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    Imagine what a silencer would have achieved in this scenario. At least, people were alerted by loud explosions and finally decided they were gun shots. Even though a silencer is not silent (it suppresses the loudness of the shot), it would have made it even MORE difficult to determine there was an active shooter, much less isolate the source of the shots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    Imagine what a silencer would have achieved in this scenario. At least, people were alerted by loud explosions and finally decided they were gun shots. Even though a silencer is not silent (it suppresses the loudness of the shot), it would have made it even MORE difficult to determine there was an active shooter, much less isolate the source of the shots.
    I don't think the guy could have used a silencer though, he was shooting from too far away (32nd floor of a hotel that was some distance away). don't silencers weaken the force of a bullet and shorten its trajectory?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    I don't think the guy could have used a silencer though, he was shooting from too far away (32nd floor of a hotel that was some distance away). don't silencers weaken the force of a bullet and shorten its trajectory?
    Unfortunately, they don't slow them down at all these days. This web site discusses it: http://www.accurateshooter.com/gear-...-need-to-know/

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    that's fucking terrifying
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    The good guy with a gun. Yep the scenario works perfectly here. NOT
    Beyond me how someone can watch the footage of what most of us have been seeing and think time to buy some guns' This really saddens me.
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    You could probably buy all that shit right down the road from where I live at the local gun/knife shows, which they have all the damn time. I've been there a couple times when MrD and I were married. But only to get a knife, then some fresh veggies at the farmer's set ups.
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    So there were 270+ mass shootings in the US in 2017 alone... yay, how common.

    To be very honest, I have read so many comments and it seems like all people care about is not to blame the gun, because people kill people etc. Personally, such news were shocking when I was 12, now it's like, a day or two of media coverage and then no one cares nor remembers - until the next big mass murder.
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    I was stuck in Las Vegas on 9-11. I remember saying at that time Vegas is the perfect target for a mass tragedy like this. Huge hotels that house thousands with little to no emergency services to support it. I hear there is only one major trauma center in Vegas. Those doctors and nurses must be overwhelmed. Probably setting up triages in the hallways.
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    From MSN:
    "Nevada law does not require firearms owners to have licenses, register their weapons, or limits the number of firearms an individual posses. Automatic assault weapons and machine guns are also legal in the state as long as they are registered and are possessed in adherence to federal law, according to the National Rifle Association.
    Nevada does not prohibit the transfer or possession of assault weapons, 50 caliber rifles or large capacity ammunition magazines. Local law enforcement issues concealed handgun licenses. Open carry is legal without a permit."

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    Source: The Guardians of Democracy

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    There Have Been 273 Mass Shootings In The United States In The Past 273 Days Of 2017: Report

    Thousands of country music fans ran for cover as a gunman fired on them from the 32nd floor of a hotel on the Las Vegas Strip, a mass shooting that is now the deadliest in modern US history.


    At least 58 people were killed and 515 injured Sunday night when the shooter fired hundreds of bullets on the audience at a country music festival, police said. The suspected gunman, who was found dead, was identified as 64-year-old Stephen Paddock.


    According to data collected by the Gun Violence Archive (GVA), a total of 273 mass shooting incidents have occurred so far this year, as of October 2. The GVA defines a “mass shooting” in the United States as four or more individuals being shot or killed in the same general time and location.


    Before Monday’s Las Vegas massacre, the deadliest mass shooting in modern history had been the terrorist attack at Pulse nightclub in Orlando, Fla., where 49 people were killed in June 2016.


    Prior to the Pulse shooting, the 2007 Virginia Tech mass shooting was the deadliest in the country when a student at the university killed 32 people before killing himself.


    The Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting in Newtown, Conn., where a gunman fatally shot 20 children and six adults, is now the fourth-deadliest mass shooting, according to The Hill.

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    Source: Think Progress.org

    Columnist for paper owned by billionaire Trump donor falsely blames Muslims for Las Vegas attack Fake news.

    ROOT SPEAKS AT A TRUMP RALLY IN FEBRUARY 2016. (credit: SCREENGRAB) In the aftermath of the deadliest mass shooting in modern U.S. history, a Las Vegas Review-Journal columnist recklessly blamed the violence on a “coordinated Muslim terror attack,” citing no evidence beyond anonymous “sources.”


    As news of the shooting broke on social media, Wayne Allyn Root, a conservative commentator who regularly opened for then-presidential candidate Donald Trump before his rallies in Las Vegas, tweeted that “sources on scene” and “credible news sources” told him the shooting was a “coordinated Muslim terror attack.”



    According to police, the shooting was allegedly perpetrated by 64-year-old Stephen Paddock, who lived in the Vegas area. Paddock is suspected to have carried out the attack on his own by opening fire with a rifle from a 32nd-floor hotel room at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino at a crowd of thousands who were gathered below for a country music festival. Paddock’s brother told reporters that Stephen had no political or religious affiliations as far as he knew.


    Although ISIS claimed responsibility for the attack hours after Root blamed Muslims, authorities say there’s no evidence Paddock had anything to do with the group.


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    But Root continues to baselessly claim that Muslims had something to do with it.









    In other tweets, Root has the audacity to claim that his reporting about the shooting was “correct.”


    Root authored a book titled “Angry White Male.” While opening for Trump during a rally in October of last year, he threatened violence against Trump’s political opponents. From NBC:
    Opening for the Republican nominee, Root threatened the political elite, saying he and his fellow “Trump warriors” or members of the “Trump army” — a “citizen revolution” led by “conservatives, angry Republicans who hate establishment RINOS” (Republicans In Name Only).
    He added, “Independents, working class Americans, Christians, gun owners, small business owners, military veterans and tax payers” — were going to violently take Washington D.C. with “pitchforks, jack hammers and blow torches.”

    “We’re coming to tear it down. We’re coming to rip it up. We’re coming to kick your ass. And we’re coming to put you in prison,” [Root] said.
    Root’s column is published twice weekly by the Las Vegas Review-Journal, which is owned by billionaire Trump donor Sheldon Adelson.

    The pro-Trump Gateway Pundit appears to have picked up the theory from 4chan.



    Root wasn’t the only prominent Trump supporter to spread fake news about the Las Vegas shooting. The Gateway Pundit, a pro-Trump blog that has been credentialed by the White House, ran a story Monday morning touting a baseless conspiracy theory about Paddock being “a Democrat Who Liked Rachel Maddow, MoveOn.org and Associated with Anti-Trump Army.” The story appears to have originated from 4chan’s “Politically Incorrect” forums.

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