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Old September 29th, 2009, 11:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Sex abuse rife in other religions, says Vatican

The Vatican has lashed out at criticism over its handling of its paedophilia crisis by saying the Catholic church was "busy cleaning its own house" and that the problems with clerical sex abuse in other churches were as big, if not bigger.
In a defiant and provocative statement, issued following a meeting of the UN human rights council in Geneva, the Holy See said the majority of Catholic clergy who committed such acts were not paedophiles but homosexuals attracted to sex with adolescent males.
The statement, read out by Archbishop Silvano Tomasi, the Vatican's permanent observer to the UN, defended its record by claiming that "available research" showed that only 1.5%-5% of Catholic clergy were involved in child sex abuse.
He also quoted statistics from the Christian Scientist Monitor newspaper to show that most US churches being hit by child sex abuse allegations were Protestant and that sexual abuse within Jewish communities was common.
He added that sexual abuse was far more likely to be committed by family members, babysitters, friends, relatives or neighbours, and male children were quite often guilty of sexual molestation of other children.
The statement said that rather than paedophilia, it would "be more correct" to speak of ephebophilia, a homosexual attraction to adolescent males.
"Of all priests involved in the abuses, 80 to 90% belong to this sexual orientation minority which is sexually engaged with adolescent boys between the ages of 11 and 17."
The statement concluded: "As the Catholic church has been busy cleaning its own house, it would be good if other institutions and authorities, where the major part of abuses are reported, could do the same and inform the media about it."
The Holy See launched its counter–attack after an international representative of the International Humanist and Ethical Union, Keith Porteous Wood, accused it of covering up child abuse and being in breach of several articles under the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Porteous Wood said the Holy See had not contradicted any of his accusations. "The many thousands of victims of abuse deserve the international community to hold the Vatican to account, something it has been unwilling to do, so far. Both states and children's organisations must unite to pressurise the Vatican to open its files, change its procedures worldwide, and report suspected abusers to civil authorities."
Representatives from other religions were dismayed by the Holy See's attempts to distance itself from controversy by pointing the finger at other faiths.
Rabbi Joseph Potasnik, head of the New York Board of Rabbis, said: "Comparative tragedy is a dangerous path on which to travel. All of us need to look within our own communities. Child abuse is sinful and shameful and we must expel them immediately from our midst."
A spokesman for the US Episcopal Church said measures for the prevention of sexual misconduct and the safeguarding of children had been in place for years.
Of all the world religions, Roman Catholicism has been hardest hit by sex abuse scandals. In the US, churches have paid more than $2bn (£1.25bn) in compensation to victims. In Ireland, reports into clerical sexual abuse have rocked both the Catholic hierarchy and the state.
The Ryan Report, published last May, revealed that beatings and humiliation by nuns and priests were common at institutions that held up to 30,000 children. A nine-year investigation found that Catholic priests and nuns for decades terrorised thousands of boys and girls, while government inspectors failed to stop the abuse.

Sex abuse rife in other religions, says Vatican | World news | The Guardian
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Old September 29th, 2009, 11:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old September 30th, 2009, 07:13 AM   #3 (permalink)
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^^And, "Hey, it's ephebophilia, not pedophilia! What's your beef?"

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Old September 30th, 2009, 11:00 AM   #4 (permalink)
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So they are cleaning house by pointing the finger at others? I see.

The Catholic church will always be the epitomy of hypocracy, there is no changing that.

Anyone who still supports this mess, doesn't deserve any better.
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Old October 1st, 2009, 06:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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That's a weak ass attempt at deflection.
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Old October 5th, 2009, 11:16 PM   #6 (permalink)
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While there is no denying that sexual abuse has taken place in the Catholic Church, research and statistics indicate that it's actually MORE prevalent among Protestant clergy. So, I don't think it's wrong for Catholics to try to point out that this isn't just a "Catholic" problem.
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Old October 5th, 2009, 11:17 PM   #7 (permalink)
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research no doubt paid for by the Vatican

Actually, i found the little blurb you were referring to..

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The Associated Press reported recently that three insurance companies receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by Protestant clergy, challenging the assumption that clergy sexual abuse is an exclusively Catholic problem that does not take place in other churches.

That is a higher number than the annual average of 228 “credible accusations” brought against Catholic clerics in records reported by the Catholic Church in response to media scrutiny, a priest observed in a Fox News commentary questioning why the story isn’t garnering more attention.

Protestant Clergy Abuse Equals or Exceeds Catholic Clergy Abuse « BECAUSE IT MATTERS ~ Freedom from Abuse in Christianity
So if i understand correctly, the catholic church is pointing the finger elsewhere after providing THEIR OWN NUMBERS on how many kids they've fucked in an attempt to set the record straight.

Uhhuh. You'll pardon me if I don't start thinking condoms are the devils work all of a sudden too.
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Another reason I'm an Athiest.
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Old October 8th, 2009, 11:57 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Another reason I'm an Athiest.

Religion has a way of creating Atheists, don't it?

Fundies and Family throw statistics in my face, showing that Buhleeeeevers make more kids, ergo they win! Fortunately, the absurdity of Monotheism and it's sadistic ways breeds atheism all by itself - without genetic intervention.
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Indeed it does!
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Religion has a way of creating Atheists, don't it?

Fundies and Family throw statistics in my face, showing that Buhleeeeevers make more kids, ergo they win! Fortunately, the absurdity of Monotheism and it's sadistic ways breeds atheism all by itself - without genetic intervention.
Amen!

Catholic Church=pissy whiners who're angry people won't give them absolute unquestioned power and authority anymore and insist (how uppity!) that they conform to normal standards of human decency.

Love the terminology wonkage too...nice, now you guys can show off how many finicky distinctions you've mastered about the perverts in your midst. Gosh, we're all so impressed down here.

And they only forbid birth control because uncontrolled birthing makes so many more good little Catholics to support and further the Church's ambitions! So obvious and transparent, ugh.

Last but not least, if Catholic clergy lead the world in child (and other) sexual abuses, it's because the ridiculous Church continues to insist upon mandatory celibacy. Yes, 'cause that's such a healthy policy.
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Religion has a way of creating Atheists, don't it?
No kidding, but my inlaws are masters at causing Atheists.
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