Biblically Correct Tours

**twitchy** · February 24th, 2006, 11:06 AM

Group challenges science on 'biblically correct' tours

Rusty Carter, a guide for Biblically Correct Tours, talks to students during a tour at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder. Carter has led such tours since 1988.

By Catherine Tsai, Associated Press
February 18, 2006
BOULDER - Inside the flagship lab of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, a dozen home-schooled children and their parents walk past the offices of scientists grappling with topics from global warming and microphysics to solar storms and the electrical fields of lightning. They are trailing Rusty Carter, a guide with Biblically Correct Tours.
At a large, colorful panel along a wall, Carter reads aloud from a passage describing the disappearance of dinosaurs from the Earth about 65 million years ago. He and some of the older students exchange knowing smiles at the timeline, which contradicts their interpretation of the Bible suggesting a 6,000-year-old planet.
"Did man and dinosaurs live together?" Carter asks.
A timid yes comes from the students.
"How do we know that to be true?" Carter says.
There's a long pause.
"What day did God create dinosaurs on?" he continues.
"Six," says a chorus of voices.
"What day did God create man on?"
"Six."
"Did man and dinosaurs live together?"
"Yes," the students say.
Mission accomplished for Carter, who has been leading such tours since 1988. He and the other guides counter secular interpretations of history, nature and the origin of life with their own literal reading of the Bible.
And they do so right at the point where they feel they feel science indoctrinates young people - museums.
"Museums are the secular temples of our day," founder Bill Jack said. "If you watch people walk in, especially in (Denver's) Museum of Nature & Science, they fold their hands reverently, they speak in hushed tones, they don't let kids touch.
"The kid says, 'What's this?' Dad reads the sign, and they say, 'Ooh, ahh.' They worship the creature rather than the creator."
About 100 groups book tours each year with the Colorado-based group, paying at least $100 minimum, or $5 per person. Popular stops include the atmospheric research lab, zoos and the Denver museum.
The group isn't unique: The 7 Wonders Museum at the Mount St. Helens volcano in Washington state says it is dedicated to "creation science studies," while the Kentucky ministry, Answers in Genesis, is planning a $25 million Creation Museum in the Cincinnati area.
Museums around the country, meanwhile, have been adding training and workshops for guides to address religious-themed questions.
At the Denver museum, chief curator Kirk Johnson said Biblically Correct Tours at least exposes children taught only about creationism to other ideas.
Still, Johnson said: "Their message is quite backward and intellectually dishonest."
The tours have gained fresh attention in part because of recent high-profile clashes involving literal creationism as well as "intelligent design," the idea that the complexity of the universe means it must have been produced by a higher power.
Just Tuesday, the Ohio Board of Education voted 11-4 to delete a science standard and correlating lesson plan that encourages students to seek evidence for and against evolution.
Carter and Jack said children should hear about both creationism and evolution.
"What we need to do is teach good science and present both models and let students decide what model makes most sense," Jack said. "To do anything else is censorship."
Biblical tours of the zoo might include a discussion of sin, while a trip to a fossil display will touch on the flood of Noah.
At the atmospheric research center, the theme might be the wonderment of God's creation.
Carter, who has a degree in biblical studies, admits feeling somewhat intimidated when he first gave tours, knowing scientists were listening.
"I used to think, 'What are they thinking? Are they going to come out and correct me?' " he said.
Johnson, the curator, was raised a Seventh-day Adventist. He says he rejected the idea of a 6,000-year-old Earth when, around age 10, he became curious about fossil layers.
"It's an interesting kind of arrogance to dismiss something that you don't know a lot about," Johnson said of the tour guides.
The tours are not all fun and games, with the guides claiming that evolutionist thinking supports racism and abortion.
This happened on a recent atmospheric research center tour, when Carter told a dozen children and their parents abortion was an act of natural selection carried out by humans.
Other tours suggest Hitler was playing his version of survival of the fittest by favoring whites and note that museum dioramas of early humans have black "subhumans."
"My contention is evolution kills people," Jack said in an interview. "It's not that evolutionists don't have morality, it's that evolution can offer no morality.
"Ideas have consequences. If you believe you came from slime there is no reason not to, if you can, get away with anything."
Teri Eastburn, an educational designer at the center, said she would never engage in such discussions during a tour. She said the complex welcomes anyone, but notes in-house tours only espouse scientific views of the world.
"We try to explain it using evidence that we find in the natural world, whereas religion is dealing more with spirituality, ethics and morality, which science does not deal with at all," she said. "It's different ways of knowing. How people reconcile the ways of knowing is an individual choice."

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"Did man and dinosaurs live together?" Carter asks.
A timid yes comes from the students.
"How do we know that to be true?" Carter says.

"It was on the Flintstones?"
"Correct!" gushed Carter.

**Grimmlok** · February 24th, 2006, 11:19 AM

These people are retards. I love how, even if you built a fucking time machine and dragged them back 65 million years to witness the extinction of the dinosaurs, they'd claim it was all a sham or a conspiracy.

I hate them. I hate people like this. I hate their closemindedness, I hate their dismissal of mountains of evidence in favor of some unsubstantiated fairy tale, I hate their "belief" that doesn't stem from anything but intellectual cowardice...

If I could wipe them all from the planet, I would.

Ignorant fools.

**twitchy** · February 24th, 2006, 11:22 AM

I sense that you are holding back.

**Grimmlok** · February 24th, 2006, 11:25 AM

Yeah, only because I haven't left a swath of broken and bloody retard corpses in my wake as I cleanse the planet of such stupidity.

**buttmunch** · March 1st, 2006, 05:30 AM

I'm with you, Grimm. These people are scary beyond words. Whoever said ignorance is bliss didn't know what the fuck they were talking about. These people are an open sore on rational thinking.