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    Small town Utah baseball team cancels "Caucasian Heritage Night" due to the shootings in SC. How nice of them. http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...223644365.html
    Sad to read all of the comments on their facebook page supporting the original event. Dumbass hicks. https://www.facebook.com/owlzfanpage?fref=ts Some people do not get the real pain that long term racism has caused in this country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    at least they had pink cheeks.

    Something else that makes me wonder about this is just how normal racism seems to be for some people. I went to 4chan the other day when the picture was first released and there was a comment from someone who recognized him, had been shown the gun, had heard the guy say that he wanted to kill black people and thought the guy was just joking. Then the same story showed up in news articles from people he knew, went to school with, the roommate, etc. Nobody thought it was anything more than a joke. It's just what you say.

    “They were just racist slurs in a sense,” he said. “He would say it just as a joke. … I never took it seriously,"

    "Just" racist slurs.
    Ugh, that's sooooo wrong. Them's fighting words.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEE View Post

    Just before I came into the bedroom, Jon Stuart was on and talking that exact thing plus saying that the street names are all confederate names that African Americans have to drive on each day. He was so emotional.

    It was a good speech - in case someone has not seen it and wants to see it:

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    This is beyond horrible, but not unbelievable, which shows how fucked our country is. It's disgusting how the conservative party and news is spinning this to suit their Christian victimization agenda, such bullshit. I hope some gun control laws come from this because guns are meant to destroy, meant to hurt, meant to cause pain---why are they so accessible to those who want to hurt and cause pain? I went to school in the South for a short time a few years ago, and I heard racial slurs more than I ever have in all my years in New England--which our racism is furtive, it's still here, but it doesn't compare to what I saw/heard in the South tbh. I hope all the kids I heard using the n-word to refer to anyone of minority, and also as an insult ("it smells like n____ in here"---I heard that a lot, said by others as a joke), feel ashamed of themselves, I hope others see that THIS is what comes of such hatred. I hope to god those kids see this, and the other hate crimes that have been making the news, and learn from it that they're continuing this sick cycle. I hope some real education on race comes out of this, and some real reforms on gun laws. I can't believe this mindset is still so prevalent.

    Edit: Hell, I just drove through the south this week (FL to CT) and stopped in Georgia to get some peaches from a little stand, and next to the peaches they were selling brass knuckles and hand grenades, and signs saying "I don't need to call the police with this [man holding a gun]". I don't get it, I don't get it, fetishizing violence and weapons. I don't get it. Combined with rampant racism, it makes something like this inevitable. Horrible, and inevitable, because it's a subculture that fetishizes violence and hates a group of people---maybe this kid was on the fringe of that subculture, but he still was a part of it, and it needs to be addressed rather than ignored.
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    His manifesto has been found and taken down. I found a copy. for the look inside the skull of a loon:


    I was not raised in a racist home or environment. Living in the South, almost every White person has a small amount of racial awareness, simply beause of the numbers of negroes in this part of the country. But it is a superficial awareness. Growing up, in school, the White and black kids would make racial jokes toward each other, but all they were were jokes. Me and White friends would sometimes would watch things that would make us think that “blacks were the real racists” and other elementary thoughts like this, but there was no real understanding behind it.

    The event that truly awakened me was the Trayvon Martin case. I kept hearing and seeing his name, and eventually I decided to look him up. I read the Wikipedia article and right away I was unable to understand what the big deal was. It was obvious that Zimmerman was in the right. But more importantly this prompted me to type in the words “black on White crime” into Google, and I have never been the same since that day. The first website I came to was the Council of Conservative Citizens. There were pages upon pages of these brutal black on White murders. I was in disbelief. At this moment I realized that something was very wrong. How could the news be blowing up the Trayvon Martin case while hundreds of these black on White murders got ignored?

    From this point I researched deeper and found out what was happening in Europe. I saw that the same things were happening in England and France, and in all the other Western European countries. Again I found myself in disbelief. As an American we are taught to accept living in the melting pot, and black and other minorities have just as much right to be here as we do, since we are all immigrants. But Europe is the homeland of White people, and in many ways the situation is even worse there. From here I found out about the Jewish problem and other issues facing our race, and I can say today that I am completely racially aware.

    Blacks

    I think it is is fitting to start off with the group I have the most real life experience with, and the group that is the biggest problem for Americans.
    Niggers are stupid and violent. At the same time they have the capacity to be very slick. Black people view everything through a racial lense. Thats what racial awareness is, its viewing everything that happens through a racial lense. They are always thinking about the fact that they are black. This is part of the reason they get offended so easily, and think that some thing are intended to be racist towards them, even when a White person wouldnt be thinking about race. The other reason is the Jewish agitation of the black race.
    Black people are racially aware almost from birth, but White people on average dont think about race in their daily lives. And this is our problem. We need to and have to.
    Say you were to witness a dog being beat by a man. You are almost surely going to feel very sorry for that dog. But then say you were to witness a dog biting a man. You will most likely not feel the same pity you felt for the dog for the man. Why? Because dogs are lower than men.
    This same analogy applies to black and White relations. Even today, blacks are subconsciously viewed by White people are lower beings. They are held to a lower standard in general. This is why they are able to get away with things like obnoxious behavior in public. Because it is expected of them.
    Modern history classes instill a subconscious White superiority complex in Whites and an inferiority complex in blacks. This White superiority complex that comes from learning of how we dominated other peoples is also part of the problem I have just mentioned. But of course I dont deny that we are in fact superior.
    I wish with a passion that niggers were treated terribly throughout history by Whites, that every White person had an ancestor who owned slaves, that segregation was an evil an oppressive institution, and so on. Because if it was all it true, it would make it so much easier for me to accept our current situation. But it isnt true. None of it is. We are told to accept what is happening to us because of ancestors wrong doing, but it is all based on historical lies, exaggerations and myths. I have tried endlessly to think of reasons we deserve this, and I have only came back more irritated because there are no reasons.
    Only a fourth to a third of people in the South owned even one slave. Yet every White person is treated as if they had a slave owning ancestor. This applies to in the states where slavery never existed, as well as people whose families immigrated after slavery was abolished. I have read hundreds of slaves narratives from my state. And almost all of them were positive. One sticks out in my mind where an old ex-slave recounted how the day his mistress died was one of the saddest days of his life. And in many of these narratives the slaves told of how their masters didnt even allowing whipping on his plantation.
    Segregation was not a bad thing. It was a defensive measure. Segregation did not exist to hold back negroes. It existed to protect us from them. And I mean that in multiple ways. Not only did it protect us from having to interact with them, and from being physically harmed by them, but it protected us from being brought down to their level. Integration has done nothing but bring Whites down to level of brute animals. The best example of this is obviously our school system.
    Now White parents are forced to move to the suburbs to send their children to “good schools”. But what constitutes a “good school”? The fact is that how good a school is considered directly corresponds to how White it is. I hate with a passion the whole idea of the suburbs. To me it represents nothing but scared White people running. Running because they are too weak, scared, and brainwashed to fight. Why should we have to flee the cities we created for the security of the suburbs? Why are the suburbs secure in the first place? Because they are White. The pathetic part is that these White people dont even admit to themselves why they are moving. They tell themselves it is for better schools or simply to live in a nicer neighborhood. But it is honestly just a way to escape niggers and other minorities.
    But what about the White people that are left behind? What about the White children who, because of school zoning laws, are forced to go to a school that is 90 percent black? Do we really think that that White kid will be able to go one day without being picked on for being White, or called a “white boy”? And who is fighting for him? Who is fighting for these White people forced by economic circumstances to live among negroes? No one, but someone has to.

    Here I would also like to touch on the idea of a Norhtwest Front. I think this idea is beyond stupid. Why should I for example, give up the beauty and history of my state to go to the Norhthwest? To me the whole idea just parralells the concept of White people running to the suburbs. The whole idea is pathetic and just another way to run from the problem without facing it.
    Some people feel as though the South is beyond saving, that we have too many blacks here. To this I say look at history. The South had a higher ratio of blacks when we were holding them as slaves. Look at South Africa, and how such a small minority held the black in apartheid for years and years. Speaking of South Africa, if anyone thinks that think will eventually just change for the better, consider how in South Africa they have affirmative action for the black population that makes up 80 percent of the population.
    It is far from being too late for America or Europe. I believe that even if we made up only 30 percent of the population we could take it back completely. But by no means should we wait any longer to take drastic action.

    Anyone who thinks that White and black people look as different as we do on the outside, but are somehow magically the same on the inside, is delusional. How could our faces, skin, hair, and body structure all be different, but our brains be exactly the same? This is the nonsense we are led to believe.
    Negroes have lower Iqs, lower impulse control, and higher testosterone levels in generals. These three things alone are a recipe for violent behavior. If a scientist publishes a paper on the differences between the races in Western Europe or Americans, he can expect to lose his job. There are personality traits within human families, and within different breeds of cats or dogs, so why not within the races?
    A horse and a donkey can breed and make a mule, but they are still two completely different animals. Just because we can breed with the other races doesnt make us the same.
    In a modern history class it is always emphasized that, when talking about “bad” things Whites have done in history, they were White. But when we lern about the numerous, almost countless wonderful things Whites have done, it is never pointed out that these people were White. Yet when we learn about anything important done by a black person in history, it is always pointed out repeatedly that they were black. For example when we learn about how George Washington carver was the first nigger smart enough to open a peanut.

    On another subject I want to say this. Many White people feel as though they dont have a unique culture. The reason for this is that White culture is world culture. I dont mean that our culture is made up of other cultures, I mean that our culture has been adopted by everyone in the world. This makes us feel as though our culture isnt special or unique. Say for example that every business man in the world wore a kimono, that every skyscraper was in the shape of a pagoda, that every door was a sliding one, and that everyone ate every meal with chopsticks. This would probably make a Japanese man feel as though he had no unique traditional culture.

    I have noticed a great disdain for race mixing White women within the White nationalists community, bordering on insanity it. These women are victims, and they can be saved. Stop.

    Jews

    Unlike many White naitonalists, I am of the opinion that the majority of American and European jews are White. In my opinion the issues with jews is not their blood, but their identity. I think that if we could somehow destroy the jewish identity, then they wouldnt cause much of a problem. The problem is that Jews look White, and in many cases are White, yet they see themselves as minorities. Just like niggers, most jews are always thinking about the fact that they are jewish. The other issue is that they network. If we could somehow turn every jew blue for 24 hours, I think there would be a mass awakening, because people would be able to see plainly what is going on.

    I dont pretend to understand why jews do what they do. They are enigma.



    Hispanics

    Hispanics are obviously a huge problem for Americans. But there are good hispanics and bad hispanics. I remember while watching hispanic television stations, the shows and even the commercials were more White than our own. They have respect for White beauty, and a good portion of hispanics are White. It is a well known fact that White hispanics make up the elite of most hispanics countries. There is good White blood worht saving in Uruguay, Argentina, Chile and even Brasil.

    But they are still our enemies.


    East Asians

    I have great respent for the East Asian races. Even if we were to go extinct they could carry something on. They are by nature very racist and could be great allies of the White race. I am not opposed at all to allies with the Northeast Asian races.


    Patriotism

    I hate the sight of the American flag. Modern American patriotism is an absolute joke. People pretending like they have something to be proud while White people are being murdered daily in the streets. Many veterans believe we owe them something for “protecting our way of life” or “protecting our freedom”. But im not sure what way of life they are talking about. How about we protect the White race and stop fighting for the jews. I will say this though, I myself would have rather lived in 1940's American than Nazi Germany, and no this is not ignorance speaking, it is just my opinion. So I dont blame the veterans of any wars up until after Vietnam, because at least they had an American to be proud of and fight for.


    An Explanation

    To take a saying from a film, “I see all this stuff going on, and I dont see anyone doing anything about it. And it pisses me off.”. To take a saying from my favorite film, “Even if my life is worth less than a speck of dirt, I want to use it for the good of society.”.

    I have no choice. I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country. We have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me.

    Unfortunately at the time of writing I am in a great hurry and some of my best thoughts, actually many of them have been to be left out and lost forever. But I believe enough great White minds are out there already.

    Please forgive any typos, I didnt have time to check it.
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    I just finished reading that... It's like he ran out of hate steam.
    KILLING ME WON'T BRING BACK YOUR GOD DAMNED HONEY!!!!!!!!!!

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    A while back, I helped someone clean out their parent's place, and we found a suitcase in the attic with all sorts of hate literature in it from the 1960s. We sat there open-mouthed reading this stuff that was just so unbelievable. How could any of it speak to people?

    Apart from the Trayvon Martin reference, this reads like it came out of that 1960s suitcase. It's nearly identical, right down to the stupid donkey/horse analogy, the "Jewish agitation" etc.

    Pictures from his now-down site: https://imgur.com/a/3KL8m I wonder who took them.

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    I used to have to read shit like this whenever I'd sit in the head of one my Navy ships in San Diego.. No one was ever caught writing this crap. We'd scrub it off the bulkheads, and a week or two later it would be up again. The command could do anything, but there were several white sailors on board my last ship with ties to white supremacist groups in Imperial Beach. And this was twenty-five years ago.
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    If you simmered that down and added some water, I think you'd find a lot of people think this way.
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    ^^^This.
    I think a sizable amount of people either think this way, or are afraid to speak out against those who do.

    Someone needs to put him out of our misery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    A while back, I helped someone clean out their parent's place, and we found a suitcase in the attic with all sorts of hate literature in it from the 1960s. We sat there open-mouthed reading this stuff that was just so unbelievable. How could any of it speak to people?.
    It speaks to them because people who didn't have two nickels to scrape together could at least look down on the black folks. It's the same reason people who live paycheck to paycheck now bitch about Welfare Wilma and her filet mignon and Escalade (but not Jamie Dimon and his cronies), fully encouraged by Fox News and Rush Limbaugh to TAKE THEIR COUNTRY BACK. They're not much, but at least they can fancy themselves better than somebody else, even though it's patently untrue.

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    I always laugh whenever these racist idiots say black folk are raping white women and taking over THEIR country. Hello motherfuckers?!?! There were people already HERE. It was never your country to begin with. And as for black people raping white women, tell that to the plantation owners who raped their black female slaves with impunity and sold their own children. Fuck this shit.
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    I read an article that said, according to a police interview, he almost didn't go through with it because they were so nice to him.

    It's just impossible to comprehend.
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    A very dear friend of mine has gone full Facebook ranting about psychotropic drugs, alcohol killing more than guns and legalization of marijuana. Bless his fucking heart.
    KILLING ME WON'T BRING BACK YOUR GOD DAMNED HONEY!!!!!!!!!!

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