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    So what is it about this crazy space cult and it's deranged founder that sucks in so many naive and impressionable egomaniacs?? Here's an interesting history of the founding of Sci, as L Ron sets up the Space Academy by stealing money from Jack Parson (Jet Propulsion Laboratory - that Parsons), and ideas from anyone who had them (he didn't have many of his own, despite his claims to have cornered the market on genius) - especially Aleistar Crowley.

    Preface

    This article is the first in a series of articles based upon research into the roots of the Hubbardian philosophy that gave birth to the "Sacred Scriptures" of the Church of Scientology

    The Office of Special Affairs, the elite Secret Intelligence unit of the Church of Scientology, was well aware that this report was reaching its final stage and in the recent months they have launched lawsuits and a massive propaganda campaign to discredit FACTNET Director, Lawrence Wollersheim and the researcher, Jon Atack

    Scientology is using many Hollywood celebrities to promote its agenda. But most Scientologists, celebrity and non-celebrity alike; as well as the general public, are ignorant of the Satanic/Black Magic background of its Founder, L. Ron Hubbard, and how he used these materials to form the core of his secret "Sacred Scriptures"

    The ransacking of the FACTNET files and data base by the OSA Raid Team was not unexpected and the timing of the raid, not surprisingly, corresponded to the scheduled release date of this material. FACTNET Co-Director Arnie Lerma's computers and personal files were also ransacked by OSA raiders.

    FACTNET hopes these series of articles will create meaningful dialogue and that all readers will give this report, and future reports, the widest distribution on the Internet and other areas of Cyberspace, and amongst the general public.

    full article - Hubbard and the Occult
    Incidentally Cruise has given the Germans the heebeegeebees - one commentator said that Cruise recalled the manner of Goebbels. Link - Scientology and the Occult


    More on the occult connections -

    Christianity and Scientology - A Comparison. Links and information regarding the Church of Scientology and it's alleged compatibility to Christianity
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    Jack Parson (Jet Propulsion Laboratory - that Parsons)
    Scientology and the Occult

    "The magical cults of the 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th and 12th centuries in the Middle East were fascinating. The only modern work that has anything to do with them is a trifle wild in spots, but is a fascinating work in itself, and that's the work of Aleister Crowley - the late Aleister Crowley - my very good friend." Hubbard, Philadelphia Doctorate Course, Lecture 18, "Conditions of Space-Time-Energy."
    In 1950, L Ron Hubbard wrote the book "Dianetics, the Modern Science of Mental Health." In 1952, the term "Scientology" was introduced. Corporate status was received by Scientology in 1954 in California. Since that time, "Scientology" has been repeatedly questioned for it's bogus claims of medical healing and unexplained deaths.
    Dianetics and Scientology founder L Ron Hubbard's personal references as a "war hero," or "nuclear physicist," are just a few of Scientology's false claims to recruit the unknowing.
    Scientology didn't begin "acting" like, or operating as a "church" until 1969, when they were engaged in litigation with the FDA. Hubbard began issuing policies to members such as in Hubbard Communication Policy Letter of 12 February 1969:
    "All Orgs are now Churches; Stationary is to reflect fact that orgs are churches; All public literature must state that Scn is religious." It also states, "This may or may not be publically acceptable. This is NOT the point. It is a requisite defense." Hubbard Organization Executive Course,
    (1969 version) Volume 6, Page 119
    Members carried "crossed out crosses" into their establishments and were told to wear ministerial collars. "Alternative mental health and medicine" was now "healing." L Ron Hubbard avoided the exposure of the fraudulent medical practices of "Scientology" by becoming a so-called "church."
    Many of the methods and ideology that Hubbard used in Scientology are taken from other sources. The mixture of using different teachings has long been associated to include the occult, since it is a known fact that L Ron Hubbard was familiar with the writings of "black magician," Aleister Crowley's work since Hubbard was a teen.
    Crowley, a self-declared "beast" and "anti-Christ," once headed the British "Ordo Templi Orientis," (OTO) branch, and established those teachings in the United States in 1916, during World War I in Europe. Crowley's OTO teachings of magick included the Golden Dawn and that of Thelemic Law.
    Influences of Aleister Crowley are found in Scientology "technology," or teaching materials - including L Ron Hubbard's own admission that he was the "anti-Christ." Aleister Crowley died in 1947. But in 1969, the same year that Scientology donned the crosses and minister's garb, was the same time that the "Thoth Tarot Card Deck" was published and sold, (a product produced years before, by Aleister Crowley with artist Lady Frieda Harris, (deceased in 1962.) This was the same year that L Ron Hubbard directed members to bring in the crossed out cross and wear minister's clothing.
    Another well known fact of L Ron Hubbard's association with Aleister Crowley and the teachings of magick was his relationship with John Whiteside Parsons. In 1941, Parsons joined the California-based Agape lodge of Aleister Crowley's Ordo Templi Orientis, (OTO.)

    "He, (emphasis-Parsons) considered that Ron had great magical potential and took the risk of breaking his solemn oath of secrecy to acquaint Ron with some of the O.T.O. rituals.... Nevertheless, Parsons clearly remained convinced that Ron possessed exceptional powers....Parsons wrote to his 'Most Beloved Father' (emphasis - his term for Aleister Crowley) to acquaint him with events: 'About three months ago I met Captain L. Ron Hubbard.... Although he has no formal training in Magick, he has an extraordinary amount of experience and understanding in the field. From some of his experiences I deduced that he is in direct touch with some higher intelligence, possibly his Guardian Angel. He describes his Angel as a beautiful winged woman with red hair whom he calls the Empress and who has guided him through his life and saved him many times. He is the most Thelemic person I have ever met and is in complete accord with our own principles." From the book: Bare-Faced Messiah:
    the True Story of L. Ron Hubbard, 1987, Chapter 7, "Black Magic and Betty" pp. 117-118
    Author: Russell Miller
    Scientology and the Occult

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    Oh lawd, how'd I miss this thread *evil grin*

    On the good side, their numbers seem to be declining...fast


    Google these: Fair Game, Disconnection Policy, RPF, Sea Org, Lisa McPherson, Operation Snow white, Paulettte Cooper, Freewinds asbestos, david miscavige beatings.

    Here are a few more websites that have numerous, heartwrenching, and infuriating stories about this "church"
    Ex-Scientology Kids ^Some of the stories here are truly horrific.
    Ex Scientologist Message Board - Powered by vBulletin
    Why We Protest <- this one is "anonymous'" board, while they may seem crude at times, there is a wealth of information there.
    Scientology associated deaths
    Operation Clambake - The Inner Secrets Of Scientology
    x.sea.org - Â*Â*Â*Â* Musical Chairs - Int Base Style <- this site/story highlights how the terror midget (david miscavige) treats his staff.
    Counterfeit Dreams: Chapter One: Going Home ^ This blog is run by the terror midgets former "right hand man" and details how he was abused physically, emotionally, and mentally.

    Also if you search Scientology at Wikileaks - Wikileaks
    you can download their 'Supar sekrit" courses, that they charge $360 grand for.

    Just a note, anonymous' "main" website (forums.whyweprotest.com) is down either because of some butthurt mofo's or clams. I don't know.

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    David Miscavige is up to something again -

    Scientology Takes Off Kid Gloves Against Ex-Sciento Guy - mediabistro.com: FishbowlLA


    Scientology Takes Off Kid Gloves Against Ex-Sciento Guy
    Taking off the kid gloves, Scientology lawyers put as much pressure as a quasi-church can create on a Florida judge to attempt to quash a $265 million lawsuit brought by ex-Scientologist Peter Letterese that names the church and film star Tom Cruise as complicit.

    The Church, repped by attorney Allen Perlman and federal bankruptcy trustee attorney John Genovese, started by trying on Wednesday to appeal to federal Judge John K. Olson to strip Letterese of his longtime attorney, Charles Franken.

    In his ruling on Scientology's brief, Judge Olson claimed that Franken's presence in the case would hurt Letterese's company and should therefore be dismissed. Letterese contends that Judge Olson did not allege that any law nor any professional codes of ethics had been broken by Franken.

    Though Letterese has contended that Cruise is running the church's interest alongside Church leader David Miscavige, he cites documents that Scientology distributed that apparently did not deny Letterese's contention. Letterese takes that as proof positive that Cruise is in charge of the worldwide operation.

    Scientology reps could not be reached to comment on Letterese's assertions.


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    KevinOwen 7 hours ago
    "Cruise is in charge of the worldwide operation."

    Tom cruise is public and not a church staff member. He is a respected member of Scientology but doesn't have anything to do with the every day decision making or running of it.

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    randomx 7 hours ago
    Nor do you Kevin.
    Now let me just press you a little on this.
    If you are so certain that Tom
    Cruise doesn`t have a stake in scientology it must be because you
    know for certain who does.
    Please enlighten us.......
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    KevinOwen 5 hours ago
    "Nor do you Kevin."

    Correct, as I am public as well.

    "If you are so certain that Tom Cruise doesn`t have a stake in scientology it must be because you know for certain who does"

    Each Church is run like a separate business. Monies made each week are tallied, all expenses are deducted and if there is anything left it is divided up amongst staff members of that church. Some get more than others depending on how long they have been on staff, their experience etc. Every church follows the same method of distribution as layed out in the administration technology developed by L.Ron.Hubbard.

    There are other organizations that handle L.Ron Hubbard books etc but they to are run as separate organizations and all monies goes into running them and expansion. I know it all sounds boring and there is no drama or secret stories in it all but thats how it is.
    Sorry mate there is no-one at the top creaming it all.

    7 Division Organizing Board

    http://www.rehabilitatenz.co.nz/pages/organizin...

    The true Story Of Scientology

    http://www.rehabilitatenz.co.nz/pages/true-stor...

    The true story of Scientology® is simple, concise and direct. It is quickly told:

    1. A philosopher develops a philosophy about life and death.
    2. People find it interesting.
    3. People find it works.
    4. People pass it along to others.
    5. It grows.

    When we examine this extremely accurate and very brief account, we see that there must he in our civilization some very disturbing elements for anything else to he believed about Scientology®.
    These disturbing elements are the Merchants of Chaos. They deal in confusion and upset. Their daily bread is made by creating chaos. If chaos were to lessen, so would their incomes.
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    Anonymous1224 35 minutes ago
    "Each Church is run like a separate business"

    Doesn't it bother you in the slightest that a "church" is operating as a "business?" That in order to participate in church services, you are required to pay? Answer honestly, if a Scientologist can't pay and can't work at the org for some reason, be it injury, illness, whatever...would that person be allowed to participate in auditing and move up the bridge?

    Why do staff members work so hard and regular scientologists pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to go up the bridge, but celebrities don't and then are called the most dedicated scientologists? Why do celebrities zoom up the bridge to high OT levels in just a few years, but regular dedicated and hard working Scientologists are stuck for decades? Why do regular Scientologists have to repeat Clear or OT levels they have already reached, paying thousands of dollars for courses to reach a status the church already said they had achieved?

    Why do no clears have a perfect memory? Why do OTs get sick? Why can't OTs stop the protesters and negative publicity? Why do they say the CoS is the fastest growing religion, but the number of scientologists they tell you is the same number as decades ago? Why do they tell you Xenu and the space aliens don't exist, but sue for copyright infringement when someone publishes the OT3 story complete with aliens and Xenu? If it wasn't part of OT3 and just some fantasy, why does the CoS have the copyright? Why do you keep writing Scientology as if the name itself is a registered trademark of a company or brand? Is Islam a trademark? Is Mormanism? Is Hinduism? Why does Scientology belong to the weathy and not the people? If Scientology is the only way to save the planet, why is it so expensive and so exclusive? Why isn't it free and open to everyone?

    Why can David Miscavage change L. Ron Hubbard's tech and his published works? Why does the IAS push so hard for donations that don't stop the protests or the negative publicity? Why are there more ex-Scientologists than current Scientologists? Why have most of Australia's high level OTs blown in the past two months?

    Why have you gone on and on about the philosphy of Scientology, but failed to address any of the harassment, intimidation, and illegal activies the CoS has taken against Letterese that caused him to file the lawsuit?

    There are places to wonder about these questions without having to identify yourself at all. Places where others with similar experiences and similar questions have gathered.

    Ex Scientologist Message Board - Powered by vBulletin

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    randomx 3 hours ago
    All very interesting.
    However you have confirmed that you don`t know who owns your "church"
    So here it is....

    http://www.sc-i-r-s-ology.pair.com/veritas/inde...

    And the court ruling based on the articles of incorporation.

    Operation Clambake Present: Scientology Court Files

    Print off these pages and ask your church leaders for a written statement that they are false. Post that statement here or GTFO
    Some more recent Sci links -

    URMAblog: Inside Scientology

    Living Oprah: Will Oprah Rock?

    Scientology Today: Scientology Concert In UK, Hosted by Kelly Preston, Raises &#163;50,000 for Charity

    The Bloody UnDead.: Scientology: Myth? Madness? or maybe.....??

    Portland's Church of Scientology Moves to Temporary Quarters
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    Why have most of Australia's high level OTs blown in the past two months?
    What does that mean, "blown"? Left the 'church'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasha View Post
    What does that mean, "blown"? Left the 'church'?
    Yup. "Blow/Blown" is clam speak for leaving the church/left the church.

    The terror midget is stomping his tiny wittle feet again to get what wittle davy wants. Seriously the guys like 5'2", shorter than the GMD (tommy boy). Former members have said numerous times that he hates having his height mentioned. FUCKING DWARF!!!!!


    Sorry couldn't resist. I have no problem with short people(I'm only 5'2"), but when they have a total little man/Napoleon complex, all bets are off.

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    Ian Undercover has infiltrated the 'church', and plans to release a documentary -


    http://www.CelebrityVideoTube.com » Blog Archive » Controversial Documentary Infiltrating Hollywood and Scientology Released by Bestselling Author/Filmmaker


    Big News Network.com Ian Halperin's latest film 'His Highness Hollywood' infiltrates the world of Hollywood and The Church of Scientology by having Halperin pose undercover as a gay actor.
    I heard him interviewed on 1010 AM Toronto about it - in conversation with john Moore. He gained entrance into the church by claiming he had a rich uncle who was looking for a tax shelter. They reassured him that faith wasn't an issue - just bring cash! They also assured him that they could 'cure gay'.

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    I call death pool on this poor guy.
    Although now with the amount of media attention the Co$ is getting, any death or injury will be a shitstorm for the Co$. But if it was as little as 5 years ago, this guy would probably end up dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by L1049 View Post
    I call death pool on this poor guy.
    Although now with the amount of media attention the Co$ is getting, any death or injury will be a shitstorm for the Co$. But if it was as little as 5 years ago, this guy would probably end up dead.
    An anti-Scientology dude died of an "apparent suicide" down in Clearwater just this year in the midst of the shitstorm.

    Scourge of Scientology dies in apparent suicide

    He seemed to abandon the fight in the last year.
    By Jonathan Abel and Robert Farley, Times Staff Writers
    Published February 19, 2008

    Shawn Lonsdale documents people in downtown Clearwater while filming as part of his "cult watch." From hours and hours of footage of Scientology buildings, staff, security guards and verbal confrontations, he made a film that aired on local cable television.
    [Douglas R. Clifford | Times (2006)]
    CLEARWATER - Shawn Lonsdale, whose one-man crusade against Scientology made him a public enemy of the church, was found dead at his home over the weekend in an apparent suicide. He was 39.
    Police discovered Lonsdale's body at 12:20 p.m. Saturday after neighbors reported a foul odor. They found a garden hose stretched from the exhaust pipe of Lonsdale's car into a window of his home at 510 N Lincoln Ave., according to Clearwater police spokeswoman Elizabeth Daly-Watts.
    Daly-Watts said there were no signs of foul play, and police found what appeared to be a suicide note. It was not immediately available.
    The medical examiner's office said the official cause of death is pending toxicology reports.
    It was a lonely end for a man who emerged out of nowhere in 2006 as a thorn in the side of the Church of Scientology.
    For a few months in mid to late 2006, Lonsdale stood alone in downtown Clearwater beside a sandwich board that read "Cult Watch" in the heart of Scientology's religious headquarters.
    Videocamera in hand, he taped hours and hours of footage: Scientology buildings, church staffers walking the streets, security guards watching his movements and verbal confrontations with Scientologists. He then edited them into a "pseudo-documentary" about Scientology that eventually aired on local cable television.
    Lonsdale, who was never a Scientologist, was an odd nemesis. He had no connection to the church before arguing with a Scientologist over redevelopment issues at a Clearwater City Council meeting.
    But the self-described loner stepped into his new role with enthusiasm. At night, he dropped fliers on the doorsteps of downtown businesses. On his lunch break, he parked his car across the street from the church's cafeteria with posters in his window that claimed people could find free versions of secret church texts on the Internet. He even picked church-related documents from piles of trash in front of a Scientology-owned business and posted some of the documents online.
    The Church of Scientology and some its members fought back. They hired a private investigator to look into Lonsdale's background and found two misdemeanor convictions for lewd and lascivious conduct, both related to public sex with men, in 1999 and 2000.
    They called Lonsdale's employer at a title company and his landlord and said that Lonsdale was a religious bigot, possibly dangerous.
    In the fall of 2006, the church subpoenaed Lonsdale for a deposition, contending he was an agent of an anti-Scientology group that was legally barred from protesting in certain places downtown. Attorney Luke Lirot, who has battled Scientology in the past, came to Lonsdale's aid.
    "I found him to be quite affable and truly a very intelligent man," Lirot said in an interview Monday. "I certainly hope that a very thorough investigation is conducted."
    In the last year, though, the confrontation between Lonsdale and the Church of Scientology seemed to have run its course.
    Lonsdale let his anti-Scientology Web site lapse. He posted less and less on anti-Scientology blogs. Church spokeswoman Pat Harney said it had been months since the church heard from Lonsdale.
    Randy Payne, a former Scientologist, said Lonsdale found it impossible to be a full-time church critic and make a living.
    Payne said that he last spoke to Lonsdale two months ago, and that Lonsdale had found steady work on the night shift at a local company, stocking shelves. He talked about going back to school and getting a private investigator's license.
    "He was getting on with his life," Payne said. "He had every reason to live."
    Landlord Joe Critchley said Lonsdale was an ideal tenant: He paid the $650 rent on time every month and he kept the place clean. The last time they talked, Feb. 1 or Feb. 2, Lonsdale seemed fine. "He would be one of the last people I would expect to commit suicide," Critchley said. "But you never know."
    Researcher Shirl Kennedy contributed to this report. Jonathan Abel can be reached at jabel@sptimes.com or (727) 445-4157.
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    Northpinellas: Scourge of Scientology dies in apparent suicide

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    Another Sci related fatality

    A Scientology Celebrity Centre security guard shot and killed a sword-wielding man in the parking lot - 11/23/08 - Los Angeles-Southern California-LA Breaking News, Weather, Traffic, Sports - abc7.com

    Scientology security kills man w/ sword
    Sunday, November 23, 2008

    LOS ANGELES -- Los Angeles police say a security guard at a Scientology building has shot and killed a sword-wielding man.

    Officer April Harding said the man approached the guard in the parking lot of the Scientology Celebrity Centre International around noon Sunday. Harding said the guard "felt threatened for his life" and fired at the unidentified man. He was pronounced dead at a hospital.

    Homicide detectives have cordoned off the building in Hollywood to investigate.

    A Scientology spokesperson could not be immediately reached for comment.
    More -

    Man shot, killed at Scientology building in LA

    Scientology security kills man said to have wielded a sword

    a previous relationship with Scientology on the part of the victim has been confirmed -

    Scientology Building Security Guard Shot And Killed Man Wielding Two Samurai Swords
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    SOMEHOW this'll be blamed on Anonymous.

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    Scientology is becoming a magnet for trouble, but it's not all bad news: Germany has stopped it's attempts to ban the cult, claiming insufficient evidence, and Tom Cruise's "healer" Feline Kondula Butcher has been found not guilty on her charges. If you'll recall she got into a bit of trouble when she told a cancer patient to abandon his treatment in favour of some alternative therapy, and the man died.

    https://www.amazines.com/article_det...ticleid=680072

    Feline Kondula Butcher, Nutritional Consultant Found Not Guilty on All Counts November 16, 2008 Los Angeles--Feline Butcher, the celebrated nutritional consultant to the stars has been cleared of any accusations of wrong-doing or malpractice as expected after a three week trial in a Los Angeles Court.
    Ms. Butcher who is most known for nutritional consulting was accused of fraud and malpractice by the widow of the photographer to Larry Flynt. The photographer who worked for the nation's most well known pornographic publication came to Ms. Butcher after doctors told him that there was little to no hope of recovery or survival from his terminal cancer. Ms. Butcher agreed to see the client who was very ill promising no cure, only suggestions in diet and nutrition to help boost his immune system. After his death and with the help of long time friend Larry Flynt, the grieving widow of the photographer contacted the press and the local District Attorney's office filing false accusations against Ms. Butcher of wrong doing. It is of utmost importance for any healthcare consultant to carefully screen all patients before agreeing to treat them, especially professionals in the alternative and natural medicine fields. The general public tends to view natural medicine practitioners as miracle workers while in fact, reputable practitioners take a very cautious and pragmatic approach to health though proper nutrition, supplementation and cooperation with traditional medical practitioners. The healthcare consultant must be very diligent in managing unrealistic expectations of a client who has sought their council in dire times. Ms. Butcher's standard approach with every patient, meaning, no processed foods, only those grown organically, exercise, rest, the reduction of stress to help prevent disease and the testing of blood and stool samples to determine supplemental needs.

    Ms. Butcher has consulted tens of thousands of individuals across the United States over the years that have done nothing but praise her and appreciate her dedication and earnestness for her logical approach to health. This is the first time in 23 years that Ms. Butcher's credibility has come into question and has been rightly rectified after a long, exhaustive, investigation and trial.

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    It's official. The victim, dubbed 'Epic Sword Guy' by Anon, was an ex-clam:
    Man killed at Hollywood Scientology center had made prior threats, police say -- Newsday.com

    And here's his Co$ completions:
    Mario Majorski - Scientology Service Completions | Truth About Scientology Statistics Project


    I'll post this in the thread in the News section too.

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    Turns out that the fellow was involved back in the mid 90's. As a UCLA student he even helped harass a prof - Louis West - who was outspoken against the cult. West - an expert on brainwashing - described Sci as a "pyramid scheme". Majorski played attack dog for Sci, and hauled West into federal court with a number of nuisance suits. The reward for Majorski's loyalty is that somewhere along the line he lost his money and his mind. Naturally he became bitter about it. The auditing didn't work out, but Sci has a 'no refund' policy.

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    Link:

    The tragic love story of Theresa Duncan and Jeremy Blake, the filmmaker and artist who mysteriously killed themselves last year (believing they were being harassed by Scientologists and the government), is headed to the big screen. American Psycho author Bret Easton Ellis will be writing the screenplay and director Gus Van Sant has signed on as a consultant for the movie, which is being produced by Braxton Pope and Andrew Weiner of Ithaka films along with Lionsgate. Ithaka bought the rights to Nancy Jo Sales' Vanity Fair article about the doomed duo, who have become cult figures since Theresa overdosed on Tylenol PM and bourbon last year and Jeremy followed by walking into the ocean. "The story is remarkable and explores profound loss and the tragic dimensions of love,'' says Braxton.
    Jeremy Blake created the cover art for Becks album "Sea Change".

    Here is the Vanity Fair article: The Golden Suicides

    Theresa's blog The Wit of the Staircase


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