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    Maybe I have a better moral compass that I give myself credit for, but this is what I have to say.

    I just can't imagine killing someone, even accidentally, and try to get out of it. I would just feel too much guilt and shame, to even be able to function, let alone go through a delayed trial.
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    I have a horrible feeling he's going to get away with it. Of course he did it and he doesn't deny it. But I think there's too many inconsistencies, police bungling, vested interests for the judge to be able to say beyond reasonable doubt that it was,cold blooded murder. He already admits to accidental homicide (or whatever the equivalent is in SA) so he'll have to cop some kind of punishment but I don't think it will be any serious time in jail. He's a living national treasure and still has a lot of support, especially from the boer community so there's a delicate racial balancing act here too. A black female judge sending "our boy" Oscar down would stir up a huge hornets nest. Forget the kumbaya, there's still a LOT of simmering racial tension (both sides) in South Africa and this could trigger some nasty repercussions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by A*O View Post
    I have a horrible feeling he's going to get away with it. Of course he did it and he doesn't deny it. But I think there's too many inconsistencies, police bungling, vested interests for the judge to be able to say beyond reasonable doubt that it was,cold blooded murder. He already admits to accidental homicide (or whatever the equivalent is in SA) so he'll have to cop some kind of punishment but I don't think it will be any serious time in jail. He's a living national treasure and still has a lot of support, especially from the boer community so there's a delicate racial balancing act here too. A black female judge sending "our boy" Oscar down would stir up a huge hornets nest. Forget the kumbaya, there's still a LOT of simmering racial tension (both sides) in South Africa and this could trigger some nasty repercussions.
    I don't want to sound xenophobic or anything, but I really don't "get" South Africa. I have a friend that lives there, and he would tell me the current going-on's, and my brain just couldn't compute. That's why I haven't got too invested in this case, because my mind just can't wrap around all the shit that goes on there.

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    Yeah, everyone dances around it but it's still a very fragile society and the racial and tribal undercurrents run strong. The crime rate is horrendous and there is endemic corruption at all levels. Welcome to Africa. Nobody wants to see a return to the oppressive apartheid regime but many white (and some black) South Africans will secretly admit they miss the social stability and prosperity those years brought.

    We know several South African families who have migrated to Oz over the last 10 years and all of them say the "outside" world has no idea how bad things are there. The whole Nelson Mandela thing was great PR and spin for a "new" South Africa of hope, inclusion and democracy, but if you scratch the surface the same political, social and racial tensions are still very much an issue.
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    What does any of that have to do with a white man killing his white girlfriend?
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    If he's convicted by a black female judge there will be elements who will make it a racial issue, not a justice one. She specialises in domestic violence cases which could go for/against him. It's a shame there's no jury involved. The outcome may be the same but I'd be more comfortable having 12 decide than only one. There's a LOT riding on this case and I don't envy the judge and the pressure she must be under to deliver a fair and just verdict. Whichever way it goes someone's going to be very unhappy. The spectre of OJs trial is hanging over this one.
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    He's as guilty as sin but I'm 99.9% sure he'll get away with it. The only thing that gives me pause to think otherwise is that the judge has allowed TV cameras in. There's a part of me hoping that SA will see this as a way to demonstrate to the rest of the world that the country is no longer corrupt. Silly, I know but here's hoping
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    I think the cameras have probably helped him. Poor distraught Oscar sitting in the dock sobbing and puking..... Both lawyers have been shamelessly grandstanding throughout. I predict a conviction for accidental homicide and a token, even non-custodial sentence. He will be hailed as a hero by some sections of society and become a total pariah in others, just like OJ. Either way his career is over.
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    Did anyone see the Documentary on Oscar last night? Though I think it was only aired in Australia.
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    As AO mentioned, the outcome will be similar to the OJ case.

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    I was watching the Today show, and they mentioned that Oscar Pistorius had gotten into an altercation at a nightclub the night before; my first thought was, he's in the middle of a freakin' murder trial, what the hell is he doing at a nightclub?!?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moongirl View Post
    I was watching the Today show, and they mentioned that Oscar Pistorius had gotten into an altercation at a nightclub the night before; my first thought was, he's in the middle of a freakin' murder trial, what the hell is he doing at a nightclub?!?
    maybe he's looking for the "real killer," like OJ did on the golf courses. At least OJ ended up where he belongs........hopefully Oscar will too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moongirl View Post
    I was watching the Today show, and they mentioned that Oscar Pistorius had gotten into an altercation at a nightclub the night before; my first thought was, he's in the middle of a freakin' murder trial, what the hell is he doing at a nightclub?!?
    I know. I saw that. Party on. Disgraceful.
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    Oscar Pistorius got into bar fight because he's in 'emotional pain,' feels lonely: family

    The Olympian's family called his decision to visit the bar while his trial is on a break an 'ill-considered' move and said he's had trouble coping with the situation. His trial is set to resume in August.

    BY Meg Wagner
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    Wednesday, July 16, 2014, 8:20 AM

    Oscar Pistorius may be making unwise choices — like getting into a fight at a nightclub — because he's lonely, his family says.
    The 27-year-old South African runner, who is on trial for allegedly murdering his girlfriend on Valentine's Day 2013, is having trouble coping with the situation and it may have caused him to act out, the Pistorius family said. The athlete was thrown out of bar over the weekend after brawling with another patron.
    Leo Pistorius, the Paralympian 's uncle, released a statement for the family Tuesday.
    "Those of us closest to him have been witness to his escalating sense of loneliness and alienation," the family wrote.
    They called his decision to go to the bar while his trial is on break "ill-considered."
    "We do however believe that Oscar is grappling with an extreme level of emotional pain that is manifesting itself in some of his recent unwise actions," the statement continued.
    While the family admitted that the incident happened, they said Jared Mortimer, the other man in the bar brawl, was the aggressor — not the victim.
    Mortimer approached Pistorius to grill him on the trial, the family wrote, calling him a "man peddling untruths designed for maximum attention and maximum damage."
    But Mortimer's story is different: He claimed Pistorius was drunk and approached him, South Africa’s Independent Online reported.


    Mortimer said he had been in an argument with one of the runner's friends a few years ago and Pistorious apparently came over to confront him about it, he said.
    Mortimer said the Olympian poked him in the chest. When Pistorius got too close, Mortimer pushed him back, but Pistorius stumbled on a chair and fell to the ground, he said.
    Mortimer also claimed the athlete insulted South Africa's President Jacob Zuma and his family during the bar brawl.
    Pistorius' family called that a lie.
    "Oscar was at school with one of President Zuma's sons and liked him a lot," his uncle wrote. "Oscar also has great appreciation of President's Zuma's extraordinary support of the Paralympians."
    Pistorius visited the nightclub while his trial is on break. Earlier this year, the athlete told the court that he accidentally shot his girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp, in 2013 because he thought she was a home intruder. Prosecutors maintained Pistorius intentionally murdered her.
    The trial is set to resume in August.


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    I have a horrible feeling that even if he's convicted he'll get a lighter sentence, and I can't help but feel that he's going to hurt someone else as soon as he gets out. The man lives on a hair trigger of rage and entitlement.
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    "recent unwise actions", his biggest probably murdering his gf, just saying
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