same article and looked up to find info on annulment.
{If either of you are (I'm assuming you are) Catholic, then you do not need an annulment, only a letter from your priest stating that your marriage never existed. If both of you are not Catholic, then your marriage is considered a marriage and you will need to proceed with the annulment process.} Nicole is Catholic. Is Keith Catholic? Tom is not. So I don't know if she needs the annulment or a letter saying her marriage to Tom never existed.

Bellatheball · April 4th, 2006, 02:01 PM

^^ If you were not married in a Catholic Church, the marriage doesn't count in the eyes of the Church so there's no reason to have it annulled.

Palermo · April 4th, 2006, 02:04 PM

I am Catholic but don't agree with a lot of what they think. Read into annulment: paid the church a lot of money

LynnieD · April 4th, 2006, 02:29 PM

I have never understood how marriages can be annulled...I really don't. To 'pretend' that the marriage never happened--hello?? I understand that this is all in the eyes of the church/god and whatever, but you just cannot wake up one day, and pretend that you were not married to someone for years and years. I am completely baffled by this! It's honestly absolutely fucking ridiculous.

My two cents....

KandyKorn · April 4th, 2006, 03:12 PM

I am not Catholic but I would've had my marriage annulled if I had been simply because the whole thing was a lie. Nothing I knew about the man was true and I was completely deceived. Just my .02 worth!

sweetrebel · April 4th, 2006, 03:18 PM

I understand from the religous standpoint that she wants to be married in the church with the church recognizing the marriage. But, like Lynnie said, it's not like they were married a la Kenny and Renee or Britney and Jason Alexander. They were married for years.
Is it just like a legal annullment? You have to site a reason, or is the religous version different?

girliekinduk · April 4th, 2006, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buttmunch

Why does Tomthumb keep hooking up with devout catholics? Is it because they're already indoctrinated into all kinds of interesting mind control, etc. and he sees them as easy prey?

i think he likes the challenge

catholics are seen by alot of religions as the most devout - and it'd probably be some weird boost up the scientology ladder to convert someone from a God-driven religion.

PrettyGirl · April 4th, 2006, 03:35 PM

Oh, this is perfect for me. I just got done with an entire year of catechism. Also, I was engaged at one time. My former fiance had been married before too.

A lot of it depends on the Diocese you're from, just how 'strict' they want to be, but officially, a person who has been married before (such as my ex fiance was and Nicole Kidman was) were married in a civil ceremony. They were never married through the Catholic Church, therefore, an annulment through the Vatican is not neccessary. But, you do need to provide legal 'proof' that you are indeed divorced now.

Now, here's the 'catch'...even if you were never married through the Catholic church, if you were married in ANY faith where Christ's name was used and you were supposedly united in the name of Christ in whatever faith that was (Baptist, Methodist, etc..), your parish and/or Diocese will request further info. You may need to get 'permission' from the Bishop or Vatican to get married in the Catholic Church. In the Church's eyes, if you have been united in marriage by Christ period, you can not 'void' that unification and marry in another faith. In other words, the Church won't re-marry you even if you weren't united in marriage in their Church...if the person (or church) who married you the last time used the name of Christ in any way, that previous marriage needs to be annuled.

Same thing in baptism. If you were baptised in ANY OTHER Christian faith and Christ's name was used, the Catholic Church will not 're-baptise' you when you convert over to Catholicism (if you choose to do so). It is the Church's belief that once you are baptised (or in this case married anywhere) in the name of Christ, that's it--it's a holy covenant.

When my ex-fiancee disclosed that he was divorced, they wanted to know FOR SURE that it was just a civil ceremony. They wanted proof of where he had been married and they wanted to know by whom. I don't think Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman were ever married in any sort of spiritual ceremony, therefore, I don't believe an annulment would be neccessary. I think the majority of this article above is hoopla--they want to make controversy when there is none. They married in a civil ceremony and if Nicole should ever wish to re-marry in the Catholic Church, all she would need to show is a divorce decree--that's if the man she's marrying didn't have any prior Christian marriages either.

Cate · April 4th, 2006, 03:47 PM

Pretty Girl is right. There is no marriage to nullify, because it technically never existed in the eyes of the church.

In other cases (where the couple had a valid church marriage), people can have their marriages nullified on the grounds that the marriage was not spiritually valid. (It was still a legal marriage and the kids are legitimate.) I was going to get my first marriage nullified, because my ex-husband was a cheater from day 1 (unknown to me), so probably had no intention of being faithful in the first place, had a history of mental problems (also unknown to me) and was an alcoholic/sex addict. He is absolutely incapable of being committed and faithful. I didn't get it done because it was 40 pages of paperwork to fill out and would have taken 6 months to a year to complete (fine and good), AND then I found out that the SOB was going to use the hard work I did, so he could marry his homewrecking girlfriend (who he cheats on) in the church. It was going to cost $400 total, but I could have requested a price break on it. (The $400 is to cover administrative costs, which was a huge bargain compared to the 10K+ my divorce cost me.)

I do think too many marriages are nullified (and think there are $$ trails with some of them), but I can understand why some people do it.

PrettyGirl · April 4th, 2006, 04:01 PM

The number of actual Catholic marriages that are annuled is very, very low. I forgot the exact numbers but I remember our priest did give it to us...thousands of people apply for annulments with the Vatican every year but very few are actually granted...not even 10%. I think these high-profile cases make it seem as if they're more.

Just for the record, the Catholic Church does recognize all marriages that were done in other faiths or even civilly. It's not like they think it never existed or they don't count. But they consider that uniting of those two persons done by man, not by God. A marriage by man does not have Christ's blessing. A spiritual one does and those are the one's they're concerned about--uniting people in marriage to others when they're already married by God to someone else.

chuckpony · April 4th, 2006, 05:04 PM

My mom had her marriage to my dad annulled so that she could marry my stepdad in the Catholic church. Yes, I always wondered if that makes all her kids bastards. I guess the church just trades one sin for another. I have not been involved in the Catholic church since I was confirmed 14 yrs ago.