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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinola View Post
    The police are saying the body wasn't mangled.
    Maybe I'm reading too much into it or reading it wrong, but alls the chief says is, 'this information is false' and to me he isn't being very specific, is it false as in it's not completely true, partly true, or is this just a way to try and lessen the blow for the family and loved ones?

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    Dunno--I'm just passing along the info, because the "mangled" story was so horrifying. Here's another version of it that might be clearer:

    Police: New York Post Report That Annie Le's Body Was Mangled At Yale Lab Is False - Capitol Watch

    New Haven's police chief says that a report in the New York Post newspaper about Annie Le's body being mangled is false.

    The Post had reported incorrectly that Le, a former high school valedictorian who was studying for her graduate degree at Yale University in New Haven, suffered broken bones and that her body had been mangled in order to fit inside a wall at the heavily secured laboratory at 10 Amistad Street.

    The New Haven state's attorney had asked that the Post report should be corrected and disregarded.
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    Yeah, something isn't right here. There's no blood splatter with a strangulation.

    I read somewhere (sorry, can't remember where) that there was a text from him to Annie that morning asking for a meeting to discuss the condition of the cages.

    My armchair sleuthing is remaining on the fence now about a motive. Too many unexplained variables. Asian Awareness Club, rumored prior affairs with other lab workers, strangulation vs. blood splatter (which could mean two different motives), the deliberate way he went about using his and her swipe cards throughout the lab, etc.

    That's heartbreaking to see her fiance wearing his wedding ring. I can't even imagine.

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    yeah i cant figure a motive either. maybe she was just super annoying and demanding and pushed him over the edge. i could see it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinola View Post
    Dunno--I'm just passing along the info, because the "mangled" story was so horrifying. Here's another version of it that might be clearer:

    Police: New York Post Report That Annie Le's Body Was Mangled At Yale Lab Is False - Capitol Watch
    I guess I see what the chief is saying, but if I were him and this news was truly false, I would outright say to the media explicitly stating that in no way shape or form was her body mangled or destroyed to fit into a space. The family needs to hear that if it is false, not saying it is false but not offering an outright refutal. I know, it's a small point but something that just struck me.

    I'm with Alice and Nevan, just little things here and there that added up but I can totally see they were already butting heads over the condition of the rat cages and whatnot. As I said before, people in the labs can be very possessive and territorial of their space and equipment, to the point of intense anger and fury. Since she was so small and seemingly vulnerable, I can see him snapping and just acting out murderously. Remember, this was a guy with a history of controlling and possessive behavior who doesn't like to be told no or put in his place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AliceInWonderland View Post
    yeah i cant figure a motive either. maybe she was just super annoying and demanding and pushed him over the edge. i could see it
    even if she was annoying, don't see how that can push someone to murder her.

    this lab-rat loser shoulda driven to baltimore and taken his aggressions out on the hopkins samurai student.

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    well yeah, he was definitely psycho, but that might have triggered him. sad.

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    Annie Le Killer, Raymond Clark, sentenced to 44 years in prison for Yale research lab murder

    BY Gabriela Resto-Montero
    DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
    Friday, June 3rd 2011, 9:55 PM

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    Raymond Clark III was sentenced Friday to 44 years in prison for the September 2009 murder of 24-year-old Yale graduate student, Annie le.

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    Vivian Van Le, mother of Annie Le, wipes her eye as her attorney speaks to the media outside Superior Court in New Haven, Conn., Friday, June 3, 2011. Le was murdered in 2009 days before her wedding.


    A Yale research technician was sentenced to 44 years in prison Friday for strangling graduate student Annie Le just days before her 2009 wedding.
    Raymond Clark III, 26, who worked as an animal research assistant at the same lab where 24-year-old Le was studying treatments for chronic diseases, had pleaded guilty in March to strangling her after attempting to sexually assault her.
    Le, a doctoral pharmacology student and native of Placerville, Calif., was reported missing five days before her wedding to Columbia University graduate student Jonathan Widawsky.
    Her body was found stuffed inside a wall of the research lab on the day she would have been married.
    Her family recounted the shock of planning a funeral instead of a wedding in an emotional pre-sentencing hearing that even brought Clark's fiance to tears.
    "She told me many times how happy she was to start her family," said her mother, Vivian Van Le.
    "I will never see her walking down the aisle. I will never hold my grandchildren. I will never see Annie's dreams come true."
    "I only see my Annie in my dreams," she said.
    Le's brother, Chris Le, testified that since his sister's murder, he has struggled with depression.
    "I was in school, now I'm not," Le said. "I never had a DUI, now I do. I never found solace in experimenting with drugs, I did in my darkest moments. I never had to see a psychologist, but I do that now."
    Another relative, Ryan Nguyen, told how his younger brother Sean, who was supposed to be the ring bearer at Le's wedding, played with a teddy bear Le had intended to give him on the flight out of New Haven days after her death.
    Before handing down his sentence, Judge Roland Fasano told Clark that he'd destroyed the lives of two families and taken the life of a promising young woman.
    Clark apologized for killing Le and stuffing her dead body in the wall of the research lab.
    "Annie was and will always be a wonderful person, by far a better person that I will never be in my life," Clark said.
    "I'm sorry I lied. I'm sorry I ruined lives and I'm sorry for taking Annie Le's life," he said.
    Authorities testified that Clark left a bloody crime scene and that he had scrubbed the lab's floors and tried to hide a box of cleaning wipes in an attempt to clean up after himself.
    Investigators also recovered Clark's semen at the scene and his DNA on a pen found under Le's body.
    Annie Le Killer, Raymond Clark, sentenced to 44 years in prison for Yale research lab murder

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    Good. Thanks for posting the update Twitchy!

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    Thanks for the update!! Let's just hope he doesn't get out in 10 years for good behavior.

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    That is not enough time. He will get paroled and have a life. He ruined so many lives!
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    I *hated* this story so much. Almost as much as the Kyron Horman case--that one haunts me. I'm so glad they caught the bastard who did this, and he's going away, but dammit---this young woman had so much to look forward to and the potential was limitless. So smart! And just days before getting married...
    I just cannot imagine how difficult it has been for that poor family/fiancee.

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    I want to know what goes in in the minds of people like that. So many unanswered questions.

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    Have I missed something, because I still don't understand why there was blood when she died of strangulation.

    This article had a few facts I didn't know.

    Clark pleads guilty to Le murder



    By Harrison Korn, Everett Rosenfeld

    Senior Reporter and Staff Reporter

    Monday, March 21, 2011

    Eighteen months after his arrest, Raymond Clark III has admitted that he murdered Annie Le GRD ’13.

    Clark, who worked as a lab technician at 10 Amistad St., the same Yale building where Le worked, pleaded guilty in New Haven Superior Court on Thursday to both murder and attempt to commit sexual assault in exchange for a 44-year prison sentence. The sexual assault charge reveals for the first time a possible motive for the killing. Yale administrators previously described the murder as the result of “workplace violence” against Le, who went missing Sept. 8, 2009, just days before she was to marry. Police found her body inside a wall at 10 Amistad St. nearly one week later, and later concluded that she was strangled.

    At the hearing, Connecticut Superior Court Judge Roland Fasano revealed that Clark is eligible for a sentence of 25 to 80 years in prison under Connecticut sentencing guidelines. The parties agreed to a 44-year prison sentence as part of the plea.

    Individuals serving time for murder in Connecticut are not eligible for parole, said co-prosecutor David Strollo in a post-hearing interview Thursday. Clark, who is 26, will spend a full 44 years in prison and will not be eligible for parole before that. Upon his release from prison, Clark will be about 70.

    Yale’s Office of Public Affairs and Communications released a statement following the hearing, expressing relief that Le’s family did not have endure a trial.

    “We hope today’s guilty plea and the sentence that will follow will help bring closure to them and to all in the Yale community who suffered by her senseless killing,” the release said.

    Clark was originally charged with both felony murder and murder, to which he pleaded not guilty. Clark would have faced the same maximum prison sentence of 60 years for the killing if he were convicted of either felony murder or murder. He would have faced an additional maximum sentence of 20 years for the sexual assault charge.

    “Given the nature of the evidence that the state had, I think 44 years was his best option,” said Beth Merkin, one of Clark’s defense attorneys. “I think, had he gone to trial, we would have seen a much worse outcome.”

    Clark pleaded guilty to the charge of attempt to commit sexual assault under the Alford Doctrine, which allows a defendant to acknowledge that the state has enough evidence for a conviction should the case go to trial and plead guilty without admitting guilt.

    “Sexual assault was always part of the evidence, and we were aware that the state would have added that charge — maybe some other charges as well,” Merkin said.

    Clark, who wore a blue button-down shirt and black pants, winked at his family as he entered the courtroom and did not speak except to plead guilty and answer “yes” and “no” to the judge’s questions.

    As part of the guilty plea process, Strollo was required to list charge-substantiating details, including extensive DNA, keycard, finger print and video evidence, on the record. Although some of the information was previously listed in public police reports — including that a bloody sock bearing both Clark and Le’s DNA found in a ceiling at 10 Amistad St. — some were made public for the first time.

    Strollo revealed that Le’s body was found upside down, partially decomposed inside a wall in a basement locker room, with a broken jaw and collarbone. Medical examiners found that she sustained those injuries while she was still alive. Le’s bra was pushed up and her panties were found around her ankles, Strollo said. Seminal fluid was also found on her panty liner, but the sample was not large enough to test for a DNA match with Clark. Other semen found on the scene matched Clark’s, he added.

    Strollo also said that Clark tried to cover up the crime by attempting to pull evidence from the wall using fishing line. Clark scrubbed a drain clean and used air freshener in an attempt to conceal the odor of the decomposing body, Strollo said. He also claimed that police found notes to co-workers in Clark’s sock that indicate he was trying to fabricate an alibi, but Clark’s attorneys disputed that claim at the hearing.

    Le’s family was not present at the hearing, but Strollo said they planned to attend Clark’s sentencing. Joe Tacopina, the attorney for Le’s parents, told the Associated Press that Le’s mother did not attend the hearing because listening to details of the crime would have been too painful.

    “Our office has been in constant contact with a number of members of the Le family,” co-prosecutor John Waddock told the News after the hearing.

    Strollo said that Le’s parents were satisfied with the recommended sentence, but other family members thought Clark deserved more time. The Le family will have an opportunity to address the public at Clark’s sentencing, Waddock said, adding that the purpose of this address is to “personalize what has occurred.” The Le family has not indicated if they plan to file a civil suit against Yale or any other parties as a result of the murder.

    Clark’s father, mother and fiancée, Jennifer Hromadka, who still works for Yale, were present in the courtroom. After the hearing, Clark’s father, Raymond Clark II, read a statement to the press outside the courthouse.

    “My family and I extend our deepest sympathy to the Le family,” he said. “I want you to know that Ray has expressed extreme remorse from the beginning. I can’t tell you how many times he sobbed uncontrollably, telling me how sorry he is.”

    “Our hearts are broken,” he continued. “It doesn’t make any sense to us. This is not the Ray we know.”

    Clark previously pleaded not guilty in January 2010. His final sentence will be announced at a court date tentatively scheduled for June 3, but Merkin said Clark will definitely receive the recommended sentence of 44 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    I want to know what goes in in the minds of people like that. So many unanswered questions.
    Probably not much else besides rage, fueled by a lot of resentment that maybe had a lot of time to build. Obviously not the most mentally balanced individual.

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