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    I would say she's nuts, too. Does she have any children that are alive?

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    Three, apparently normal, living kids. One teen and two older ones.

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    She certainly took a strong stand against abortion. No matter what.
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    Looking at the timeline:

    1994 - has her first surviving child (the 20-year-old who was living in the home)
    1996 - has her second surviving child (the 18-year-old, who was living in the home)
    1996 - first of the children who were killed after birth is born
    2001 - has her third surviving child (the 13-year-old, who was living in the home)
    2005 - husband sentenced to jail for 9 years for producing meth
    2006 - starts incarceration, husband; serves 8 years
    2006 - last of the children who were killed after birth is born
    2011 - she is kicked out of the home by the husband's parents after they find out she is cheating on him
    2011 - an aunt moves into the house to take care of the kids now that neither parent is there
    2014 - husband completes incarceration and returns home; discovers boxes in garage, supposedly

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    Maybe birth control made her fat so she couldn't take it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    Three, apparently normal, living kids. One teen and two older ones.

    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    Looking at the timeline:

    1994 - has her first surviving child (the 20-year-old who was living in the home)
    1996 - has her second surviving child (the 18-year-old, who was living in the home)
    1996 - first of the children who were killed after birth is born
    2001 - has her third surviving child (the 13-year-old, who was living in the home)
    2005 - husband sentenced to jail for 9 years for producing meth
    2006 - starts incarceration, husband; serves 8 years
    2006 - last of the children who were killed after birth is born
    2011 - she is kicked out of the home by the husband's parents after they find out she is cheating on him
    2011 - an aunt moves into the house to take care of the kids now that neither parent is there
    2014 - husband completes incarceration and returns home; discovers boxes in garage, supposedly
    Interesting. She had two kids and let them live. Had one and killed it. Had another and let it live and killed all the rest.

    Must have been an interesting household.

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    Police: Utah mom admitted to killing her 6 babies

    PLEASANT GROVE, Utah (AP) Megan Huntsman was clear about what she did with six of her newborn babies.

    Huntsman, 39, told police she either strangled or suffocated them immediately after they were born. She wrapped their bodies in a towel or a shirt, put them in plastic bags and then packed them inside boxes in the garage of her home south of Salt Lake City.

    What's not clear is why. A day after her arrest on charges of killing her six babies, investigators and her neighbors puzzled over the grisly discovery, including how she could have concealed a half-dozen pregnancies over a 10-year period.

    "How can you have a baby and not have evidence and other people know?" asked neighbor SanDee Wall. "You can't plan when a baby is going to come. Just the thought of somebody putting a baby into a box is a heartbreaker."

    Huntsman, who was arrested Sunday on six counts of murder, was ordered held on $6 million bail $1 million for each baby. The remains of a seventh baby police found appears to have been stillborn, authorities said.

    According to a probable cause statement released by police Monday, Huntsman said she gave birth to at least seven babies between 1996 and 2006 at her former home in Pleasant Grove, a leafy, sleepy town about 35 miles south of Salt Lake City.

    All but one of the babies was born alive, she said. During the interview with police, she was unemotional and matter of fact, according to Pleasant Grove police Lt. Britt Smith.

    Her estranged husband, Darren West, made the discovery Saturday with fellow family members while cleaning out the garage of the house, which is owned by his parents. He called Huntsman, who admitted to him it was her baby, according to court documents.

    West called police, who then found the bodies in the garage.

    Investigators believe Huntsman is the mother of them all based on what she has told them but have ordered DNA tests to make sure that's the case. They don't know who the babies' fathers are. It could take weeks to get the results, Utah County Attorney Jeff Buhman said.

    Huntsman's three daughters one teenager and two young adults also lived in the house.

    Investigators believe West and Huntsman were together when the babies were born, but don't believe he was aware of the killings. Buhman said Huntsman is the principle suspect, but didn't rule out more arrests as the investigation continues.

    Police have talked with West as they investigate his level of knowledge and involvement in the deaths, Smith said. He was living in the house during the decade that authorities believe Huntsman had killed the babies, Smith said.

    He's been cooperative, and was devastated by the discovery, he said.

    Smith said the three daughters have been interviewed, but he declined to discuss what they said.

    West pleaded guilty in federal court in 2005 to two counts of possessing chemicals intended to be used in manufacturing methamphetamine, according to court records. In August 2006, he was sentenced to 9 years in prison, but appealed three times.

    West was released from a federal prison in California in January and transferred to a halfway house in Salt Lake City, said Chris Burke, spokesman for the Federal Bureau of Prisons.

    During the Drug Enforcement Administration investigation in 2005, agents stopped by the house, spoke with Huntsman and looked around but it's unknown how extensive the search was.

    As he maintained his innocence, Huntsman wrote a letter asking a federal judge to consider leniency at sentencing.

    "Darren is a remarkable man, husband, brother, son, son-in-law, friend and father of our three beautiful daughters," she wrote, continuing, "Please we need this guy to keep our family together."

    Neighbor Sharon Chipman said the couple married young, and Huntsman never worked except for a short stint at a grocery store.

    The three daughters who were living in the house were good young women who have turned out remarkably well considering their father has been in prison, Chipman and Wall said.

    West's parents have played an influential role in their upbringing, especially the youngest, who is still in junior high.

    Wall said she's puzzled about why Huntsman would have killed the babies, especially considering her youngest daughter, now a young teen, was born during the decade Huntsman told authorities she killed the other babies.

    "Why was one of them saved?" Wall said.

    Neighbors said they noticed Huntsman's weight fluctuated over the years, with her toggling between baggy and tight clothes, but they didn't realize she was pregnant.

    Cheryl Meyer, a psychology professor at Ohio's Wright State University, said some women who kill their children hide or deny her pregnancy and then dispose of the baby after it's born. Meyer said "concealers" are typically teenagers who do not repeat the act.

    "These are usually girls who are 17, get pregnant, become scared to death and don't want to tell their parents," said Meyer, who has written about mothers who kill their children. "They're not 30-year-old women who can go have an abortion."

    To combat this, states, including Utah, have safe haven laws that allow women to drop off unwanted newborns to authorities with no questions asked. The mother can remain anonymous as long as the child has not been subject to abuse or neglect.

    In coming days, defense attorneys for Huntsman are likely to closely examine her background to search for any evidence of mental illness or a family history that would help explain the alleged killings, said George Parnham, who represented Andrea Yates, the Texas woman who drowned her five children in her bathtub in 2001.

    Defense attorneys also will try to determine whether Huntsman sought an abortion and if she told anyone about her pregnancies all in hopes of understanding actions that otherwise appear incomprehensible, Parnham said.

    "You start off with the very nature of what happened. Is there a rational motive?" he said.
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    Despicable.
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    Her acts are horrible, but there is something seriously wrong with the story here. She was pregnant 10 times in 12 years and her husband and his family never noticed, by the end she had 12 year old daughter and she didn't notice? There's a level of desperation here that makes me so very sad for her. No medical help in all that time? She had no complications with that much stress on her body? She delivered the babies herself?
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    ^^^^
    i know. i have so many questions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    ^^^^
    i know. i have so many questions.
    1. Like how does a person who couldn't hold a job as a store clerk have the talent to be their own midwife - six times?

    2. How does the guy who sees you naked every day from 1996 to 2006 not notice you are 9 months pregnant - on six separate occasions?

    3. If the husband wasn't involved, then why do all of the muders seem to stop the year he was incarcerated?

    4. How do your kids not notice what's going on?

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    She's got to be crazy. If what she did to those babies isn't proof enough, what she did to herself confirms it. Who the fuck would do that to their vagina? I too was a bit peeved that a baby was my only reward for labor, especially when I first saw the little sprogs, but I knew not to underestimate how lucky I was that they arrived safely. I brought them into this world so they could live in it. And one day when they're successful adults, they can properly thank me for my efforts.

    No sane person would go through that shit seven times without expecting a person out of the deal. Even if it's not for them. Making people is still the goal.
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    Not one to think a little deeper are you?
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    ^^^^ Eh, I figure the story is deep enough already. Clearly she's sick, and it's sad. But the issues that drove her to this and that made the people in her life willfully ignore her behavior only make it more tragic, IMO. My post wasn't meant to minimize the complexity of her actions, just to point out the slightly morbid absurdity of giving birth that many times with no payoff. Of course I realize the payoff for her was probably the act of murdering those children, but that seemed too dark to comment on.

    In any case, I always find myself wanting to assume people who do these things are crazy. It's easier to swallow that way.
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    I would think deeper, but I noticed that there were no lifeguards on duty.

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