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    i bet he's murdered before he leaves peru if things blow up with the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fgg View Post
    La Policia Nacional have said van der Sloot had admitted killing her -- but his legal team's claiming the confession was obtained "under duress" and therefore declared "invalid".
    I haven't followed this story closely in a while, but are they saying the confession was already thrown out or that his lawyers are arguing it should be - big big difference. Also, if there was no interpretor, how did they know he confessed - stupid question, I know, but this story is so poorly written, I'm going with logic baby steps.
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    If they let him out I hope there is a sniper waiting outside.
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    I think there are two separate issues here. One is that there is an impending ruling on whether his confession is admissable. A ruling that is expected in about a week.

    The second issue is that the present trial of Van Der Sloot has been slowed down because there is no translator available for translating Spanish into Dutch.


    Van der Sloot Case Has "Ground to a Halt," Say Reports - Crimesider - CBS News

    NEW YORK (CBS/WIAT) The legal process against Joran van der Sloot has "ground to a halt," and not because of the impending ruling on his appeal, according to reports.
    PICTURES: Van der Sloot Hotel Room Crime Scene
    The Dutch news website Dutchnews.nl reports that Maximo Altez, van der Sloot's attorney, told Peruvian TV station Panamericana Television that case is stagnating because no official interpreter can be found.

    The Peruvian station showed a letter from the Peruvian association of translators and interpreters which said it has no one who can translate from Spanish into Dutch.

    It also showed a letter from the Dutch embassy in which it says it has no official interpreter available, according to the Dutch website. The Dutch Embassy says it provides a list of lawyers and interpreters to national abroad facing criminal charges but does not provide the interpreters themselves, according to Dutch newspaper De Telegraaf.

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    if this psychopath is released it will be the damn peruvians' fault for not handling the case properly. any idiot could tell them you need to have an interpreter present if the accused doesn't speak the language.
    i also can't believe it's this difficult to find a dutch-spanish translator. there are only about a million dutch people who speak perfect spanish, i'm sure at least a few of them are living in peru...

    and sorry, but natalee was nowhere near a 'teen beauty', as the article calls her.
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    If they let him go, there will be 3 more dead women in 3 more years.

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    ^ At minimum.
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    Well fly someone in from somewhere to get this done. You mean to tell me there's no one in this world that can translate? Talk about incompetence.

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    No fucking way should this asshole walk. I really feel for the families of those women he's killed.
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    I can't fucking believe this. If he is let out though, there's no way he's getting out of that country alive.
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    Well, the confession just seemed to be icing on the cake to me. The hotel security camera footage seem to have him dead to rights. I can't believe that having a confession thrown out (if it is) would in any way affect the trial and subsequent guilty verdict. The worry would be that he flees the country.
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    They were probably hoping he'd be killed in prison by now and then *poof* end of problem.
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    WTF?

    JORAN'S PRISON ROMANCE


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    Accused killer JORAN VAN DER SLOOT has begun a jailhouse romance with a mystery woman who’s been allowed to visit him in his cell, The ENQUIRER has learned exclusively.

    The slim, 30-something blonde calls on Dutch-born Joran twice a week at the grim Miguel Castro Castro prison in Lima, Peru.

    “She’s a white foreigner with short blonde hair who speaks English and Spanish fluently. Guards as well as prisoners refer to her as 'the Dutchman’s gringa,’” revealed a source close to the case.

    Joran has called the woman “my girlfriend” in conversations with Hugo Trujillo Ospina aka “The Clown,” the Colombian assassin who shares his cell block. However, it is unlikely that Joran has been able to get very intimate with the woman inside the 2,300-inmate prison because he is never left unguarded.

    She began visiting van der Sloot, 23, on June 20 — 17 days after he was arrested for the brutal murder of Stephany Flores, the 21-year-old daughter of a wealthy businessman.

    According to prison sources, the unlikely romance blossomed after van der Sloot’s mother began paying the woman $100 a month to take him food, money and clothing, and report on his condition.

    During one recent 30-minute visit, guards’ records show that she brought him five cans of tuna and another five cans of beans with bacon, plus bread, jam and water.

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    Default Van der Sloot: I've 'misused' Holloway case 'for my own advantage'

    Van der Sloot: I've 'misused' Holloway case 'for my own advantage'
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    September 7, 2010 9:11 a.m. EDT

    (CNN) -- In a jailhouse interview with a Dutch television station, Joran van der Sloot said he is remorseful for telling so many stories regarding the 2005 disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway, but once again denied culpability in the case.

    "For everything that's happened since 2005, all the things said in the media and everything, I feel guilty for, yeah," van der Sloot, 22, said in the interview, portions of which were aired on NBC's "Today" on Tuesday.

    The Dutch citizen is jailed in Lima, Peru, where he is awaiting trial on a murder charge in the death of Peruvian student Stephany Flores. Her body was found in May in a hotel room registered to van der Sloot, which the two were seen entering on surveillance camera video. He also is charged with a count of wire fraud and a count of extortion in Alabama for allegedly trying to extort more than $250,000 from Holloway's family in return for disclosing the location of her body.

    Holloway was last seen in the early hours of May 30, 2005, leaving an Oranjestad, Aruba, nightclub with van der Sloot and two other men, brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe. She was visiting the island with about 100 classmates to celebrate their graduation from Mountain Brook High School in suburban Birmingham, Alabama.

    Van der Sloot was arrested twice in Aruba in connection with Holloway's disappearance, but was never charged. He has denied responsibility for her disappearance.

    In the interview, van der Sloot said he feels guilty about his father's fatal heart attack, for not listening to his mother and for telling lies, as well as his past behavior.

    "I was doing a lot of things that I shouldn't have been doing, and mostly only going out all the night and sleeping all the day," he said, describing himself as "impulsive."

    Asked why he's told so many different stories about the Holloway case, he said, "There were people who were paying me to make up stories, and I was really good at making up stories. Everybody keeps coming at you asking questions ... if you want something, I'll tell you whatever you want to hear, sure."

    Still, he said, he has "misused the situation for my own advantage." He said he feels bad about that and would take it back if he had the opportunity.

    It's a familiar refrain, said John Q. Kelly, an attorney for Holloway's mother, Beth Twitty.

    "He's always a victim. He's always seeking attention. He's always misunderstood and someday he's absolutely going to tell the truth," Kelly said on NBC. "... He's a pathological liar."

    He said it was van der Sloot who contacted him about revealing the location of Holloway's body in exchange for payment. "We knew he was going to lie, and was going to make up the basis for wire fraud," Kelly said.

    "It's attention-seeking behavior, as simple as that," he said. "He wants to be in the spotlight ... he just can't help himself."

    Van der Sloot would not answer questions about the Flores case, saying it is "not in my best interest to talk about it at all." But he maintains police tricked him into making a confession, saying they would not let him call his mother, talk to anyone or arrange for an attorney.

    Police said van der Sloot admitted that he attacked Flores, 21, on May 30 after she read an e-mail in his computer connected with the Holloway case. After killing Flores, police say, van der Sloot took money and bank cards from her wallet and fled to Chile, where he was arrested June 3.

    He was returned the next day to Peru.

    Asked about the extortion case, van der Sloot said, "I have had five years long that people have just been blaming me for something, and yeah, I have a lot of anger built up because of that." He said the Holloway family kept insisting he had information, and wanted to give him the money, so he thought, "I've already told a lot of different stories. I'll do it again." He added, "I know it's very wrong."

    On Twitty's reaction to that statement, Kelly said, "I think in deference to Beth, I won't repeat what she said about what he had to say."

    He said he isn't surprised that van der Sloot admitted the extortion, saying he has more than three weeks of e-mails between himself and van der Sloot, as well as audio and videotapes.

    Van der Sloot said in the interview he wished he'd gone along with his mother's plan and sought psychiatric treatment, but instead he took the money and went to Peru to gamble, according to NBC.

    Van der Sloot also spoke about Flores' family, saying, "I feel really bad that her family had to lose a daughter. It really does hurt me. I think about it all the time."

    Asked if he will ever disclose what happened, he said, "When I speak to the judge, and the time is right, I'm going to tell the whole truth, absolutely."

    "I've got 20 e-mails where he says he's very sorry for what happened, he's going to tell the truth, absolutely," Kelly said. "... He's just incapable of it."

    He said if van der Sloot ever does tell the truth, he believes it will be out of a sense of self-preservation and fear -- not his conscience or respect for either Holloway's or his own family.

    In the interview, van der Sloot acknowledged he has a "web of problems. But I created all of them myself, so yeah, I have to deal with it now, deal with the consequences."

    Van der Sloot also admitted he extorted money from Holloway's family in an interview with a Dutch newspaper. His attorney in the Flores case suggested Monday that his comments may have been mis-translated.

    In that interview, van der Sloot told the Telegraph he wanted to "get back at Natalee's family. Her parents have been making my life tough for years."

    "When they offered to pay for the girl's location, I thought: 'Why not?'" he said.

    "Maybe there were some mistakes in the translation," said attorney Maximo Alteza, who said he is not involved in the Holloway case.

    Also Monday, a Peruvian court voted 2-1 to reject van der Sloot's contention that he is being held unlawfully, but the court requires three votes to secure a decision. Alteza said that a fourth jurist will hear the case and cast a vote at a public hearing next week. If that judge votes in favor of van der Sloot, a fifth judge will hear the case to break the tie.

    Alteza said that van der Sloot's constitutional rights have been violated and he "could be released because of the mistakes made by the police during the investigation."

    But Kelly pointed out Tuesday that if he is released, van der Sloot will be held in Alabama on the charges related to extortion.

    In Session's Mayra Cuevas contributed to this report.
    Van der Sloot: I've 'misused' Holloway case 'for my own advantage' - CNN.com

    He is such a slimy piece of shit.

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    Awww poor guy. That Holloway family just made his life miserable...

    This asshole really needs to keep his mouth shut, but he just CAN'T, apparently.
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