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Thread: Editorial: Rome's latest witchhunt won't end with gays

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    I've pondered that myself through the years, especially when I'm trying to justify not getting my lazy ass up to church. The conclusion I came up with is, human corruption & desire to dominate aside, churches (in the purest sense) offer guidance, support and the opportunity to learn. Back in the day, people other than Fantasia couldn't read, so someone had to read & 'splain things to them. The basic concept is a good one.

    Plus, I've also learned that rituals and environment can serve to help you focus on what you're doing, whether it's worship or whatever. That's why some people do better working out at the gym, vs using their dusty equipment at home. That's why I never get diddly squat done when I'm "working" at home. For many people, a church or synagogue or mosque or shrine at home or whatever helps to "get your mind right" & focus.
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    I just don't get it...and I'm happily Catholic. I personally, don't give a rats ass is my priest is gay or straight (or a woman for that matter, but that's another discussion)...but to go into seminaries and make some sort of judgement as to whether a celibate priests sexual desires are acceptable or not? Rediculous! Foolhearty! WRONG!

    I'm interested to see what the Dominican monks who run my church have to say about the matter. I think that this is a damnable offense if the church follows through with this plan, and for the sake of all of us, I hope that there is some divine intervention to ensure that the men who have dedicated their lives to God, gay or not, are shown the respect they deserve.

    If they are interested in addressing the abuse allogations, THEN ADDRESS THEM!! Tighten up the psychological evaluations required to enter the seminary, change church practices regarding children and children's religious education...something, but going after homosexuals is just absurd.

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    Well said, cloud.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobelia View Post
    I've pondered that myself through the years, especially when I'm trying to justify not getting my lazy ass up to church. The conclusion I came up with is, human corruption & desire to dominate aside, churches (in the purest sense) offer guidance, support and the opportunity to learn. Back in the day, people other than Fantasia couldn't read, so someone had to read & 'splain things to them. The basic concept is a good one.

    Plus, I've also learned that rituals and environment can serve to help you focus on what you're doing, whether it's worship or whatever. That's why some people do better working out at the gym, vs using their dusty equipment at home. That's why I never get diddly squat done when I'm "working" at home. For many people, a church or synagogue or mosque or shrine at home or whatever helps to "get your mind right" & focus.
    We think a lot alike about this Lobelia. This post is exactly how I feel. I don't go to church, but those are some of the reasons I think church can be beneficial for some peoples' spirituality. When I did go to church and was trying to get my husband to go, I was trying to get him to see the reasons you stated.

    By now I've just given up on the whole thing for awhile, and I keep my spirituality at home. My mom has beaten so much guilt into me for turning my back on Catholicism, that I don't have the desire to go to any church. Methodist showed some promise for me for awhile, I even got married in a Methodist Church, and mom said my marriage was, sadly, not valid in the eyes of god.

    But, I digress....

    Emcee mentioned Buddist monks/nuns. Aren't they somewhat secluded from 'normal' life? It seems that their high level of spirituality would be easier to obtain if not emmersed/surrounded by the rest of society.
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    It never used to be church doctrine. That is something the church thought up later. They wanted all the money priests received to be left to the church, not their wives.
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