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Old September 22nd, 2009, 09:10 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I refuse to watching ANYTHING by this fucking idiot.

Fuck him.
Same here. I read that he turned into a fundie in between seasons of Growing Pains and that he pressured the people in charge of the show to fire on of the chicks on the show because she posed for Playboy or something like that.

yep, it was Playboy, from the show's wiki page:

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After Cameron's religious conversion, his beliefs frequently interfered with production of the show. He insisted that no "adult themes" be incorporated into episodes, and he often demanded that entire episodes be re-written when he objected to the content (when one planned episode revolved around Julie giving Mike the key to her apartment, Cameron objected to the sexual connotations, and he forced a new script to be written). According to the Growing Pains episode of E! True Hollywood Story, Cameron at one point went so far as to call the President of ABC on the phone, and refer to executive producers Dan Guntzelman, Mike Sullivan and Steve Marshall as pornographers, due to the content of some of the episodes. In 1991, after the show's sixth season, the three men quit the show as a result of Cameron's actions and statements. Cameron's conflicts with the writers were frequent in part due to his low level of tolerance for "immoral" behavior. For example, according to the aforementioned E! True Hollywood Story episode, one scene which he objected to would have shown Mike in bed with a girl. The camera would then pull back to reveal that the two were on stage, rehearsing a scene for a play. Even this oblique reference to sexuality was too much for Cameron. The most significant instance of Cameron's editorial interference occurred in the 1989-1990 season which was supposed to involve Mike marrying his girlfriend Julie. However, Cameron objected to the fact that actress Julie McCullough, who played the popular character Julie Costello, had once posed nude for Playboy. Cameron demanded that the producers fire her or he would quit. McCullough was fired, and Julie was written out of the series as having left Mike at the altar.
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 09:13 PM   #17 (permalink)
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What a little prick.
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 09:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Someone please throw him in front of a bus
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Old September 22nd, 2009, 10:00 PM   #19 (permalink)
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I didn't realize he had so much pull back then ... I mean, it was Growing Pains. I forgot he existed.
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 01:01 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Did he run out of Left Behind movies?

He's such a dick.
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 04:19 AM   #21 (permalink)
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He altered a publication under copyright? Darwin's heirs should sue the pants off this ignorant prick.
If anything he's proof of the existence of the missing link.
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 06:47 AM   #22 (permalink)
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*bangs head against wall* WTF?! I have no tolerance for creationists. This will get funded screening, yet the Darwin film is too 'controversial'?!
This is the sort of shit that makes me fear for the future.
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Old September 23rd, 2009, 06:50 AM   #23 (permalink)
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Why are these knuckle-draggers even allowed out in society with the non-insane people.

I got a kick out of that girl's response on youtube.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 09:16 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Cool Kirk Cameron defends his views

Kirk Cameron Stands Behind Controversial Darwin Statements
By Oliver Jones

Originally posted Thursday September 24, 2009 04:00 PM EDT


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Photo by: Neilson Barnard / Getty


He's used to getting love letters and high-fives as a former teen heartthrob, but onetime Growing Pains actor Kirk Cameron isn't letting the mockery and criticism dissuade him from promoting his controversial project to dispute evolutionary theory.

"Atheism has been on the rise for years now, and the Bible of the atheists is The Origin of Species," Cameron tells PEOPLE. "We have a situation in our country where young people are entering college with a belief in God and exiting with that faith being stripped and shredded. What we want to do is have student make an informed, educated decision before they chuck their faith."

So what is the plan that Cameron, 38, has hatched to supposedly save the souls of freshmen around the country?

He and other creationists have created thousands of editions of Charles Darwin's landmark work explaining evolutionary theory, with a 50-page introduction that picks apart aspects of Darwin's work and try to link it to everything from Nazi eugenics to the scientist's alleged "disdain for women."


Distributing Books
On Nov. 19, three days before the 150th anniversary of the original publication of Origin of Species, Cameron and other religious activists will distribute their books at "the top 50" universities around the country.

An online video of Cameron describing his theory – and his controversial beliefs – has been circulated wildly across the Internet, where it has also inspired many many counterarguments and spoof videos.

But then, speaking out about his faith is nothing new for Cameron, who has been doing it since finding God 20 years ago during the height of his fame as wise-cracking Mike Seaver on the long-running ABC sitcom Growing Pains. Cameron has made a cottage industry out of starring in films that cater to evangelicals, such as the Left Behind series and Fireproof.

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But never has he ruffled so many feathers, especially among academics, as he has this week, slamming evolutionary theory as untrue, inherently un-Christian and the driving force behind some of the most horrendous catastrophes of the 20th century, including Adolf Hitler's plan to destroy "inferior races."

"You can see where [Hitler] clearly takes Darwin's ideas to some of their logical conclusions and compares certain races of people to lower evolutionary life forms," Cameron says. "If you take Darwin's theory and extend it to its logical end, it can be used to justify all number of very horrendous things."

But academics dismiss such arguments as ludicrous.

"This has been refuted many, many times. The anti-evolutionist fearmongers have to link Darwin to every perceived evil from mankind," says Kevin Padian, professor of paleontology and evolutionary biology at the University of California, Berkeley. "The two kinds people who believe that religion and evolution can not coexist are extreme atheists and extreme religious fundamentalists. Everyone else doesn't really have a problem. [A majority] of Americans believe that a belief in god is compatible with evolution."

Willing Target
Cameron, who lives outside of Los Angeles with his wife of 20 years, Chelsea Noble, and their six children, realizes that he is making himself a target by being so outspoken, but is willing to do so for a cause that he believes so strongly in.

"I am proud to bring this to people's attention," he says. "You see things in the world that are truly distressing and you think, 'What can I do?' Well this is something I can do."

And if his own kids ended up believing in evolution? "Could I accept it? Yeah sure," he says. "I accepted a lot of things that are not true before I was able to sit down and listen to more then one side and think things through the issues. I would sit them down and tell them that I was happy that they were thinking about this stuff, now let's look at all of the information and see if we don't come to a better conclusion. If after that, they still come to the same conclusion, so be it."

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Old September 24th, 2009, 09:20 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Like wow, I'll have what he's having. Sounds like a fun trip to be on! La la land! I thought it was just a fantasy all this time.
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I want retard to comment on his banana/god stupidity. Srsly. I want him to respond to the hilarious rebuttal.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 09:35 PM   #27 (permalink)
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"Atheism has been on the rise for years now"
And Kirk has been giving Christianity such a good name with his dickish moves.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 09:37 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I got a kick out of that girl's response on youtube.
me, too. i thought she was great!
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Old September 24th, 2009, 09:50 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I want retard to comment on his banana/god stupidity. Srsly. I want him to respond to the hilarious rebuttal.
I see your banana video stupidity and raise you peanut butter (minus Kirk Cameron):
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ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.
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Old September 24th, 2009, 10:03 PM   #30 (permalink)
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OMFG! That has to be the craziest thing I've seen today. I had toast with peanut butter on it for breakfast this morning. Therefore, I clearly can't believe in evolution. AACK!
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