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    Ok wait, WHAT? Why would 'they' bring in a fake person from another country?? What in the hell? I agree that the pics do differ a bit, but why the hell would that happen at all in the first place? What would the point be???

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    He has the same moles on his right chin/cheek, I guess they failed to noticed that during their face analysis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fgg View Post
    did you ever see janie's story that was featured on oprah? it was beyond scary. they showed video of her as a baby and you could see her looking and reacting to things that didn't exist. she was full blown schizo basically from birth. the parents had another child and because the girl would go after the boy, the parents rented two one-bedroom apartments and took turns taking care of the kids.
    Thanks for the tip. I think I had only vaguely heard of the story, but I'm reading it right now over here: A Young Girl Battles Schizophrenia - Oprah.com

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    If you search for other pictures, you'll see he looks much closer to his mug shot than he does in that before picture. At least, he does to me.

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    When you smile, your mouth usually pulls the sides of your nose/nostrils outwards a bit. That accounts for the nose difference. (And it's why I went thru a phase of avoiding wide grins, lol. Well, that and a pic of Julia Roberts grinning that really creeped me out.)
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    I also believe his head is tipped more forwards; a different angle can change the appearance of one's features because you can see more of them in one shot than another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie_Moffett View Post
    When you smile, your mouth usually pulls the sides of your nose/nostrils outwards a bit. That accounts for the nose difference. (And it's why I went thru a phase of avoiding wide grins, lol. Well, that and a pic of Julia Roberts grinning that really creeped me out.)
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    Judge approves use of 'truth serum' on accused Aurora shooter James Holmes

    Legal experts question use of 'narcoanalytic interview' to settle question of Holmes's legal insanity at time of theater shooting


    Legal and medical experts are questioning the decision of a judge in Colorado to allow James Holmes, the suspected gunman in the Aurora cinema shooting, to be tested with a "truth serum" should he plead not guilty by reason of insanity.

    Judge William Sylvester ruled that in the event of Holmes pleading insanity his prosecutors would be permitted to interrogate him while he is under the influence of a medical drug designed to loosen him up and get him to talk. The idea would be that such a "narcoanalytic interview" would be used to confirm whether or not he had been legally insane when he embarked on his shooting spree on 20 July last year.

    The precise identity of the drug that would be used has not been released, other than a statement that it would be "medically appropriate", but it would most likely be a short-acting barbiturate such as sodium amytal.

    William Shepherd, chair of the criminal justice section of the American Bar Association, whose members include both prosecutors and defence lawyers, said that the proposed use of a "truth drug" to ascertain the veracity of a defendant's plea of insanity was highly unusual in the US. He predicted it would provoke intense legal argument relating to Holmes's right to remain silent under the fifth amendment of the US constitution.

    "If a defendant loses his right to remain silent because the court has authorised the use of drugs that make him talk, that would raise all sorts of fifth amendment issues that both sides would have to address."

    Shepherd also wondered whether some members of the trial jury would object to "the sound of the government forcing a truth serum down the throat of a defendant".

    There are very few recorded instances of "truth drugs" being applied to criminal trials in the US. One such case was the 1959 prosecution in California of Raymond Cartier, who was charged with killing his wife after a drunken night out.

    The defendant was given "truth serum" with the blessing of the court, but in his case the "narcoanalytic interview" was used to support the defence's contention that Cartier had been insane at the time he committed murder. With Holmes, the prosecution would administer it to try and prove the opposite conclusion.

    Holmes has been charged with multiple counts of murder arising from the shooting at the Century 16 cinema in Aurora, Colorado in which 12 people were killed and 58 injured. On Tuesday, a plea of not guilty was entered for Holmes after his lawyer told the court that the defendant was not ready yet to enter his own plea.

    The proposed use of a "truth drug" has also prompted a critical response from medical experts. Dr August Piper, a Seattle-based psychiatrist who has used sodium amytal to treat patients who were mute or in a catatonic state and who has written research papers on the subject, said that this was "not a royal road to the truth".

    "First of all, people can still lie under the influence of amytal. More importantly, the person under the influence of the drug is susceptible to outside suggestion."

    Piper also questioned whether such a method could be used to find out the truth of what happened retrospectively. Though short-acting barbiturates might be beneficial in illuminating Holmes's current state of mind, by opening him up to greater communication, it would be of doubtful use in determining his state of mind at the scene of the shooting eight months ago.

    "To try and do this would be unlikely to yield useful information, and could pervert the course of justice by rendering the defendant susceptible to pressure," Piper said.

    Steven Hoge, a clinical professor of psychiatry at Columbia University in New York, said that there was "no great evidence to support that narcoanalytic interviews lead to the truth by any means". He said that it was extremely rare to find the technique used in a criminal context.

    Hoge has only once conducted a "narcoanalytic interview" himself – in the case of a man who had been so severely drunk he couldn't remember what had happened to him. The hope had been that he might recover memory, though it proved unsuccessful.

    Most experimentation, Hoge added, was in similar areas of lost or repressed memories. But it was not clear in the case of the alleged Aurora shooter that memory was an issue that would be relevant in seeking to ascertain a diagnosis of sanity or insanity at the time of the rampage.

    "It's hard to see what the value of this procedure would be, unless his memory of the shooting is in question," he said.

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    Da fuck?! As much as I despise this bastard, this ain't the damn 1930s.
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    I don't even know what to think with this one. Is he putting on the vacant, stereotypical 'crazy' look?
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    Colorado theater shooting suspect offers to plead guilty

    By CNN Staff
    updated 6:45 PM EDT, Wed March 27, 2013

    STORY HIGHLIGHTS

    • NEW: James Holmes makes the offer in exchange for avoiding the death penalty
    • NEW: Prosecutors have not yet said whether they will seek the penalty
    • Holmes' attorneys say they are still exploring a mental health defense



    (CNN) -- Colorado shooting suspect James Holmes has offered to plead guilty and spend the rest of his life behind bars in exchange for avoiding the death penalty, according to court documents filed Wednesday.

    Prosecutors have not accepted the offer because they may choose to pursue the death penalty.


    Colorado shooting suspect James Holmes has offered to plead guilty to avoid the death penalty.


    "Prior to arraignment, Mr. Holmes made an offer to the prosecution to resolve this case by pleading guilty and spending the rest of his life in prison, without any opportunity for parole," the documents read.

    "If the prosecution elects not to pursue the death penalty, then it is Mr. Holmes' position that this case could be resolved on April 1."

    Prosecutors have said they will make a decision on whether or not to seek the death penalty against the 25-year-old Holmes at a hearing April 1.

    This month, a judge entered a standard plea of not guilty for Holmes, who is accused of a shooting rampage at a Colorado movie theater that left 12 people dead and 58 injured on July 20, 2012.

    In the documents filed Wednesday, his attorneys said they are still exploring a mental health defense, "and counsel will vigorously present and argue any and all appropriate defenses at a trial or sentencing proceeding, as necessary."

    "Nevertheless, Mr. Holmes is currently willing to resolve the case to bring the proceedings to a speedy and definite conclusion for all involved."
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    Interesting that he doesn't want to die. Most of these mass shooters take themselves out.

    The State could probably get a death sentence so I wonder if they'll pass up the chance.

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    I think they should just accept the deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEE View Post
    I think they should just accept the deal.
    Me too. This one is obviously not right in the head. Interesting about the truth serum interrogation. Only other time I recall reading about it was when Santa Cruz County tried that with Ed Kemper in 1973. Unfortunately the doctor then gave him a shot of medical methedrine to 'help him come out of it'. The results were drastic--he raved for days and tried repeatedly to kill himself. Very dubious practice overall, and all to figure out if someone who's killed mass quantities of people in cold blood is 'sane'? Hello? I really feel these types of killers are psychologically broken, irreparably so, and should just be taken out of society. I know some will try to fake it, but that is harder to do than one might think. The whole legal definition of sanity needs some kind of reworking, imo.
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