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    Default The Great Milk Debate

    There's a lot of discussion here at the moment about whether or not humans should be drinking as much milk as the dairy marketing people would like us to. The Pro Dairy lobby, naturally, says that milk is an excellent source of protein, vitamins and calcium and the Anti Dairy people say that since it's designed for baby cows then it should be reserved only for them and that the human digestive system is not equipped to deal with the milk from another species and should find these nutrients from other sources.

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    Not me, can't drink the stuff because I'm lactose intolerant. Only drink it when constipated for quick relief.

    Oddly enough I have discovered that fresh raw milk doesn't affect me as badly as the commercially produced stuff. But I feel pretty certain humans weren't designed to drink as much milk as we've been hoodwinked into.

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    My chiropractor got me a little nervous about it, saying that all the hormones in the milk nowadays are why little girls are growing breasts, and boys are getting so big. I don't know of any scientific studies about this, however.

    My kids loooove milk & drink it every day. I love it too, but it's so fattening, and I'm now lactose intolerant. Drinking milk causes me great distress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UndercoverGator
    Not me, can't drink the stuff because I'm lactose intolerant. Only drink it when constipated for quick relief.

    Oddly enough I have discovered that fresh raw milk doesn't affect me as badly as the commercially produced stuff. But I feel pretty certain humans weren't designed to drink as much milk as we've been hoodwinked into.
    Try low-lactose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobelia
    My chiropractor got me a little nervous about it, saying that all the hormones in the milk nowadays are why little girls are growing breasts, and boys are getting so big. I don't know of any scientific studies about this, however.

    My kids loooove milk & drink it every day. I love it too, but it's so fattening, and I'm now lactose intolerant. Drinking milk causes me great distress.
    My father is a Chiropractor and I was raised that, bottom line, milk is 'designed' to feed and nurious (sp?) baby cows, period. And the funniest part of this is that my fathers own father was a DAIRY FARMER. I never drank it growing up, and do not now. I detest the taste anyway, always did. But Lobelia, you are correct....
    The Dairy people will tell you 'milk is chock full of vitamin D, vitamin this, vitamin that, calcium and is good for bones/teeth, etc. The truth (as I have been told) is that yes, milk DOES have vitamins and does assist in bone/teeth development--IN BABY COWS! The human body is obviously far different from cows and therefore, is not equipped to absorb all the 'good stuff' that the Dairy people want you to think you are getting, so you are basically pissing out all that calcium/minerals/vitamins. And THEN you get into the crap they feed these cows and the hormones they are injected with etc.
    My daughter is 2 and drinks almost NO milk. I am not keeping it from her mind you, but I haven't necessarily encouraged it either. She drinks water, period.
    She also eats a TON of yogurt (only good Organic stuff w/the good bacteria in it to keep her regular), so I am not concerned about calcium and all that shit with her....I'm fine, I never drank it.

    So, I'm on the anti side I guess...and I wonder if there are any others out there of if I'm the only one.
    Good thread AO!

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    Well Oreos and water don't go together quite as well, eh?

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    I drink 2 cups of it a day and take a daily lactose intolerance pill so I can digest it. It's part of the WW plan and every calcium supplement I've tried is just nowhere near palatable (ESPECIALLY those nasty Viactiv things, I gag when I try to take those). I was never a big milk drinker when I was younger, mostly because I cut out all dairy for a long time under the doctor's direction. I started losing my hearing when I was younger, something made my pediatrician believe it was caused by dairy (I don't know if there's any validity to his belief or what made him believe it, I've never researched it) so he told my family to cut it out of my diet. Eventually my hearing came back, I went back to dairy when I wanted it.

    The only sad thing is that I am an incomplete musician because of it. The time when my hearing was going bad was when it is really developing for other people. I lost out on certain development periods and I now can't tell tuning very well. I can hear when other people are out of tune, but I can't hear if I am out of tune from others until it is REALLY bad. I have to keep a tuner on my stand to monitor myself.

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    I dont drink milk at all. I read that there is actuallly something in that takes calcium out of your body instead of putting it in. Plus the fact that its disgusting and humans weren't meant to drink that. And also, I live near some dairy farms, and the conditions are deplorable and smell disgusting even with the car windows rolled up. The cows walk in and covered in their own crap. I don't want to get anywhere near that. I drink only soy and I like its taste better than real milk.

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    I tried soy milk once and threw up all over my cousin's shoe. I felt really bad afterwards. But anyway, maybe it's one of those things that you have to get yourself accustomed to the taste, kinda like with fake sugar...

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    I've always disliked the taste of milk. My parents made us drink it when we were kids, believing it was good for us - luckily it was only one glass with supper. Never liked the taste, though I love ice cream, yogurt etc. I tend to fall into the "anti" category as well - humans are just about the only creatures on the planet who continue drinking milk after infancy, and that's only because we farm it from cows, for some strange reason. If we were meant to drink milk all our lives, we would continue getting it from the (human) breast - that's what milk is, high-powered, vitamin-rich baby beverage - when it's from your own species. We're supposed to grow out of it.

    I drink soy milk now and prefer the taste by far. White Wave Silk is my favourite, and the chocolate version is delicious, tastes just like cocoa.
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    The thing is though, there is about as much anti-soy information out there as anti-milk.
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    I hate milk. I grew up drinking 2% milk - and then became lactose intolerant. Now I can't even stand the smell of it. I prefer soy milk 100%.

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    I have skimmed milk in tea and on cereal, but have never liked drinking it on its own. I think that stems from being made to drink it every day at school when I was little (in the dim and distant past, before Thatcher-Thatcher-Milk-Snatcher took it away and robbed poor kids of one of the few good parts of their diet), when on hot days in summer it was horribly warm and creamy and made me gag.

    I don't see a problem with milk as a part of a balanced diet for most adults though, although like a lot of things, it won't suit everyone.
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    I go through phases of it; I love skimmed milk lattes, although hate the taste of skimed milk by itself, I grew up drinking semi skimmed. I'll usually only have milk with my coffee (and skimmed if there's a lot of it) and on cereal when I eat it, then suddenly I'll get this craving for milk and will drink two pints of it in a night. Don't know what's wrong with me!

    I can't stand rice or soy milk, and think the amount of sweeteners in them pretty much destroys any health benefits, so would rather drink cow's milk in moderation.
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    i'm so sick of health studies... one year it's all, 'fat is bad for you!!! bad, bad, bad! cut it out!' and 2 years later 'oh wait, we were wrong, actually some fa is really good for you'. then it was the same with butter, vilified and then rehabilitated, the same with meat...
    for fuck's sake, everything is good in moderation.
    milk is yummy. but i wouldn't touch that antibiotic and hormone-ridden crap in north america. nothing tastes as good as organic swiss 2% milk... mmmmm
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