Signs in Brooklyn: ‘Precious Jewish Daughter: Move Aside For Men’

[Working Girl]

To add insult to injury (or vice versa), I think this is also the community where a huge number of families are on public welfare because of the number of kids they are having. So, basically, you have a bunch of people on your dime (if you are American) trying to rewrite your rules for you.

What a bigoted post! Do you also feel that way about other groups of people or is it just jews that you think are all on public welfare? Have you gone through all public records to see what type of people are on welfare and as you say living off of American dimes?

[MohandasKGanja]

What a bigoted post! Do you also feel that way about other groups of people or is it just jews that you think are all on public welfare? Have you gone through all public records to see what type of people are on welfare and as you say living off of American dimes?

To the extent that I'm bigoted at all, it's against people who have a zillion kids and expect other people to pay for them. I don't care whether they are Jewish, Mormon, Muslim, Christian, Zoroastrian, or Wiccan. Don't have a bunch of kids and expect everyone else to pay for them.

[witchcurlgirl]

Nothing bigoted in simple facts. Which are that a disproportionate part of the Hasidic population in NY receives public assistance, it's been reported numerous times by official city sources to be about 30%.

It's hard to pay to raise your 9 kids yourself when you spend all day studying religious matters and not working.

[sluce]

What a bigoted post! Do you also feel that way about other groups of people or is it just jews that you think are all on public welfare? Have you gone through all public records to see what type of people are on welfare and as you say living off of American dimes?

What a judgemental response! I'm sick of anyone being on welfare and living off my dime. I believe if you get assistance you should be required to do volunteer work in exchange for the benefits.

I have an aquaintance who gets welfare and even she says that if the government offered payouts to people in the system to report others in the system who are committing fraud ....

[Working Girl]

What a judgemental response! I'm sick of anyone being on welfare and living off my dime
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So you have counted all Hasidic jews and found your dime is paving for their welfare?

I have Hasidic friends 2 are doctors and one is a caterer. Never been on welfare in their lives!

[greysfang]

What a judgemental response! I'm sick of anyone being on welfare and living off my dime
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So you have counted all Hasidic jews and found your dime is paving for their welfare?

I have Hasidic friends 2 are doctors and one is a caterer. Never been on welfare in their lives!

So they are not part of the 30% that has been repeatedly reported in NY. Good for them.

[Working Girl]

Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja
I don't care whether they are Jewish, Mormon, Muslim, Christian, Zoroastrian, or Wiccan

But you didn't post that you posted

"To add insult to injury (or vice versa), I think this is also the community where a huge number of families are on public welfare because of the number of kids they are having."

So they are not part of the 30% that has been repeatedly reported in NY. Good for them.

So you believe everything written in the newspaper is fact? I sure don't.
What was reported could have had a lot of variables to it and could have
been written in a slanted way..

[greysfang]

So you believe everything written in the newspaper is fact? I sure don't.
What was reported could have had a lot of variables to it and could have
been written in a slanted way..

You're really reaching now. The numbers are public info put out by the government, the paper is just reporting them.

[MohandasKGanja]

Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja
I don't care whether they are Jewish, Mormon, Muslim, Christian, Zoroastrian, or Wiccan

But you didn't post that you posted

"To add insult to injury (or vice versa), I think this is also the community where a huge number of families are on public welfare because of the number of kids they are having."

That's because the story in this thread was about Hasidim in the Williamsburg area. If it were a story about Dearborn, MI or Colorado City, AZ, then I would have commented accordingly.

As the New York Times reported:

At least one-third of the estimated 7,000 Hasidic families in Williamsburg receive public assistance, according to neighborhood leaders.

And:

And they have large families: the average household has eight children, neighborhood leaders say. Hasidic parents commonly say that large families are the most satisfying realization of their religion, which tells them to be fruitful and multiply.

But their religious emphasis has created economic dead ends for many of the Hasidim of Southside. The focus on religious studies results in children ending secular education at age 13, curtailing job skills.

[Working Girl]

The numbers are public info put out by the government, the paper is just reporting them.

Times are hard right now for all different kinds of people and if the government is reporting them lets see the list so we can sit back and judge them all.

[greysfang]

The numbers are public info put out by the government, the paper is just reporting them.

Times are hard right now for all different kinds of people and if the government is reporting them lets see the list so we can sit back and judge them all.

I they wield excessive voting power without paying in, then go ahead. Let's name and shame.

[Working Girl]

I they wield excessive voting power without paying

So Hasidic jews on welfare should not be allowed to vote?

[MohandasKGanja]

The numbers are public info put out by the government, the paper is just reporting them.

Times are hard right now for all different kinds of people and if the government is reporting them lets see the list so we can sit back and judge them all.

The Williamsburg welfare statistics date all the way back to 1997, when the economy was at its peak and times were not hard for all different kinds of people.

So Hasidic jews on welfare should not be allowed to vote?

I would just be satisfied with them not trying to control the dress code and public conduct in a neighborhood that non-Hasidim are subsidizing substantially.

[greysfang]

I they wield excessive voting power without paying

So Hasidic jews on welfare should not be allowed to vote?

I said no such thing. You're just defending the indefensible and getting ridiculous with your "arguments".

[sluce]

The Hasidic Jews and all others on welfare should stop having kids they cannot afford. I don't care about their race or religion. Just stop having kids and expecting me to help pay for them. PERIOD.