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    he's sick with power, there's no sense to his logic b/c he's not like the rest of us, he's at a level that very few ever attain so behaving in this manner is perfectly not unacceptable to him and in his head.

    think Caligula or Nero for comparison

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    I found it aggravating to read today that this guy could have claimed diplomatic immunity if he was on official business.

    But since he booked the hotel and traveled on his own to meet his daughter, he could not use this defense.

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    good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by celeb_2006 View Post
    I found it aggravating to read today that this guy could have claimed diplomatic immunity if he was on official business.

    But since he booked the hotel and traveled on his own to meet his daughter, he could not use this defense.
    I'm not sure if you read this yet, but he is claiming to have an alibi - lunch with his daughter at the same time that the assault supposedly occurred. However, I think the police are claiming to have some forensic info that would trump his alibi.

    Hope he's not dragging his daughter into his web of craziness and deceit (assuming the charges are true).

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    Default daily dsk Dominique Strauss-Kahn’s Alleged Victim Was Visibly Traumatized

    The luxury-hotel maid who alleges she was sexually assaulted by Dominique Strauss-Kahn was found by a supervisor in a hallway where she hid after escaping from the former International Monetary Fund director's room. Hotel workers described her as traumatized, having difficulty speaking, and immediately concerned about pressing charges and losing her job, according to sources familiar with the investigation.

    The maid also repeatedly spit on the walls and floors of the suite in front of her hotel colleagues as she alleged that Strauss-Kahn locked her in his room and forced her into oral sex acts. That saliva is being tested for DNA markers and could become a crucial piece of evidence in the case, the sources said.

    The sources, who spoke only on condition of anonymity because of the ongoing investigation, provided The Daily Beast details of what happened inside New York City's Sofitel hotel in the hour between the alleged attack and when hotel security notified the police, a gap Strauss-Kahn's defense team is certain to question as the case proceeds in court. Strauss-Kahn's lawyers deny any wrongdoing on his part.

    The sources said the fact that it only took an hour for the hotel to calm the woman, get her to overcome her difficulty describing what happened, do a thorough interview and get police on scene for forensic testing helped make the case and apprehend the suspect before he fled the country.

    The sources said the maid, described as a West African immigrant in her 30s, had normally been assigned to clean a different floor in the hotel but recently volunteered to take the floor where Strauss-Kahn's luxury suite was after a colleague had gone on leave.

    The maid reported she entered Strauss-Kahn's room shortly before noon on Saturday, May 14, after a room-service employee had assured her the suite was empty, and she left the door open as she began cleaning, according to the sources.

    She told supervisors she was startled when Strauss-Kahn emerged naked from a bathroom. She said she apologized to him and turned away from him, but that the IMF chief grabbed her from behind and, as The Daily Beast reported Friday, touched her breasts, remarking she was beautiful, the sources said.

    The woman alleged Strauss-Kahn slammed the door to the suite and engaged the indoor latch to lock it, trapping her inside. She alleged that he dragged her deeper inside the suite, and when she slipped trying to get away, he forced her head down to perform oral sex acts, the sources said, as The Daily Beast reported Friday.

    The woman eventually escaped the room and hid in a hallway just outside his $3,000-a-night VIP suite, as Strauss-Kahn hurriedly left the suite and went downstairs to check out, the sources said.

    A cleaning supervisor for the floor found the maid shortly before 12:30 p.m, when she appeared traumatized as she stood near a closet outside the suite. The maid told authorities she had hid in a hallway until Strauss-Kahn left, and the supervisor emerged from a service elevator a few moments later for a routine floor check, the sources said.

    The supervisor tried to calm the maid and ascertain what happened, taking her back to Strauss-Kahn's suite, where the alleged victim became visibly upset. The maid expressed concern during at least one of the conversations with her supervisors that she'd lose her job because she had walked in on a hotel guest, the sources said.

    The first supervisor reported the maid had nausea and was trembling. As soon as the supervisor ascertained an attack had occurred, she called one of her bosses in housecleaning, who responded to an in-house call and came to the floor, the sources said.

    When the more senior housekeeping supervisor got enough details from the maid to make clear a crime had been committed, she called a hotel security officer to the room, the sources said.

    The security officer interrogated the maid, getting extensive details of what had happened in the suite. Throughout the questioning, the maid appeared traumatized, at one point going to a bathroom to try to vomit and several times spitting on the floor and walls of the suite, according to the sources.

    The hotel security officer decided to alert the chief of the hotel's security, a former law-enforcement officer himself, who tried to conduct another interview that was halting at times because the woman had become increasingly traumatized and sick, the sources said.

    The maid repeated her concerns about being fired and inquired whether she should even press charges, the sources said.

    The security chief immediately called the New York Police Department and an ambulance once he had ascertained there was enough evidence of a crime and that the maid's story had been consistent during all four contacts she had with hotel employees, the sources said.

    The four interviews and repeated efforts to calm the woman took about an hour and police were summoned around 1:30 p.m., according to the sources.

    Police showed up at the scene, and began hours of investigation. Shortly after police arrived, Strauss-Kahn called the hotel to report he had left his cellphone behind and his call was immediately routed to the Sofitel security chief, the sources said.

    Working with detectives who were in the room, the hotel security chief falsely told Strauss-Kahn the cellphone had been located and he would drive it out to the IMF chief. The security boss got Strauss-Kahn to tell him that he was already at the Air France lounge at New York's John F. Kennedy Airport and planning to fly to Paris, the sources said.

    Using the information from the security chief's call, the detectives called Port Authority police and were able to apprehend Strauss-Kahn on the jetliner about 10 minutes before the flight was to depart, the sources said.

    “The quick reaction of the security chief and the detectives is what helped us nab the suspect,” one source told The Daily Beast.

    The Sofitel has fully cooperated with law enforcement, making available employees for voluntary interviews, reviewing security tapes, and turning over records of phone calls, check-ins and check-outs and door card readers. Some witnesses were also brought before a grand jury before Strauss-Kahn was formally indicted and released on $1 million bail late last week, the sources said.


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    yuck! im so glad they caught that motherfucker off that plane

    he's truly sick in the head

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    Default French Women Rise Up Against Coverage Of Strauss-Kahn Scandal

    This Sunday afternoon, May 22nd, hundreds of men and women gathered in a square by the Pompidou Center in the center of Paris to speak up against the sexist statements made by French journalists and politicians, following the arrest of IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn.

    I have been closely following the coverage of the case on American, British, Italian, and French media -– and I was indeed outraged by the declarations made by many French politicians, news broadcasters, and an army of pundits (psychologists, lawyers, authors, you name it). They could be classified in four different categories:


    Outrage -– as in, "How can you show photos and videos of a defendant in handcuffs? Everybody will think he's guilty" (because in France there are strict policies against showing such images. And, more importantly, members of the French elite are virtually untouchable). The bottom line: "American law is too tough."


    Denial -– as in, "No, I cannot believe this shocking news, it must have been made up. There is certainly a Machiavellian plot to destroy Dominique Strauss-Kahn and prevent him from becoming the next French president." This, by the way, has been the dominant point of view in French media since news of the arrest first broke. To the point that, according to a recent poll, 60% of French people believe the charges are the result of a conspiracy. (All this despite the fact that DSK's predatory and aggressive behavior towards women was an open secret in France).


    Dismissal -– as in, "Nobody died, why make such a big fuss about this?" Spoken by the former minister of culture and education Jack Lang.


    And -– most outrageous of all -– French media disclosed the full name of the plaintiff, the 32-year-old maid originally from Ghana who has accused Dominique Strauss Kahn of sexual assault. Le Figaro and Paris Match even disclosed the name of her 15-year-old daughter. Some radio programs and newspapers discussed the physical attractiveness of the alleged victim. Mon Dieu!

    Three French feminist groups -– Osez Le Féminisme, La Barbe, and Paroles de Femmes -– decided to take action and wrote an op-ed piece that was published in many French newspapers, denouncing such sexist reactions.

    Here's a partial translation by the Sydney Morning Herald:
    For a week, we have been stunned by the daily surge of misogynistic remarks by public figures, widely broadcast on our televisions, radios, in the workplace and on social networks. We are angry, disgusted and outraged. We don't know what happened in New York last Saturday but we know what has been happening in France for the last week.
    The piece went on to say that these remarks clearly showed the impunity that reigns in France when it comes to public expressions of sexism.
    These words tend to minimize the seriousness of rape, they tend to place it in a gray, more or less acceptable area, a sort of slip. They send a simple message to victims of rape – current and future ones: "Don't press charges". We want to remind everyone: rape and attempted rape are crimes.
    The piece ended with a call to action, asking men and women to sign a petition and to attend a public rally this Sunday. I was there. Here are some of the photos I took:


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    At left: "Sexism. Men go wild, while women suffer." At right: a member of the group La Barbe, speaking to the press.

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    Left: "No means no."
    Right: "Let's take men out of their caves."

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    Left: "Sexism… It's getting out of control" ( this an idiomatic expression; couilles also means balls)

    Right: "No means no."



    We're sick and tired of barbarians."



    According to La Barbe, 3,000 people attended the rally on Sunday and more than 15,000 people, in less than 48 hours, have signed the petition to end sexist reporting of the DSK case.

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    i thought dementia until reports started coming out that he'd tried this sort of stuff before and now i don't know what to think. if it's true, it truly sucks because he was the only opponent who truly stood a chance against sarkozy but now it looks like that little asshole is going to be re-elected.
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    He'll hire Kobe Bryant's lawyer and get off in plenty of time for the election.

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    That he is a horny, dirty man, I totally agree. But since the beginning I have believed that he was totally set up, especially knowing his reputation. Some had a lot to gain by putting him away (Sarkozy are you reading this??)

    Dominique Strauss-Kahn walks free after maid rape case crumbles - Telegraph

    Reports said she was also recorded speaking on the telephone about "potential benefits" of pressing charges against Mr Strauss-Kahn with a man being held for possession of 400lb of marijuana, and that she had $100,000 (£62,000) of mysterious cash deposits in her bank account.

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    I think if there's a set up its the other way around in attempting to discredit a nobody black female immigrant.
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    she's made rape claims before and they were never substantiated, so i have to admit she's losing a lot of credibility.
    which is not to say he isn't a perv. another woman in france who claims he assaulted her in 2003 is now going to file charges against him.

    4 July 2011 Last updated at 21:11 GMT

    Strauss-Kahn to face Tristane Banon rape allegation

    Ms Banon's claims relate to an incident in Paris nearly a decade ago
    Continue reading the main story Strauss-Kahn case

    French writer Tristane Banon is to file a complaint for attempted rape against former IMF chief Dominique Strauss-Kahn, her lawyer says.
    Ms Banon accuses Mr Strauss-Kahn of trying to assault her as she tried to interview him in a Paris flat in 2003.
    Mr Strauss-Kahn said he would sue Ms Banon for making false statements.
    He was recently freed from house arrest in New York in a separate alleged case. He denies sexually assaulting a hotel maid in the city on 14 May.
    It was shortly after Mr Strauss-Kahn was arrested in New York that Ms Banon came forward to say that he had tried to assault her.
    She did not go to the police at the time, but did raise the allegation in a TV chat show in 2007, when Mr Strauss-Kahn's name was bleeped out.
    Ms Banon's lawyer, David Koubbi, said on Monday that she had instructed him "to file a formal criminal complaint for attempted rape" against Mr Strauss-Kahn. He said the complaint would be filed on Tuesday to a Paris prosecutor.
    "These acts are extremely serious," Mr Koubbi said as he announced the legal action in France. "These events were combined with a violence that was absolutely remarkable for these kinds of cases."
    He said the alleged incident took place in February 2003, and not in 2002 as previously reported.
    'Word against word' Ms Banon, 32, has claimed that during the interview, Mr Strauss-Kahn said he would only speak to her if she held his hand.

    If I want one day to put an end to this hell that has lasted eight years, it needs to be tried in court”
    Tristane Banon

    According to her version of events, she eventually had to fight him off as they wrestled on the floor and he undid her bra and pulled open her jeans.
    "When I realised that he really wanted to rape me I started kicking him with my boots. I was terrified," she said in an interview published on Monday in French weekly L'Express.
    She said she had not pursued the case eight years ago because at the time, "everyone told me it would never succeed".
    But she said that following the allegations in New York there was "perhaps a chance to finally be listened to".
    "If I want one day to put an end to this hell that has lasted eight years, it needs to be tried in court," she added.
    "I'm well aware that in these kinds of cases, where it's one person's word against another - without even mentioning people who are that powerful - suspects are often released."
    Mr Strauss-Kahn's French lawyers said on Monday they had been instructed to file a legal complaint against Ms Banon for making false statements about "imaginary" events.
    Presidential bid 'unlikely'
    Mr Strauss-Kahn had been a leading contender to be the French Socialist Party's presidential candidate before his arrest in May.
    Strauss-Kahn allegations
    • 2006: Publication of Sexus Politicus, book by Christophe Deloire and Christophe Dubois, with chapter on Mr Strauss-Kahn and his tendency of "seduction to the point of obsession"
    • 2008: Mr Strauss-Kahn admits an affair with IMF colleague; he admits an "error of judgement"
    • 2011: Mr Strauss-Kahn arrested on 14 May in New York, accused of sexually assaulting a hotel maid
    • 16 May: Writer Tristane Banon comes forward to say Mr Strauss-Kahn tried to assault her in an interview nearly a decade before
    • 1 July: Mr Strauss-Kahn freed without bail from New York house arrest
    Concerns about the reliability of his accuser in New York have left that case reportedly in trouble, and led to speculation that he might return to French politics.
    However, on Monday Socialist Party spokesman Benoit Hamon said the idea that Mr Strauss-Kahn could now run for the presidency was "the weakest" of all possible scenarios.
    Ms Banon's mother, Anne Mansouret, herself a politician from Mr Strauss-Kahn's centre-left Socialist Party, said she had persuaded her daughter not to file a complaint at the time of the alleged incident.
    But Ms Mansouret has said she is "revolted" by the gleeful reaction of many men in France to news the case in New York might fail.
    Mr Koubbi told L'Express that he and his client had decided to press charges in mid-June, and that the timing of the decision was not linked to Mr Strauss-Kahn's US trial.
    He had previously said it would not be filed until "later", to avoid any competition with the New York case against Mr Strauss-Kahn.
    "I have always said that the French case and the American case ought not be linked," Mr Koubbi said on Monday.
    Ms Banon is the god-daughter of Mr Strauss-Kahn's second wife, Brigitte Guillemette.


    BBC News - Strauss-Kahn to face Tristane Banon rape allegation

    article abot the cracks in the original case.

    2 July 2011 Last updated at 15:30 GMT Dominique Strauss-Kahn: How cracks appeared in the case

    Dominique Strauss-Kahn enjoys his first night of freedom in New York
    Strauss-Kahn case



    The case is not over. There will be no rush to judgment. The process will go on.
    These were the words of Judge Michael Obus in New York as he freed Dominique Strauss-Kahn from house arrest.
    The former IMF chief was still charged with sexually assaulting a hotel maid, said District Attorney Cyrus Vance, and the investigation would continue.
    So how did a case that Mr Vance's prosecutors had so much confidence in winning subside to a point where the maid's lawyer accused him of "laying the foundation to dismiss" it?
    The lawyer, Kenneth Thompson, said: "We believe that he's afraid that he's going to lose this high-profile case."
    'Penalty of perjury' In the days after 14 May, when Mr Strauss-Kahn was arrested at John F Kennedy airport after boarding a flight to Paris, prosecutors and police strongly defended the maid's credibility, saying her story was consistent.
    The prosecution fought an attempt to grant Mr Strauss-Kahn any bail, citing the severity of the charges and that his "unusual haste" in leaving the alleged crime scene showed he was a flight risk.
    It lost the argument and, on May 20, he was granted bail, albeit under severe restrictions.
    “She is going to tell you what Dominique Strauss-Kahn did to her. The victim will stand before you”

    Kenneth Thompson Maid's lawyer
    Information continued to leak out in the US media, including reports that DNA found on the clothes of the maid matched Mr Strauss-Kahn.
    The leaks annoyed the defence team, which had kept its case largely under wraps.
    Mr Strauss-Kahn's lawyer, Benjamin Brafman, had merely said: "The forensic evidence, we believe, will not be consistent with a forcible encounter."
    However, on 25 May, a letter from Mr Brafman to the prosecution suggested the defence team had not been idle in its own investigations. It had employed at least two sets of investigators to look into the maid's background in the US and her country of origin, Guinea.
    "We could now release substantial information that, in our view, would seriously undermine the quality of this prosecution and gravely undermine the credibility of the complainant," Mr Brafman wrote.
    The prosecution wrote back, saying that it trusted Mr Brafman would forward any such information immediately.
    The maid changed her story about the aftermath of the alleged attack
    It is not yet known whether the defence or the prosecution, or a combination of both, created the doubts of credibility in the maid that led law enforcement officials to tell the New York Times on 30 June that the accuser had repeatedly lied and the case was in trouble.
    On the same day, Mr Vance wrote to the defence team, outlining a number of untruths the prosecution had now attributed to the maid.
    They fell into two main areas - the maid's asylum application and her story of what happened after the alleged assault at the Sofitel, where she worked.
    Mr Vance said she had admitted that her story - submitted "under penalty of perjury" - of mistreatment, abuse, persecution and gang-rape in Guinea had been false.
    She accepted it had been fabricated with the help of a man who had supplied a cassette of facts that she had memorised.
    Relating to the alleged assault in New York, Mr Vance said the maid had originally claimed she had fled to a hallway on the 28th floor and waited for Mr Strauss-Kahn to leave before reporting the incident.
    This was her Grand Jury testimony which she now admitted was false, he wrote. She instead went to clean another room and then went back to clean Mr Strauss-Kahn's suite 2806.
    Future of the case The New York Times has gone further, quoting law enforcement officials and lawyer statements as showing there had been a six-week deterioration of credibility.
    The paper said that "sit-downs with prosecutors became tense, even angry. Initially composed, she later collapsed in tears and got down on the floor during questioning".
    The Times also points to another area which is not covered in Mr Vance's letter.
    The maid's lawyer, Kenneth Thompson, accused the district attorney of preparing for dismissal
    This was a phone call the maid allegedly made to a man in an Arizona jail just a day after the alleged sexual assault in which, the Times quotes a law enforcement official as reporting, she said: "Don't worry, this guy has a lot of money. I know what I'm doing."
    At the time, one of her lawyers, Jeffrey Shapiro, said the maid had found out Mr Strauss-Kahn's identity a day after the alleged assault when a friend had called her.
    He said: "When she found out this encounter was with a man of great power and wealth she feared not only for herself but more importantly for her daughter."
    The timings of any of the alleged calls remains unclear.
    There are also unconfirmed reports of tens of thousands of dollars being paid into the woman's bank account over the past two years.
    So where does this leave the case?
    There had been indications the defence would point to a consensual act.
    In sexual assault and rape cases, where there are often no other witnesses, the credibility of the two parties can become crucial, so the defence clearly seems to have been strengthened.
    However, many cases have still been successfully prosecuted with compromised complainants.
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    Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance vows to pursue the investigation

    And judging by the comments of the maid's lawyer, Kenneth Thompson, she still intends to pursue the case vigorously.
    He is likely to focus on the alleged act itself, which he says was "a violent sexual assault" in which Mr Strauss-Kahn bruised the maid's body and threw her to the floor.
    "She has never once changed a single thing about that account. The district attorney knows that," Mr Thompson said. "The only defence Dominique Strauss-Kahn has is that this sexual encounter was consensual. That is a lie."
    And although she has admitted fabricating evidence on her asylum claim, she would certainly not be the first person desperate enough to get to the United States to do so.
    Her team may also point to the fact that the shame and humiliation of rape victims often leads them to delayed or confused reporting of the aftermath.
    The defence may say her current story opens up the possibility she doctored the scene or used the time to plan a particular course of action.
    One possibility is the prosecution could drop the three felony charges in a plea bargain in which the defence accepts the four lesser misdemeanour charges - and a maximum one year in jail.
    But most analysts believe the defence is now committed to full acquittal.
    As for the maid, Mr Thompson says: "She is going to tell you what Dominique Strauss-Kahn did to her. The victim will stand before you."
    But will she be believed?
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    Sure, some of her actions and words in the past may look unfavorable towards her overall character, and understandably cast suspicion, but that does NOT mean she was not sexually assaulted by this guy.

    Because a person lied in the past and whatnot, doesn't mean she couldn't have been raped in the present.

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    She lied about rape to get asylum it's not like she smeared someone with a rape allegation just for the fun of it. As for whether she had a freakout right away or after cleaning a few rooms, that doesn't discredit her to me. Neither do her shady connections, she is a poor immigrant, I'm sure those can be found if the police looks hard enough.

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    The woman was bruised up and had a torn shoulder, and sexual contact has already been proven by DNA. And it didn't even call her a liar, it said she 'overstated her case regarding rape and genital mutilation' on her political asylum application.
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