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    gas_chick, you are spot on. Since this tragedy happened, several people each day have been coming to get their court records so that they can get their gun permits, and concealed weapons permits. My ignorant boss says, "well they want to be able to get guns before they take them away from us". Face Palm.
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    Paddock Tried to Purchase Tracer Rounds
    CNN) - Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock tried to buy tracer ammunition at a gun show in the Phoenix area in recent weeks, a law enforcement official briefed on the investigation tells CNN.

    Paddock bought other ammunition at the show, but he couldn't obtain the tracer ammunition -- bullets with a pyrotechnic charge that, when the round is fired, leaves an illuminated trace of its path -- because the vendor didn't have any to sell, the official said.

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    Paddock did not use tracer bullets when he fired into the crowd at the Route 91 Harvest Festival Sunday night from his suite on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel, hundreds of yards away, killing 58 people and injuring nearly 500 others.

    The official explained that if Paddock had tracer ammunition, he could have had a more precise idea of where his shots were going in the darkness, and could have been more accurate.

    Shooters wanting greater accuracy in the dark often mix tracer rounds with non-tracers -- perhaps having one tracer every fifth round in a magazine, said Art Roderick, a CNN law enforcement analyst.

    "It allows you to keep your weapon on not necessarily a specific target, but a specific area. ... There would have been a lot higher casualty rate if he had tracer rounds," said Roderick, a former assistant director of the US Marshals Service.

    But tracer rounds also could have allowed police to see more quickly where Paddock was firing from, CNN law enforcement analyst James Gagliano said.

    Without the tracer ammunition, Paddock's location was difficult to determine from the outside, said Gagliano, a retired FBI supervisory special agent.

    "The barrel of the rifle -- we could not see muzzle flashes, from the angles I've seen on videos, which meant that he was ... pulled back inside," Gagliano said.

    Did Paddock want to escape?
    Five days after the mass shooting, authorities still are trying to determine the motivation of the retired accountant, who had no criminal record and did not raise any flags while purchasing an arsenal of weapons.

    In addition to the 23 weapons in his hotel suite, Paddock had more than 50 pounds of exploding targets and 1,600 rounds of ammunition in his car in the hotel parking lot, police said, fueling suspicion that he intended to survive the massacre.

    "He was doing everything possible to see how he could escape," Las Vegas Police Sheriff Joseph Lombardo said Thursday, declining to detail specifics.

    Escape, in this case, might have meant using the equipment in the car for further assaults until he got caught, said John Sheahan, a former Las Vegas SWAT team member.

    "There's one of three ways it's going to end for an active shooter, and they pretty much all know this. You're either going to commit suicide; you're going to ... shoot it out with (police) and you're going to be killed; or you're going to continue on a preplanned rampage at locations b, c, d and e until the police finally stop you," Sheahan said.

    "He rented the room in his own name. He's already on video coming in and out. We know who he is. He's going to be the most wanted man in the world if he does try to leave here," he added.

    Authorities: Paddock acted alone
    There was initial speculation that Paddock had outside help in perpetrating the shooting spree, but authorities now say there is nothing to suggest he had assistance.

    Law enforcement officials briefed on the investigation told CNN they have seen no indication so far that Paddock had an accomplice or that anyone was aware of his attack planning.

    Lombardo, the sheriff, had previously expressed skepticism that the gunman carried out his plan by himself.

    "Do you think this was all accomplished on his own? You've got to make the assumption he had to have some help at some point," he said.

    As the investigation grinds on, Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department officers led the funeral of LVMPD officer Charleston Hartfield Thursday, who was among those gunned down at the Route 91 Harvest Festival country music event.

    His body was escorted to Palm Downtown Mortuary and Cemetery, and a memorial was held for the slain police officer at Police Memorial Park in the northwest of the city -- one of several vigils in Las Vegas on Thursday evening.

    Gun debate continues
    In the wake of the deadly attack, the Eastside Cannary Casino Gun Show that was expected to be held in Las Vegas this weekend has been canceled, David Strow of Boyd Gaming Corporation tells CNN.

    "This was a mutual decision with the show's organizers, given recent events, it was the prudent thing to do," Strow said.

    Twelve of the 23 firearms found in the hotel suite had bump stocks -- legal accessories for semi-automatic rifles that allow a shooter to fire rounds more rapidly.

    In the aftermath of Sunday's shooting, pro-gun Republican lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, the powerful pro-gun lobby, have suggested supporting a review of bump stocks.

    Politicians from both sides of the aisle and lobbyists are now saying the controversial devices, which sell for under $200, should be subject to additional regulation.

    US President Donald Trump is open to considering legislation that would ban bump stocks but wants to hear more information on the matter before making a final determination, the White House said Wednesday.

    Lombardo said a note with numbers written on it was found in Paddock's room, according to the New York Times. Authorities are trying to analyze its meaning, but Lombardo didn't elaborate on whether they are significant or not.

    "Lombardo said that it contained numbers that were being analyzed for their relevance, and that it was not a manifesto or suicide note," the Times reported.

    Paddock had rented rooms at other festivals
    Before checking into the Mandalay Bay days before the massacre, Paddock rented a room at a Las Vegas condo complex that overlooked the September 22-24 Life is Beautiful music festival.

    In addition, in August, a person named Stephen Paddock reserved a room at Chicago's Blackstone Hotel during the city's Lollapalooza music festival, said Wagstaff Worldwide, which represents the hotel.

    But that person never checked into the hotel, which overlooked the festival, Wagstaff Worldwide spokeswoman Emmy Carragher said.

    It was not immediately clear whether the Stephen Paddock who booked the room was the same Stephen Paddock behind the Las Vegas massacre.

    The Chicago Tribune, citing an anonymous law enforcement source, reported that it was the shooter Stephen Paddock who booked the room at the Blackstone Hotel.

    Kallie Beig, who worked at the Great Clips in Mesquite, Paddock's hometown, told CNN exclusively that she had cut Paddock's hair at least three times over the past three years, and that every time he had come in, always early in the morning, he had smelled of strong liquor.

    He would tell her that he'd been up all night gambling, she said.

    The last time she saw him was two months before Sunday's tragedy, she said.

    During his last visit, he told her he was planning on sending his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, to the Philippines and he was going to be alone. She did not discuss the trip with Danley personally.

    "The last time I saw him was probably only about two months ago... he came in and got his hair cut, and again, smelled of alcohol, and his girlfriend was with him... doing her own thing, and he was telling me about her leaving to go to the Philippines."

    She said that the interaction was normal and didn't raise any red flags with her.

    "He was going to be home alone hanging out for a while by himself but it wasn't anything weird, it wasn't anything that seemed off."

    In her statement released through her attorney, Matt Lombard, Danley said the trip was a surprise.

    "A little more than two weeks ago, Stephen told me he found a cheap ticket for me to the Philippines and that he wanted me to take a trip home to see my family," she said.

    "Like all Filipinos abroad, I was excited to go home and see family and friends."

    Beig characterized their relationship as quite cold and distant -- she said she didn't see them interacting in any sort of intimate way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by levitt View Post
    This makes me sad, because 22 of those in the UK are Manchester
    Yep. I couldn't stop checking the news when it happened (I'm about 25 or so miles away) so heaven only knows what it was like for you guys. But this shooting in Vegas has convinced me more than ever that we are doing the right thing keeping guns to a minimum in this country.
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    Who Is Jesus Campos? Las Vegas Security Guard Raises New Questions About Shooting

    As questions spiral about a significant shift in the timeline of the Las Vegas shooting, a security guard stands in the middle of the controversy: Jesus Campos.

    At first, Campos, a guard at the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino, was hailed a hero for helping guide police to gunman Stephen Paddock's room on the 32nd floor. Police said Campos was shot in the leg at the end of Paddock's assault on concertgoers—potentially distracting the gunman and causing him to panic and kill himself.

    But now, questions have been raised after Clark County Sheriff Joe Lombardo revised the timeline and said Campos had actually been shot about 9:59 p.m.—a full six minutes before the mass shooting began at 10:05 p.m.—which means the guard could have instead led Paddock to start opening fire on the crowd for fear of being caught.

    Police have said it was difficult to identify the source of the bullets during the attack, and the confusion added more minutes to their lengthy response. But the revised timeline shows officers would have known where Paddock was before the mass shooting even started.

    Did Campos call 911? What happened during those six minutes?

    Much of Campos's story and background remains a mystery.

    Campos's co-worker Liliana Rodriguez started a GoFundMe account for him on October 3, explaining that he'd been shot while on "random patrol" and it could have been "anyone of us."

    "Funds will be used to provide relief and financial support for him while he gets back on his feet," Rodriguez's online petition says. "This is a young man that I work with day in and day out. Any financial support would be appreciated for the time he would need to recover."

    A picture of Campos wasn't displayed as part of the fund because Rodriguez indicated that "due to privacy from the media we do not feel comfortable publishing a photo."

    During a brief phone conversation with ABC News, Campos said, "I'm fine...I was just doing my job."

    Calls and text messages to Campos, Rodriguez and others who might know him were not immediately returned.

    On Tuesday, Las Vegas Metro Police Undersheriff Kevin McMahill explained more about Campos's actions the night of the shooting, helping fill in some of what happened ahead of the attack.

    He told KNPR, a local NPR affiliate, that Campos went up to the 32nd floor to investigate a door alarm. While on the 32nd floor, he found that a stairwell door was jammed and radioed down to maintenance.

    Campos heard a drilling sound and thought it was odd. A maintenance worker came up to the 32nd floor. As the pair started talking, Paddock began firing through the door of his room, first with a single-fire gun and then with a rapid-fire rifle.

    Police have said that when Campos radioed what happened, it helped them track where Paddock was holed up. McMahill didn’t elaborate on the six minutes or why police found it difficult to locate Paddock when, according to the new timeline, they had his location minutes before the assault started.

    “I understand why people are frustrated with this because we are as well,” McMahill told KNPR.
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    This is going to give those false flag nutters years of analysis.
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    Zappos offers to cover funeral cost for all 58 mass shooting victims

    Kel Dansby1:58 PM, Oct 12, 2017
    1:58 PM, Oct 12, 2017

    Las Vegas-based online retailer Zappos is offering to cover the cost of the funerals for all 58 victims that died in the Route 91 mass shooting.
    This comes after Zappos has already pledged to match up to $1 million dollars donated to their fundraiser.

    Zappos made Las Vegas their home several years ago and they're showing that they will go above and beyond the call of duty to help victims gain peace after this tragedy.

    source: Zappos offers to cover funeral cost for all 58 mass shooting victims - Las Vegas

    The zappos CEO is pretty cool.
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    Something that really got to me about this was all the fundraising...which had to be done for all of these victims medical bills. Because here in 'Murica if someone wounds you while exercising their 2nd amendment rights, you get to pay for your hospital stay. Better hope you have good insurance.

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    ^ And then some people use that as "proof" that healthcare system is fine, because "charity" will cover medical expenses for those who can't pay.

    What really got to me was the fundraiser set up on GoFundMe within the hour of the tragedy, which everyone's been donating to to "help" the Las Vegas victims without reading the fine print. That money is only going towards rehabilitating Vegas' image by way of giving "high roller" treatment to victims' families who are coming to Vegas, and doesn't go towards medical bills or the victims themselves at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    Something that really got to me about this was all the fundraising...which had to be done for all of these victims medical bills. Because here in 'Murica if someone wounds you while exercising their 2nd amendment rights, you get to pay for your hospital stay. Better hope you have good insurance.

    Are you serious? That's unbelievable. Are victims of crime eligible for some kind of compensation from the government?
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    There are some, but they have limits of anywhere from 10,000 to 100,000. Massive trauma from gunshot wounds or getting trampled would run much more in costs of medical care. And in a crowd of that size there must have been loads of people without any insurance/or complete shit insurance .
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