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    Quote Originally Posted by celeb_2006 View Post
    Sure, some of her actions and words in the past may look unfavorable towards her overall character, and understandably cast suspicion, but that does NOT mean she was not sexually assaulted by this guy.

    Because a person lied in the past and whatnot, doesn't mean she couldn't have been raped in the present.
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    She lied about rape to get asylum it's not like she smeared someone with a rape allegation just for the fun of it. As for whether she had a freakout right away or after cleaning a few rooms, that doesn't discredit her to me. Neither do her shady connections, she is a poor immigrant, I'm sure those can be found if the police looks hard enough.
    oh, i agree. i'm just saying, this will definitely be used against her and it will weaken the prosecution's case because ultimately, with this type of case, it comes down to 'he said she said'.
    more than the lying on her asylum application, i think the phone call and the mysterious cash deposits are the most suspicious and will provide the most ammunition for the defence. i mean, if i was on a jury and saw both sides - the victim's statement, the dna evidence (which apparently isn't as cut and dry as was initially thought either), vs. the defence saying it was a consensual encounter and the fact that she cleaned another room, had that weird phone conversation, lied on her application, and was possibly motivated by the fact that this was a high-profile dude... with what we know about the case, i'm definitely seeing some reasonable doubt.
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    I can rationally take her credibility into question, as long as I take his into question as well. This is a man with a reputed history of violent, intimidating sexual encounters with numerous women. Colleagues, journalists, and now a hotel maid have made similar claims about him.

    Credibility goes both ways, but I tend to get a bit suspicious when a powerful man is accused and the accuser is smeared by the press- which has been happening all week here in the NY papers. It's been pretty vile.
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    Α 62 years old who spent the previous night at a top notch bordello is not physically able to rape next morning.I very much doubt he could get it up without a lot of assistance.Also i cant understand how a man could force an able 30 yo woman to a blowjob.Dude you got teeth,use them!
    That man might be an asshole,but he is not stupid.No way he would risk everything to rape an x woman.
    looks like Sarko is busted.No Carla baby will give him the elections.
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    there's no way strauss-kahn will be candidate at the next elections. even if he is cleared in this case, he still has the case in france to deal with, not to mention what this will do to his image and credibility.
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    well,i ve heard the top men and women of his party,they seemed very optimistic and sure he will make it.
    I do not think his political carreer is destroyed beyond repair,not in France anyway.
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    if he's cleared i don't think it will be over for him politically either, in the long term. but for now, and for this next election, i don't think the socialist would take a chance on strauss-kahn. they're going to need all the help they can get defeating the dwarf (and i'm not sure they can) and a just-cleared, disgraced, accused rapist isn't going to cut it
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    Μy french friends call Sarkozy *Napoleon nouveux*lol.
    I dont care either way,They both are friendly to Greece.
    From what i ve heard and read,French people didnt like to see him dragged handicuffed and they dont believe he raped the maid.Also they hate the way American justce system handled things.
    Ah,we will see,french are a *laissez faire* people after all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by effie2 View Post
    Α 62 years old who spent the previous night at a top notch bordello is not physically able to rape next morning.I very much doubt he could get it up without a lot of assistance.Also i cant understand how a man could force an able 30 yo woman to a blowjob.Dude you got teeth,use them!
    That man might be an asshole,but he is not stupid.No way he would risk everything to rape an x woman.
    looks like Sarko is busted.No Carla baby will give him the elections.

    They found and matched his DNA. The woman had bruises and a torn shoulder. How could that be consensual?
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    Default Recordings Prove DSK Accuser Never Said She Wanted Money

    As you may recall, when the sexual assault case against Dominique Strauss-Kahn began to unravel, reports attributed to a "well-placed law enforcement official" were published in the New York Times. The source claimed that prosecutors no longer considered Nafissatou Diallo a credible witness because, among other concerns, she said in a phone call to an incarcerated friend, "Don't worry, this guy has a lot of money. I know what I'm doing."

    The quote was used to paint Diallo as nothing but a sleazy criminal looking to make some money after a consensual encounter with a wealthy man.

    Now it turns out that's not what she said at all. Oops!

    Today Diallo and her lawyer, Kenneth Thompson, spent eight hours with prosecutors in their first meeting since authorities publicly declared that they doubt her credibility. The Associated Press reports that during the meeting, they listened to two tapes of Diallo's conversations with her friend, which were conducted in the West African language Fulani.

    Thompson says the recordings prove that in the first conversation, Diallo describes the attack and makes no mention of Strauss-Kahn's wealth. In the second conversation she does mention that he's "powerful and rich," but only to convey that her attacker is influential. She says, "I know what to do" much earlier in the discussion, meaning that she'd gone to the authorities and hired a lawyer.

    Now that it appears authorities fed the press incriminating lies about an alleged rape victim, they're feeling much less chatty. Today Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance told reporters they wouldn't discuss the case because:
    "This is a pending criminal case. We will have no comment on evidence, or on any meetings between prosecutors and witnesses, civil attorneys, or defense counsel."
    Diallo's next hearing date has been postponed from August 1 to August 23, and prosecutors may announce then whether or not they'll be going forward with the case. Thompson called prosecutors "gracious" for agreeing to Diallo's request to hear the recording, but that's just about the last word that comes to mind right now.




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    Quote Originally Posted by effie2 View Post
    Α 62 years old who spent the previous night at a top notch bordello is not physically able to rape next morning.I very much doubt he could get it up without a lot of assistance.Also i cant understand how a man could force an able 30 yo woman to a blowjob.Dude you got teeth,use them!
    That man might be an asshole,but he is not stupid.No way he would risk everything to rape an x woman.
    looks like Sarko is busted.No Carla baby will give him the elections.
    Sorry but my ex husband was able to perform all night at 62 and go again in the morning and he was dying at the time!

    Rapist often don't see it as rape or that they risk losing everything. They really believe that all women want to be over powered and want the "rape fantasy" and that the women really do want them.
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    shes exposed now as a maid/hooker

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    ^^Source?
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    check out new york post article july 3rd.

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    So you're saying its okay to rape a prostitute?
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    22 August 2011 Last updated at 22:54 GMTNew York prosecutors seek to drop Strauss-Kahn charges

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    Ms Diallo's lawyer, Kenneth Thompson, says his client has been denied justice



    Prosecutors have asked a judge to drop a sexual assault case against former IMF director Dominique Strauss-Kahn.
    They told a New York judge they were "no longer convinced of the defendant's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt".
    The case - based on an accusation by hotel maid Nafissatou Diallo - crumbled in recent weeks over questions about her credibility and motives.
    Mr Strauss-Kahn, 62, was arrested in May accused of sexually assaulting the 32-year-old African immigrant.
    In a filing in New York state court, prosecutors told a judge Ms Diallo had "not been been truthful on matters great and small."
    A judge is expected to rule on the motion on Tuesday.
    If the case is dropped Mr Strauss-Kahn would be free to return to France, though he also faces a civil lawsuit from Ms Diallo.
    Reasonable doubt In the court filing, prosecutors laid out in detail the case they had assembled against Dominique Strauss-Kahn - and the doubts they quickly began having.
    "The physical, scientific and other evidence establishes that the defendant engaged in a hurried sexual encounter with the complainant, but it does not independently establish her claim of a forcible, nonconsensual encounter," the filing said.
    Nafissatou Diallo, shown with her lawyer Kenneth Thompson, has defended her case in the media
    In addition, "evidence gathered during our post-indictment investigation severely undermined her reliability as a witness in this case".
    Within weeks the case was called into question as prosecutors said there were inconsistencies in Ms Diallo's accounts of her background and of the alleged assault.
    It was revealed that she had been recorded discussing the case with a jailed friend and appeared to refer to Mr Strauss-Kahn's wealth, which his supporters said pointed to a financial motive in her pursuit of the case.
    Prosecutors also said Ms Diallo had not been truthful in tax documents, nor on an asylum application form in her account of a gang rape she said she suffered back in Guinea.
    With the case resting entirely on the need to convince a jury that Ms Diallo was telling the truth, prosecutors were said that if they were unable to believe her story beyond a reasonable doubt, "we cannot ask a jury to do so".
    Speaking to reporters after a brief meeting with prosecutors at the court in Manhattan, Ms Diallo's lawyer Kenneth Thompson insisted that justice was not being done.
    "Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance has denied the right of a woman to get justice in a rape case. He has not only turned his back on this innocent victim but he has also turned his back on the forensic, medical and other physical evidence in this case.
    Mr Thompson filed a motion asking the judge to disqualify Mr Vance's office from the case and to appoint a special prosecutor, charging that Mr Vance's staff had mishandled the prosecution and had leaked information to the news media that damaged the case.
    Concerns Mr Strauss-Kahn's lawyers noted they had insisted on Mr Strauss-Kahn's innocence since the beginning of the case.
    "We also maintained that there were many reasons to believe that Mr Strauss-Kahn's accuser was not credible," William Taylor and Benjamin Brafman said in a statement.
    "Mr Strauss-Kahn and his family are grateful that the district attorney's office took our concerns seriously and concluded on its own that this case cannot proceed further."
    Authorities in Paris are still considering whether to press charges against him over an allegation by French writer Tristane Banon that he tried to rape her during a 2003 interview.
    An international media frenzy erupted on 14 May when Ms Diallo told police that Mr Strauss-Kahn had confronted her naked as she entered a suite at the Sofitel Hotel in New York City, chased her and forced her to perform oral sex.
    The 62-year-old IMF director was arrested that day on board an Air France jet and was later marched out of a New York police station in handcuffs.
    Authorities in New York said they had DNA evidence showing a sexual encounter occurred and that Ms Diallo's account of the alleged assault was credible.
    Mr Strauss-Kahn vehemently denied the accusation, and his lawyers said any sexual encounter between the two had been consensual.
    'Inconsistencies' Mr Strauss-Kahn had been touted as a leading contender to take on French President Nicolas Sarkozy in the April 2012 presidential elections.
    French novelist Tristane Banon claims she was attacked by Mr Strauss-Kahn
    After his arrest, he was forced out of his job as director of the International Monetary Fund and later placed under house detention.
    Mr Strauss-Kahn was later freed from his restrictive bail conditions.
    Ms Diallo then took the unusual step of giving media interviews, defending her allegations against Mr Strauss-Kahn.
    On 8 August, she filed a civil suit against him.
    An opinion poll released in July showed two-thirds of French people do not want Mr Strauss-Kahn to be a candidate in the 2012 elections.


    BBC News - New York prosecutors seek to drop Strauss-Kahn charges
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