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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarzy View Post
    I feel so bad for the reporter's family and friends as that footage is awful and screenshots of her reaction are everywhere. Horrid.
    From a Washington Post interview with the father:

    “Initially, we had some hope, but I knew in my heart of hearts,” Andy Parker, 62, said in an interview with The Washington Post. “Alison would have called me immediately to say she was okay.”
    About an hour after the 24-year-old television reporter was gunned down while doing a live interview outside a shopping center in southwest Virginia, a senior manager at the CBS affiliate station called her family to say she had been killed by a disgruntled former co-worker.
    “My grief is unbearable,” said her father, a banking industry recruiter from Martinsville, Va. “Is this real? Am I going to wake up? I am crying my eyes out. I don’t know if there’s anybody in this world or another father who could be more proud of their daughter.”

    He was horrified to learn that the gunman, Vester L. Flanagan II, a 41-year-old former colleague at the TV station, had recorded the shooting and posted video online.
    “It’s like showing those beheadings,” he said. “I am not going to watch it. I can’t watch it. I can’t watch any news. All it would do is rip out my heart further than it already it is.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by CornFlakegrl View Post
    I don't know the stats but I thought men commit murder many times more than woman? I took Manx's comment to mean men murder more, not that they are more mentally ill.
    Yes, that's what I meant. These mass/multiple shooters are always men.
    I was also trying to say that not all of these guys are mentally ill in the way we generally conceive mental illness.
    That is, they don't all have persistent thought or mood disorders, aren't delusional or hallucinating. Instead, they have personality disorders...because of the way they're wired, they fall into negative patterns of behavior and thinking.
    Some have antisocial personality disorder. In older parlance, they'd be called fucking assholes....angry, violent, abusive.
    With disordered women, they turn that inward, being self-destructive or hurting their families. Men turn their aggression outwards onto the world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManxMouse View Post
    Yes, that's what I meant. These mass/multiple shooters are always men.
    I was also trying to say that not all of these guys are mentally ill in the way we generally conceive mental illness.
    That is, they don't all have persistent thought or mood disorders, aren't delusional or hallucinating. Instead, they have personality disorders...because of the way they're wired, they fall into negative patterns of behavior and thinking.
    Some have antisocial personality disorder. In older parlance, they'd be called fucking assholes....angry, violent, abusive.
    With disordered women, they turn that inward, being self-destructive or hurting their families. Men turn their aggression outwards onto the world.
    Here is a pretty authoritative list. VERY, very, few women on it. Although, there were a couple I never heard of - like Olga Hepnarova, who mowed down and killed 8 people after sending a manifesto to two newspapers.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers
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    yes, and I meant to include the obligatory disclaimer that I was speaking in generalities because you'll always find outliers.
    The women killers are very interesting. We've had a couple of death row gals in my state who are pretty horrifying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brookie View Post
    This is so fucking disturbing on so many levels. How did he know where these people were going to be? I've read he faxed something to their newsroom this morning stating (paraphrasing), "I'm going to have a story for you this morning", then he videoed himself shooting them, then HE posted the video to the internet. I work at a newspaper and the thought of anyone walking up to someone I know here and picking them off at close range creeps me the hell out.
    The station ran a promo of a live shot coming up with Alison and named the spot where she was going to be at the top of the broadcast. He had plenty of time to get to the location.

    If the killer had stayed on Interstate 81 he would have had open road for miles. He turned off onto a road with a lot of construction. He would have been stopped for sure. There were cops everywhere yesterday morning. I was wondering what was going on because there was a cop every couple of miles on my route to work. He killed himself a few miles from my house.
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    We can't really address gun laws without first fixing the way we treat mental illness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellatheball View Post
    We can't really address gun laws without first fixing the way we treat mental illness.
    Yeah, I do think that both need to be changed, severely. This guy could have gotten a gun with no problem because he had no criminal record.

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    I just mean so many of these shooters are found to be mentally ill (not a huge stretch). As a country, we have such limited resources to help those who need it before they wind up doing something stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellatheball View Post
    I just mean so many of these shooters are found to be mentally ill (not a huge stretch). As a country, we have such limited resources to help those who need it before they wind up doing something stupid.

    Agreed but they can do a lot less damage with a knife then with a gun. If the gunman had attacked with a knife then maybe one would have been death and the others would have had time to run. Also even if the others would have been carrying a gun, they still would have been dead.
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    The Daily Mirror reports that his condo was filled with cat waste, gay porn and unwashed sex toys. I don't want to know any more.
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    Poor cat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BITTER View Post
    The Daily Mirror reports that his condo was filled with cat waste, gay porn and unwashed sex toys. I don't want to know any more.
    disgusting! i didn't want to know about any of that!

    ETA: pics of his house at the link http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...shots-HIM.html
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    can't post pics because my computer's broken and i'm stupid

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    I finally got around to reading some excerpts of the manifesto. Fuck that racist piece of shit. I'm glad he's dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellatheball View Post
    I just mean so many of these shooters are found to be mentally ill (not a huge stretch). As a country, we have such limited resources to help those who need it before they wind up doing something stupid.

    One of the things that really upsets me with politicians is that they claim that gun violence isn't about guns but mental illness. Then when they have the opportunity to vote to add more money for mental health programs but they don't do it, in fact they tried to withdraw funding from the ACA three times and that program gives mental health access to people without any insurance. So they don't care about getting rid of guns but don't want to fund the programs to help with mental health either. It's really frustrating because nothing changes.
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