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    So some tidbits from "my" life I had a classmate whose grandmother was neighbors with Ed Gein and said he was just lovely. Now remember Wisconsin neighbors aren't that close in that neck of the woods, but yeah. Super effing creepy barf.

    I also used to post with a woman who was a teen at the time whose sister in law was murdered by a serial killer-- Reinaldo Rivera--sicko
    He killed 4 women and was caught when he was trying to kill a 5th and she called for help. The sister in law actually had her infant daughter with her at the time and thank heaven's for some reason he decided to leave her at a safe haven. He's on death row and has been for way too long. Southern Fried Homicide did an episode on him. He's hinted he "practiced" on prostitutes.

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    I watched a documentary on Gary Ridgeway last night. The matter of fact attitude while discussing his killings with police and his resemblance to Ned Flanders in the interview room tapes was unnerving. His outer calmness and normality increased the creepy factor 100-fold.
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    Those Louisiana Axe murders sound a lot like the Servant Girl Annihilator who was active in Austin in the mid 1880s. There's a documentary I saw one time about these.

    The Servant Girl Annihilator | The Servant Girl Murders Austin, Texas 1885

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    Quote Originally Posted by VeraGemini View Post
    An interesting serial killer who isn't well remembered today is the Axeman of New Orleans.
    They depicted this in American Horror Story - Coven, didn't they?
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    I noticed that Heidi Cruz did not actually deny that Ted is the Zodiac Killer.

    “Well, I’ve been married to him for 15 years and I know pretty well who he is, so it doesn’t bother me at all."
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    I started taking serial killer nonfiction paperbacks from the library when I was 10 because the librarian gave me crap when I tried to check some out calling them "too adult". (Small town...) I would just slip them into my backpack, and then bring them back and set them on the shelf.

    My spouse cooked dinner for Anne Rule on many occasions on her trips to the town we lived in. She was local and favorite true crime author. I have many signed books with personal inscriptions and an email from her. RIP

    I had a professor that knew Ted Bundy and attended classes with him. Said he was totally normal, but was much too short for her taste.

    As kids when we'd drive over bridges along the Green River we would get shivers. My childhood was filled with news reports of more bodies popping up, and of course the notorious Ted. WA state is like the home of the serial killer, though Dahlmer is the one that has fascinated me the most aside from Gein, and Gacy. It's common around these parts to hear tales from someone who knew one of these sons of bitches. I know a few people that worked at the same plant with the Green River Killer.

    And my addition to the serial killer list is: Herbert Baumeister. Absolute sick freak, he was a closeted homosexual man, married with a family, and owned a successful business in town. One of his family members found a skull in the backyard and he laughed it off, and they didn't question it. He was doing rapey drug induced murders in his home, some poolside, and no one was the wiser....Picking up young men in gay bars and then commuting back to his pad where he'd extinguish the objects of his lust. He killed himself sadly, so he never got to experience any prison torture.

    Herbert Richard Baumeister | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers

    His property and mansion was called Fox Hollow Farm. There are several films and documentaries about him. His wife is a very odd duck. Kind of "it's Pat" and asexual. During interviews she never even came off as giving two shits that her husband was a complete psycho. It takes a special kind I think to be married to a serial killer and choose not to know. I don't believe any of these wives were totally clueless, especially Gary Ridgeway's wife.

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    omg, Ann Rule died? I had no idea. Loved all her books for years and read every one. I hadn't kept up with her writings recently but have a newer one that my bff gave me to read. Maybe this summer.

    I was just thinking of her because there was a Dateline rerun on this morning about Allan Blackthorne (who had his ex wife murdered) and I remembered she wrote a book about the case back in the day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OCD View Post
    I had a professor that knew Ted Bundy and attended classes with him. Said he was totally normal, but was much too short for her taste.
    He was 5'10. She must have high standards for guys that have sex with cut off heads. LOL


    We all like to laugh at Cruz being Zodiac. But whoever it was always fascinated me. Imagine if the killer was really Robert Graysmith? It's not. But that would be one hell of a plot twist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebob View Post
    He was 5'10. She must have high standards for guys that have sex with cut off heads. LOL


    We all like to laugh at Cruz being Zodiac. But whoever it was always fascinated me. Imagine if the killer was really Robert Graysmith? It's not. But that would be one hell of a plot twist.
    He would be the greatest hiding-in-plain-sight serial killer since Dexter. By the way, I really enjoyed the "Zodiac" movie, with Jake Gyllenhal playing Graysmith. The whole cast was really understated. I even liked Chloe Sevigny as Gyllenhal's long-suffering girlfriend. And the overall tone was terrific - which makes sense for a David Fincher movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie View Post
    omg, Ann Rule died? I had no idea. Loved all her books for years and read every one. I hadn't kept up with her writings recently but have a newer one that my bff gave me to read. Maybe this summer.

    I was just thinking of her because there was a Dateline rerun on this morning about Allan Blackthorne (who had his ex wife murdered) and I remembered she wrote a book about the case back in the day.
    Yep she died last summer. Her kids drained her financially and there has been accusations and speculation that the kids were basically committing elder abuse against her. It's really sad considering she made her name telling other women's stories, and then she ends up being abused and treated like crap by her own kids. (I don't think all of her kids were dicks, but she does have a son that was a big time moocher.)

    Allan Blackthorn sends shivers up my spine. Her books were about some of the scariest mofo's on earth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittylady View Post
    I watched a documentary on Gary Ridgeway last night. The matter of fact attitude while discussing his killings with police and his resemblance to Ned Flanders in the interview room tapes was unnerving. His outer calmness and normality increased the creepy factor 100-fold.
    That's why he's one that creeps me out so much. He's totally calm and seems like a pretty normal guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    He would be the greatest hiding-in-plain-sight serial killer since Dexter.
    LOL. It sure the fuck would be.


    By the way, I really enjoyed the "Zodiac" movie, with Jake Gyllenhal playing Graysmith. The whole cast was really understated. I even liked Chloe Sevigny as Gyllenhal's long-suffering girlfriend. And the overall tone was terrific - which makes sense for a David Fincher movie.
    It was a hell of a movie. Tho i'm not fully on board with Arthur Lee Allen as Zodiac.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebonnet View Post
    They depicted this in American Horror Story - Coven, didn't they?
    Yeah, I looked him up during AHS-Coven and saw that letter he wrote to the local paper. And for some reason, serial killers seem scarier when they're from hundred(s) of years ago.

    But the Kathy Bates serial killer character in that season existed too and she was a fuckin maniac that allegedly tortured her slaves horribly before killing them. I think on the series she stuffed something into the mouth of a slave and sewed his lips shut, obviously with no anesthesia so she could enjoy torturing him.
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    I always like the questions or what ifs with killers.

    I personally believe there is a good chance the Zodiac Killer was two people.

    Did Gacy have an accomplice?

    I believe Ted Bundy killed only a few more women than he admitted to. The 100 bullshit is pure fantasy and not possible, considering what is known about his activities.

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    At first, I thought Gacy might have had an accomplice - but his profession and technique seem to belie that. He tricked his victims into putting on real handcuffs (instead of the fake ones that he showed them at first). At that point, he would not need help subduing them. Because he had a construction company, he had all kinds of expertise at excavating around his basement without accidentally collapsing his whole house.

    That being said, I was around 12 when they caught Gacy and I remember one of his intended victims being interviewed. It sounded like Gacy was cruising him on the street and complimenting him on his tan. And I could have sworn the guy said Gacy had someone with him when he tried to subdue the guy (out of his normal tactics of getting him alone at the house first). But my memory on that could be faulty.

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