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    Quote Originally Posted by Sojiita View Post
    Yeah..probably could not afford it. The damn father should have had some more cheating schemes up his sleeves so they could have afforded it. Poor planning ftl.
    I agree, she probably couldn't afford the tuition in the first place. But maybe she could've moved in with her dad for real, pooled their money and he wouldn't have had to defraud the system too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie View Post
    I agree, she probably couldn't afford the tuition in the first place. But maybe she could've moved in with her dad for real, pooled their money and he wouldn't have had to defraud the system too.
    Yeah, they do not sound like he brightest bunch I will admit. And this is Ohio, remember. Duh-hio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    That's just it, we're talking about people who cannot afford to live in the better school districts. so their kids are forced to go to low-performing and/or dangerous schools.
    In PA, to get the max financial support from the state you have to have low income housing in the district. We have 2 public housing units in the district as well as an area that is entry level housing - twins for under 250k. There are also apartments in old homes that can be rented for 800-1000 per month. If they want to live here, there are options.
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    Do you have any idea what the wait list is for Section 8 or public housing? Its years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    In PA, to get the max financial support from the state you have to have low income housing in the district. We have 2 public housing units in the district as well as an area that is entry level housing - twins for under 250k. There are also apartments in old homes that can be rented for 800-1000 per month. If they want to live here, there are options.
    A duplex for under 250K(which means it must be just under that) and apartments for 800-1000 per month is entry?

    I guess part of it is that certain areas of the country are just more expensive overall. What general part of PA are you in? I would expect the closer to Philly, the ^^^ the costs.

    800-1000 is average here, not entry level, imo. But this is a hellish area, so that must be part of it as well.

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    call me a socialist but i think all money for public schools should be redistributed equally, regardless of where it came from, thereby ensuring that all public schools are the same quality.
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    I agree with that. Make them all equal thus eliminating problems like this.
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    It's not just money though. In this case the school district her kids were zoned for actually spends more per pupil than the district where she sent them :

    Copley's annual per-pupil expenditure is $9,928 (only $2,071 coming from the state), while Akron's is $13,200 ($6,601 from the state).
    Many of the things that make for a bad/unsafe school are social, and that's an issue that few want to face, because it's a lot more complicated to solve than writing a check.
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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    It's not just money though. In this case the school district her kids were zoned for actually spends more per pupil than the district where she sent them :



    Many of the things that make for a bad/unsafe school are social, and that's an issue that few want to face, because it's a lot more complicated to solve than writing a check.
    I agree-it is not just money. Although my immediate reaction is to agree with Mel and Sput. Actually some districts with other 'issues' need more money for a number of reasons.

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    Greys - I help clients get set up for section 8 housing all the time and it doesn't take much here. It is at the county level. Once they have their cert they can go to any landlord and ask if they will accept the certificate. The county cert tells them how many bedrooms they can get and how much they will pay towards the housing.

    Soj - yes I am in the Main Line section, a burb of Philly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    Greys - I help clients get set up for section 8 housing all the time and it doesn't take much here. It is at the county level. Once they have their cert they can go to any landlord and ask if they will accept the certificate. The county cert tells them how many bedrooms they can get and how much they will pay towards the housing.

    Soj - yes I am in the Main Line section, a burb of Philly.
    Well that explains it! lol. Can I come live in your garage or basement or something? I bet a garage apt. there would start at $1,500. All those uni's close by.. Doesn't that extend from the Merions up to Paoli or something like that? I think of that area as being loaded with $$$$$$ and fine old homes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    It's starting to sound like milking the system through fraud is a family thing.
    I agree. It's one thing to blame the system for its unfair rules, but sounds like these people sure know their way around the system.

    First, dad lies about his marital status and wife's income so he can collect disability, public assistance and Medicaid. He assists his daughter by filing false court documents (legal guardianship?) in the school issue, while the daughter claims the kids live with her dad for the school residency, yet says the kids live with her to get a break on her public housing. Kinda makes you wonder what other agencies they're scamming.

    I know someone who decided to move from our county to an area with cheaper housing and taxes. The school system was not so great, so she kept her son in his old school, and once they caught up with her and expelled him, she went to a family member, who filed for legal guardianship of the kid and got him back in. I was kinda shocked they were able to get away with it.

    So bottom line, she gets the advantage of lower housing costs, lower property taxes, and her kid gets the advantage of a better school district on somebody else's dime.

    IMO, she could've waited to move until her kid was out of high school, OR she could have paid for private school, but she decided to scam the system, just like this Ohio family was doing.
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    A similar case in upstate NY:


    Felony charges for woman accused of deliberately sending children to wrong school district

    RED HOOK — A Stanfordville woman is facing two felony charges for allegedly sending her two sons to schools in the Red Hook Central School District despite living in the Pine Plains school district, police said.

    Investigator Robert Torre, of the state police, said the arrest could be “the first of many” as police delve into other reports of out-of-district residents attending the Red Hook school district, and police will continue to investigate tips “one at a time.”

    Melissa Chapman, 36, who lives on Star Farm Way, is being charged with the felonies of grand larceny and falsifying business records, said Torre.

    The out-of-district tuition for her two sons would have been $20,948 at a rate of $10,474 “per pupil per year,” said Torre.

    Chapman had claimed her residence as the home of “friends of a friend,” said Torre. Meanwhile, Chapman’s daughter was attending the Pine Plains school district’s Cold Springs Elementary School in Stanford.

    “For whatever reason,” Chapman did not want her sons to attend Stissing Mountain High School in the Pine Plains district, said Torre.

    Chapman, who had been treasurer of the Cold Spring Elementary School’s Parent Teacher Association, had been arrested in September and charged with the felonies of grand larceny and forgery on accusations she stole about $3,000 from the PTA, police said.

    Police said that is when they were tipped off about the potential residency issue. When they checked with the district, police said school officials told them they were already looking into it and asked police to investigate.

    Police said Chapman was arrested Nov. 1 and was released on her own recognizance to later appear in Red Hook Town Court.

    Felony charges for woman accused of deliberately sending children to wrong school district - DailyFreeman.com
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