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Old May 9th, 2007, 09:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down Pope shakes his gnarled fist at pro-choice politicians

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ABOARD THE PAPAL PLANE (Reuters) - Pope Benedict on Wednesday warned Catholic politicians they risked excommunication from the Church and should not receive communion if they support abortion.

It was the first time that the Pope, speaking to reporters aboard the plane taking him on a trip to Brazil, dealt in depth with a controversial topic that has come up in many countries, including the United States, Mexico, and Italy.

The Pope was asked whether he supported Mexican Church leaders threatening to excommunicate leftist parliamentarians who last month voted to legalize abortion in Mexico City.

"Yes, this excommunication was not an arbitrary one but is allowed by Canon (church) law which says that the killing of an innocent child is incompatible with receiving communion, which is receiving the body of Christ," he said.

"They (Mexican Church leaders) did nothing new, surprising or arbitrary. They simply announced publicly what is contained in the law of the Church... which expresses our appreciation for life and that human individuality, human personality is present from the first moment (of life)".

Under Church law, someone who knowingly does or backs something which the Church considers a grave sin, such as abortion, inflicts what is known as "automatic excommunication" on themselves.

The Pope said parliamentarians who vote in favor of abortion have "doubts about the value of life and the beauty of life and even a doubt about the future".

"Selfishness and fear are at the root of (pro-abortion) legislation," he said. "We in the Church have a great struggle to defend life...life is a gift not a threat."

The Pope's comments appear to raise the stakes in the debate over whether Catholic politicians can support abortion or gay marriage and still consider themselves proper Catholics.

In recent months, the Vatican has been accused of interference in Italy for telling Catholic lawmakers to oppose a draft law that would grant some rights to unwed and gay couples.

During the 2004 presidential election, the U.S. Catholic community was split over whether to support Democratic candidate John Kerry, himself a Catholic who backed abortion rights.

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Some Catholics say they personally would not have an abortion but feel obliged to support a woman's right to choose.

But the Church, which teaches that life begins at the moment of conception and that abortion is murder, says Catholics cannot have it both ways.

"The Church says life is beautiful, it is not something to doubt but it is a gift even when it is lived in difficult circumstances. It is always a gift," the Pope said.

Only Cuba, Guyana and U.S. commonwealth Puerto Rico allow abortion on demand in Latin America. Many other countries in the region permit it in special cases, such as if the fetus has defects or if the mother's life is at risk.

Brazil, the world's most populous Catholic country, is mulling bringing the debate to a referendum.

Pope warns Catholic politicians who back abortion | International | Reuters
Ahh the hypocrisy continues unabated...

Fighting against poverty while living in luxury..

Railing against contraception and abortion to those who are mired in poverty and cannot afford children..

Raging against gay marriage while never having been married at all, and ignoring the 53% divorce rate of straight couples...

On and on it goes.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 09:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Why threaten excommunication, why not just do it? Oh, yeah, you can't receive communion, but they'll still take your money.......God loves your money..........
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Old May 9th, 2007, 09:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Well someone has to keep Die PopenFührer in Prada pumps.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 09:55 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yep, life is sacred and life is beautiful, but if you are a woman living in the slums with the children you already have starving.....I bet you don't see it so much as a gift.....especially with another soon-to-be-starving child on the way.....

If there was a God, he would be skywriting "Ignore the old man behind the curtain.....in the fancy shoes"
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Old May 9th, 2007, 09:58 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If you are talking about the red loafers, I read they concluded his shoes were made by his own cobbler and not Prada.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 10:09 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Not according to everything i've rea.. he also fired the Papal vestment makers (been ont he job since the 1700's) for a new, snazzier tailor from some chichi boutique.
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Oh okay. How crazy.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 10:23 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Ahh the hypocrisy continues unabated...

Fighting against poverty while living in luxury..

Railing against contraception and abortion to those who are mired in poverty and cannot afford children..

Raging against gay marriage while never having been married at all, and ignoring the 53% divorce rate of straight couples...

On and on it goes.
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Old May 9th, 2007, 05:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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from my friend and I:

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Old May 9th, 2007, 05:29 PM   #10 (permalink)
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a red x?
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Old May 9th, 2007, 05:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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^^^ aww give a homey a minute, man! lol!
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Old May 9th, 2007, 05:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Ok that was worth it

LOLOL @ teh popez0r
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Old May 9th, 2007, 05:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
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my friend is starting a series of these, and she's a lesbian who's catholic. So's her girlfriend.

gPapi is just being devisive and bitchy like a girl...
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Old May 9th, 2007, 05:50 PM   #14 (permalink)
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yer just jealous he has a prettier sundress.
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