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    Quote Originally Posted by BBDSP View Post
    I don't have a good feeling about the outcome, either.

    But I bet a lot of people in Florida don't care. What a sick law. It's basically Zimmerman's word against Trayvon's, and Trayvon is dead.
    Why would you assume that? This whole thing has made me sick to my stomach as well as all of my friends and family. Yes there are some assholes that feel Zimmerman shouldn't be arrested but that doesn't make up for the whole state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    The outcome of Zimmerman is that he will walk because an investigation was not immediate, in fact the investigation didn't start until the mob screamed loud enough to get the Feds to hear. The Baker/Browning case is at least being actively investigated and appears to have been from the beginning.
    I have serious doubts about the investigation in Baker/Browning. Baker's girlfriend and brother were eyewitnesses to the shooting, within feet of what happened, and Seth Browning was never even arrested.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEE View Post
    Why would you assume that? This whole thing has made me sick to my stomach as well as all of my friends and family. Yes there are some assholes that feel Zimmerman shouldn't be arrested but that doesn't make up for the whole state.
    I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that most people in FLA don't care. I just don't know how this could have happened with so little general outcry or publicity at the time. I worry that some people might be considered expendable, whether it's because they are drunken white trash, poor Hispanic, black, or whatever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    The outcome of Zimmerman is that he will walk because an investigation was not immediate, in fact the investigation didn't start until the mob screamed loud enough to get the Feds to hear. The Baker/Browning case is at least being actively investigated and appears to have been from the beginning.
    This makes me sick to my stomach. I avoid this thread because my gut knows a murderer is going to go free. I only hope this young man's life makes a change to the law to help keep more families from this pain. It's something his senseless death can result in since his family probably won't get justice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BBDSP View Post
    I'm sorry, I didn't mean to imply that most people in FLA don't care. I just don't know how this could have happened with so little general outcry or publicity at the time. I worry that some people might be considered expendable, whether it's because they are drunken white trash, poor Hispanic, black, or whatever.
    No worries, I just get a little bend out of shape when people think that we are all racist and support this fucked up law. It's hard enough that we really are known as the crazy state.
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    And you're not allowed to vote anymore. Don't forget that part.
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    You could drive a Mack truck through the loopholes for aggressors in the FL law:

    776.041 Use of force by aggressor. —The justification described in the preceding sections of this chapter is not available to a person who:
    (1) Is attempting to commit, committing, or escaping after the commission of, a forcible felony; or

    (2) Initially provokes the use of force against himself or herself, unless:

    (a) Such force is so great that the person reasonably believes that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm and that he or she has exhausted every reasonable means to escape such danger other than the use of force which is likely to cause death or great bodily harm to the assailant; or

    (b) In good faith, the person withdraws from physical contact with the assailant and indicates clearly to the assailant that he or she desires to withdraw and terminate the use of force, but the assailant continues or resumes the use of force.
    So pick a fight, and if it so happens the guy you pick a fight with starts throwing you a beating instead of the other way round, shoot. It's cool.

    Or just say you ran away after starting the fight, but they then came after you and shoot. If there are no witnesses how would they know.
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    *edit* That was to greys
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    Hope this happens to Zimmerman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    So pick a fight, and if it so happens the guy you pick a fight with starts throwing you a beating instead of the other way round, shoot. It's cool.

    Or just say you ran away after starting the fight, but they then came after you and shoot. If there are no witnesses how would they know.
    Aye. I liked when it was Jayne Cobb saying this, in science fiction:

    Hell, I'll kill a man in a fair fight... or if I think he's gonna start a fair fight, or if he bothers me, or if there's a woman, or if I'm gettin' paid...
    In real life, not so much.
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    This will end well!


    Armed Neo-Nazis Now Patrolling Sanford, Say They Are "Prepared" For Post-Trayvon Martin Violence
    By Michael Miller Fri., Apr. 6 2012 at 7:00 AM Comments (803)
    Categories: WTF Florida




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    Members of the National Socialist Movement during a patrol on the US-Mexico border in January
    Neo-Nazis are currently conducting heavily armed patrols in and around Sanford, Florida and are "prepared" for violence in the case of a race riot. The patrols are to protect "white citizens in the area who are concerned for their safety" in the wake of the Trayvon Martin shooting last month, says Commander Jeff Schoep of the National Socialist Movement. "We are not advocating any type of violence or attacks on anybody, but we are prepared for it," he says. "We are not the type of white people who are going to be walked all over."

    Because nothing diffuses racial tension like gun-toting racial separatists patrolling an already on-edge community.

    Schoep, whose neo-Nazi group is based in Detroit, tells Riptide the patrols are a response to white residents' fears of a race riot.
    A group called the New Black Panther Party recently offered $10,000 for a citizens' arrest of George Zimmerman, Martin's shooter. Schoep said the bounty is a sign that "the possibility of further racial violence... is brimming over like a powder keg ready to explode into the streets."

    The patrols are comprised of between 10 and 20 locals and "volunteers" from across the state, including some from Miami, he added. He couldn't go into specifics on what kind of firepower, exactly, the patrols had with them.



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    NSM members on patrol in Arizona
    "In Arizona the guys can walk around with assault weapons and that's totally legal," Schoep said, referring to the group's patrols of the US-Mexico border. "What I can tell you is that any patrols that we are doing now in Florida are totally within the law."

    Asked if the patrols wouldn't just make things worse -- spark a race riot, for instance -- Schoep insisted they were simply a "show of solidarity with the white community down there" and "wouldn't intimidate anybody."

    "Whenever there is one of these racially charged events, Al Sharpton goes wherever blacks need him," Schoep said. "We do similar things. We are a white civil rights organization."

    He went to great lengths to contrast his organization with the New Black Panther Party, who he blamed for scaring local whites and spurring the need for NSM patrols. Schoep admits that the NSM and the Black Panthers are actually alike in that they are both racial separatists. But he sees a double-standard in the government's treatment of the two groups.

    "The Black Panthers have been offering bounties and all that," he says. "But if we called for a bounty on someone's head, I guarantee we'd be locked up as quick as I could walk out of my house."


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    Schoep was also quick to clarify that he isn't taking sides in Trayvon Martin's controversial shooting. "That's for the courts to decide," he says. Besides, Schoep says, Zimmerman's not even white.

    "I think there is some confusion going on," Schoep says. "A lot of people think that this guy who shot Trayvon was white... but he's half Hispanic or Cuban or something. He certainly doesn't look white to me."

    To some, sending in the storm troops seems like a sure way to incite -- not prevent -- a race riot. But Schoep says that's way off base.

    "We don't wish for things like that," he says. "But there have been race riots in Detroit and L.A... So we know those types of things happen."

    "You can either be prepared or you can be blindsided," he adds. "This way, if something were to touch off a race riot, we'd already be in the area."

    How reassuring.

    Armed Neo-Nazis Now Patrolling Sanford, Say They Are "Prepared" For Post-Trayvon Martin Violence - Miami News - Riptide 2.0

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    Fantastic.
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    Wow i've smoked my fair share of ganja, and I've been known to wear a hoodie. I'm a white woman in my early 50s. So what? Should someone shoot me?
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    This just popped up on the CNN ticker.
    Special prosecutor in Trayvon Martin shooting has decided against sending the case to a grand jury, her office says.
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