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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    The guys have thuggish, greased-back ducktail hair styles. .
    Which means rapists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VenusInFauxFurs View Post
    Which means rapists.
    To hack ad writers, probably. I still remember the Calvin Klein tv campaign where a shirtless, bewildered kid wearing jeans was taking posing instructions from a gravelly voiced guy in some badly furnished basement -- basically implying pedo stuff. So, I do look at stuff like this with a jaundiced eye.

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    I can see the concern here. She doesn't look like she's enjoying herself...but then again, it is a Calvin Klein ad. This scene could easily be a rape or just a gangbang porn scene.


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    Clinical psychologist Alison Grundy, who works with victims of sexual assault, said that the use of sexual violence as a marketing tool was 'a dangerous new low'.

    'If we continue to subject future generations of young men to great barrages of aggressive, misogynist, over-sexualised and violent imagery in pornography, movies, computer games and advertising, we will continue to see the rates of sexual violence against women and children that continue unabated today,' she said.
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    This is my concern with images of this type.

    This brings me to a a question I've wanted to ask in this forum. As most of you are free-thinking and learned posters I feel I will get good honest answers....

    How do you really feel during the sexual scenes? It seems almost every movie or TV program has a sexual scene or alludes to sexual acts. I want a good story. Seeing someone naked and wallowing in bed (or wherever) or to hear sexually based jokes all the time is not entertainment for me. The real entertainment in sex is done in real time with a partner of my choice.
    They generally don't add anything to the story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    To hack ad writers, probably. I still remember the Calvin Klein tv campaign where a shirtless, bewildered kid wearing jeans was taking posing instructions from a gravelly voiced guy in some badly furnished basement -- basically implying pedo stuff. So, I do look at stuff like this with a jaundiced eye.
    I was gonna say you should be in advertising. As for the jaundiced eye, might wanna lay off the good shit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eboni View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Honey View Post

    Clinical psychologist Alison Grundy, who works with victims of sexual assault, said that the use of sexual violence as a marketing tool was 'a dangerous new low'.

    'If we continue to subject future generations of young men to great barrages of aggressive, misogynist, over-sexualised and violent imagery in pornography, movies, computer games and advertising, we will continue to see the rates of sexual violence against women and children that continue unabated today,' she said.
    This is my concern with images of this type.

    This brings me to a a question I've wanted to ask in this forum. As most of you are free-thinking and learned posters I feel I will get good honest answers....

    How do you really feel during the sexual scenes? It seems almost every movie or TV program has a sexual scene or alludes to sexual acts. I want a good story. Seeing someone naked and wallowing in bed (or wherever) or to hear sexually based jokes all the time is not entertainment for me. The real entertainment in sex is done in real time with a partner of my choice.
    I have the same concern. I don't try to automatically look for the worst or the most anti-feminist angles in ads, but really, I don't think there's any need to continue to normalize these kinds of images. (No, I don't think they should be "banned", I just think they do put something out there that I wouldn't want, for example, my son to see and take in on a regular basis.)

    I do think that rough sex can be good sex, can be consensual sex, but in still photographs like this - and even in a lot of video I've seen - there can be such a fine line between rough, "dirty" sex and rape, and I think there's something creepy about blurring together sex and violence in the mainstream. I don't believe images like these "lead" to rape, but I think if they were to form a significant part of the zeitgeist that they would and do have the power to shape boys', girls', men's, and women's expectations of sex, power, violence and gender.

    As to your question, eboni, I must say that I generally enjoy on-screen sex scenes. Admittedly, I don't watch a lot of primetime soapy stuff, so it's been a long time since I've seen shows like Melrose Place which had the ubiquitous, ultra-softcore, under-the-sheets scene in every episode - I agree that those can get old fast and don't really add much to the story. But cable sex like in True Blood, Dexter... yeah, I don't mind those at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eboni View Post
    How do you really feel during the sexual scenes? It seems almost every movie or TV program has a sexual scene or alludes to sexual acts. I want a good story. Seeing someone naked and wallowing in bed (or wherever) or to hear sexually based jokes all the time is not entertainment for me. The real entertainment in sex is done in real time with a partner of my choice.
    My feeling is, how can you not have sex scenees? There are at least 5 billion people on this planet, almost all of whom were produced by a sexual act. Consequently, having sex is an important part of human existence. I think that NOT having sex on screen (or implying it) is unnatural. Of course, I can understand the need to protect little kids from seeing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    To hack ad writers, probably. I still remember the Calvin Klein tv campaign where a shirtless, bewildered kid wearing jeans was taking posing instructions from a gravelly voiced guy in some badly furnished basement -- basically implying pedo stuff. So, I do look at stuff like this with a jaundiced eye.
    My god man, you do love the parade of horribles.

    The ad is stupid because all I think when I see it is WTF are they trying to sell here? And ew, shower the lot of them.
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