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Reply With QuoteI don't eat anything that had a heartbeat. I don't eat animals. I don't really care about the big circle of life/food chain.
I know I will get blasted for this. First I want to say I admire vegans, vegetarians and anyone who is diligent about their diet. My point is, we are a part of a self sustaining ecosystem as are animals, fish, plants, bugs, bees, etc. What are animals here on earth for? Not to look at cuz they are cute. They are here to be used (for lack of better word).
As far as the argument that if we fed the grain to the people...First of all, the grain they feed to the animals isn't people food quality - would not be consumed by humans. Consumers are very picky. Only a small percentage of agriculture products go into the food system. The majority are produced for industry and to feed livestock. Also, the grains that they feed to the animals are not usually produced using irrigation. Corn, soybeans, wheat, etc are up to good old mother nature for hydration. I am not a farmer but, I work in the finance end of the agriculture industry so have a slightly higher than normal exposure to all things Ag.
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I don't eat anything that had a heartbeat. I don't eat animals. I don't really care about the big circle of life/food chain.
When your daughter plays "House," she pretends to be an annoying doctor with a pill-addiction and a limp.
I don't either. And animals have other uses besides food - sheep produce wool, goats and cows produce milk. The skins can be used once the animals have died a natural death (which probably sounds naive).Originally Posted by VenusInFauxFurs
The problem with the agricultural argument is that even though we wouldn't eat the grain they feed animals, the land that's being cleared to produce crops to feed those animals could be used to produce more sustainable crops for human consumption, or better still, not cleared at all.
First, this is not a blast, however, your argument is seriously flawed. Agriculture has NOTHING to do with any self sustaining ecosystem stuff. There is absolutely nothing self sustaining about it. The majority of grain grown is for animals because it is grown specifically for animal feed. If people's eating habits were to shift, fewer livestock would be bred and more grain would be grown for people. The stuff doesn't just grow, people plant it. The animals don't just exist. They are in the numbers that they are because they are bred in those numbers. If the markets shift, agriculture would too. It isn't natural, it's human activity that drives it.
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Ya, that and the smell of it is pretty grotty to me. Raw meat to me stinks, cooking it not much better.
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A carefully cooked New York strip steak smells divine (to me).
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Bacon is what got me. I went meatless for a couple years after having a really gross dream about meat. But bacon...damn you bacon!
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God made Adam, Eve, and bacon.
You are correct - I was making 2 different (not necessarily related points). Agriculture is not part of the self-sustaining ecosystem. I would say however, that as long as the public demands meat, etc. it is better to produce meat for consumption than to kill off wild herds. You are absolutely correct that human activity drives it. I remember about 5 years ago when the Adkins craze was in - the grain farmers really were back peddaling and had some pretty miserable years. Protein and milk producers are always shifting and changing to meet public demands - organic, free range, no antibiotics, EPA guidelines, etc. One thing though, regardless of your views, It is very advantageous to live in a country that is able to produce most of its own food - what ever make up the public demands. To be at the mercy of another country for sustenance, is a very scary thing.
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And it was GOOD!
Amen.
She is such a useless shit stain on the panties of humanity~Bitter's awesome description of K.K
So endeth the reading of this Word.And it was GOOD!
Amen.
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Yessss LAWD, bacon!
Amen - everything is better with a little bit of bacon in/on it. Sometimes if it weren't for bacon (toast and blood oranges too) my son would go days without eating anything
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This blood type diet thing looks very stupid. It says type A should be vegetarian! Well, dont' hold your breath! I love meat. I live to eat meat. I want to eat any kind of meat it's legal to eat in the world (ok, not dogs or insects or really yucky stuff). I'm just curious. Kinda wish there was a way to eat human meat too without getting in trouble.
Hmmm, maybe that's why I'm fat...
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