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    Quote Originally Posted by Tati View Post
    I don't think "don't rape" is too high a standard to hold anyone to.
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    Greys I was actually thinking of you when I posted. I know you don't let your boys run your house, and the world, just because they play sports. I'm thrilled that your school took action when they boys were inappropriate.

    I can't wrap my mind around the mindset of the parents who just sat back and allowed their young sons, and obviously daughters too, stay out all night knowing they were drinking. I knew my daughter was drinking in high school but we had firm rules in place. She was told that I did not apprive and that if she got caught she knew there would be hell to pay. That kept her from getting totally shit faced because she knew I would be up when she walked in the door, and she had a curfew. She knew better than to ever ask me to buy her alcohol. But the parents of some her friends were happy to do so. It sounds like these kids have been raised to believe that it is acceptable to get drunk, behave poorly, and that the girls of the town are there to serve them. I am sad that the girls obviously feel that it their role too. It's sad that Richardson's father was not in his life but I respect that he is there now and owning his failure to parent his son. It spoke volumes that he did approach the victim and her family to apologize. Mays made no attempt to apologize.

    I'm also guessing that we will not see a case filed where a young boy gets drunk, and then has a drunk girl come on to him and touch him inappropriately leading to sex that he did not initiate or even maybe want, but was too drunk to say no.
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    When I was a freshman in college, I took a summer trip with my parents down to a good friend's house in Arkansas. The friend was divorced (and rich) with three daughters. Two had already graduated college and moved out, but there was one who as still about 16 and in high school. As soon as we arrived, we saw there was this huge stash of alcohol sitting on the grass - every type of pre-mixed drink you could think of, in cans and bottles. One of my parents asked about it, and the mom replied, "Oh, that's T's - she and her friends are going to have a party down on the lake." There are some really permissive parents out there who don't seem to set any boundaries for their kids, and it goes across all income and educational levels. You can't assume anybody has their act together.

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    I went to an affluent high school in Texas and the moms would try to outdo each other with who could have the best parties for their kids. It was like some sick competition. They'd rent party buses, limos, and hotel suites and provide alcohol. Think Amy Poehler's "I'm a cool mom!" character in Mean Girls. I knew many moms exactly like that.

    Not only did they know their kids were drinking, they encouraged it. Anything to make sure their child was part of the "popular" crowd. Anyone who dared to criticize their kids' behavior or the parents' enabling was berated and then shunned.

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    Wasn't the girl drugged? Or have I made that up? I got the impression she wasn't just blind drunk, but she'd been drugged (as well as having one too many).
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    I don't know about drugs. I do know that this is the first case I have ever read where the charges reported as digitizing the victim. I've seen digital penetration but...
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    Yes, the girl was apparently not drinking, but had been given the date rape drug.
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    If they drugged her they should have gotten 20 years. Little bastards.
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    I swear I read that,too,Levitt.
    This stuff starts when they are 5. My son was taught to protect and defend the helpless and that he was expected to do just that. He always has. He would have known what to do and stepped up. These boys were never taught to think of anyone but themselves. I think they really are shocked that this is not viewed as a cute naughty thing.
    They took advantage of a comatose girl and thought that was funny. I don't care how drunk you are that crossed all lines. We aren't talking about streaking down the street and mooning neighbors-we are talking about rape on a girl that was lucky to have lived. They had no reguard for her as a human being they should have escorted to her parents door.
    They are bigger. They are stronger. They should have been her protectors. They should have known that drunk or sober.
    I find this impossible to forgive. I wouldn't trust them in 30 more years.
    The cry baby in the courtroom? I'd like to see him stripped naked, ravenged and have it plastered all over the internet for the next century. See how brave his ass would be then. Maybe their parents tried and failed to knock out some of the entitled swagger,I don't know. But judging how they were allowed to run wild all night at 16 I have serious doubts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by levitt View Post
    Wasn't the girl drugged? Or have I made that up? I got the impression she wasn't just blind drunk, but she'd been drugged (as well as having one too many).

    One of the articles in this thread says she was drugged but I'm not sure if that came out as fact in court.

    And I agree with everyone's responses re: double standard for boys v. girls being drunk. First, any boy or girl who commits a crime while drunk should get their due. Secondly, getting drunk and not protecting yourself is not the same as getting drunk and acting like a violent animal who then hurts another. We don't give a pass to all drunk behaviour. Think about the adults who don't get a pass for being drunk... Mel Gibson comes to mind. He goes into an alcoholic rage and whatever venom comes out of his mouth, he is hated forever. No pass. Why? Because we assume that poison is in him and being drunk just dropped his defenses and revealed it.

    I feel the same away about these boys. They didn't do this because they were drunk, they did it because they are fucked up.
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    No one deserves to be abused or taken advantage of in any way because they're drunk, male or female. But I also think that at 16, you should pay for your crimes but you should also be given a shot at rehabilitation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    No one deserves to be abused or taken advantage of in any way because they're drunk, male or female. But I also think that at 16, you should pay for your crimes but you should also be given a shot at rehabilitation.


    It's one hell of a long rehabilitation with these boys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitetigeress View Post
    It's one hell of a long rehabilitation with these boys.
    I suggest boot camp style with Bubba as a bunkmate. Scratch that... several Bubbas.
    Well, rehabilitating kids not to rape by having them raped is an interesting way of looking at it. I think I'd rather they got a twenty year sentence than a dose of their own medicine in this case. I don't think having a 16 year old raped and letting them out of jail in a year will help things too much.

    I think with sports there can be two extremes. At one extreme you have the kids who think they can do and say anything they want without consequence, like what happened here. At the other extreme, you've got the kids who find structure and focus and learn responsibility through sports. But in the end, which way it goes depends on the environment the parents and schools are providing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whitetigeress View Post
    It's one hell of a long rehabilitation with these boys.
    I suggest boot camp style with Bubba as a bunkmate. Scratch that... several Bubbas.
    Yeah i'm sure rape would ensure they come out of prison better people than they went in...
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    I don't think underage drinking is the issue here. It's the gross sense of arrogant entitlement these sports "heros" develop via indulgent parents living vicariously through their kids' sporting achievements and the coaches/entourage who bask in the reflected glory. The kids (some of whom aren't very bright) learn that there won't be any consequences to their bad judgment and actions just because they can kick/throw a ball. And the courts are now endorsing it by handing down these laughable sentences. 5 years on the front line in Afghanistan might learn 'em.
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