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    I'm not sure what the conflicting information from the friends would prove except that they have imperfect memory. But the timeline is what it is. Table booked at 8:30. Report to police at 10:10. They had just over 90 minutes to notice that Madeleine had OD'd, figure out how to hide her somewhere so that nobody would notice the body, or them walking anywhere but between the room and the table, and then coordinate their stories and report it to the police. And that assumes that the McCann's would be able to convince four other people who would have nothing to gain, and everything to lose, to participate in a conspiracy after the fact.
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    It could very well be that all kiddies of the group of friends were *treated*to be put down and out while parents were dining and boozing..of course they will keep quite about it.I ve said it and i llsay it again.You DO NOT leave your babies for hours to go have a good time.,at any place and under any excuse.PERIOD.And it angers me that these assholes are making money out of this.People is buying into their victim hood and giving them money they often take out off their families,s budget to help.And Macassholes are taking it and keeping the story fresh to get more and more...
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    The fund hasn't given any money to the McCann's since late 2007, though.

    I do agree, however, that you don't leave unattended small children in a hotel room and go off to drink with your friends. That is dumb. Especially given the fact that people can, and did, wander off the street to solicit people in hotel rooms and/or ask for money for charity.

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    How do you know that Mo? It is a limited company NOT a charity & therefore does not have to declare that stuff.
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    I know my friend visited London lately and bought those stupid colored bracelets *find Maddie*or something.She didnt know the story and was really happy she helped,stupid cow.Do you think that money will end up *finding*whatever is left of the poor kid,or line the parent,s pockets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novice View Post
    How do you know that Mo? It is a limited company NOT a charity & therefore does not have to declare that stuff.
    I don't think we can know for sure either way. They have claimed that they have not given any money to the McCann's since 2007, when some money was used to pay a couple of the McCann's mortgage payments. I think there are 6 people on the fund's board of directors - 4 of them besides the McCann's. It seems unlikely that all four of the other members would be asleep at the switch and allowing money from the fund to go into the McCann's private accounts.

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    I assume they are back at work now? Hes a cardiologist and she's an anaesthetist (wink) so they would be earning plenty anyway. I know a lot of the appeal fund money went towards their "living expenses" in the early days. How any amount of money/donations is going to mysteriously flush out the truth is anyone's guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    I don't think we can know for sure either way. They have claimed that they have not given any money to the McCann's since 2007, when some money was used to pay a couple of the McCann's mortgage payments. I think there are 6 people on the fund's board of directors - 4 of them besides the McCann's. It seems unlikely that all four of the other members would be asleep at the switch and allowing money from the fund to go into the McCann's private accounts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novice View Post
    Nothing would surprise me about that pair.... Their Find Maddy "fund" is a limited company & therefore they do not have to say where the £££ goes.
    Madeleine's Fund Accounts to 31/03/2008 Row as McCanns use £1million Madeleine fund to pay their mortgage | Mail Online Fund FAQs « McCann Fund Fraud

    Interesting...

    Lies « McCann Fund Fraud
    The directors:- Who are the directors of Madeleine's Fund?
    There are six directors of the Fund. They are:

    • Brian Kennedy, a retired head teacher; Kate McCann's great uncle
    • Edward Smethurst – A Commercial lawyer; "Edward Smethurst is Head of Legal Services for the Latium Group and its related Group companies owned by Brian Kennedy"
    • Jon Corner – Director of a media company; is the McCann Twins' God Father
    • Michael Linett- retired accountant. No info.
    • Kate McCann General Practitioner
    • Gerry McCann Consultant Cardiologist



    Also
    Brian Kennedy also gave an interview at the Rothley War Memorial on May 17, 2007. This time he was eager to tell us how to donate money to the “Fund” via two banks – the Nat West and the Royal Bank of Scotland. He also told us what the money would be used for:
    “Mainly for legal expenditure”
    YouTube video
    As this was the first raison d’etre for the Madeleine Fund, and confirmed nationally by one of its directors, we can conclude that the Madeleine Fund was set up to provide legal funds for the McCanns.
    At no time at all did Brian Kennedy state that the money was to be used to finance the search for Madeleine.
    - See more at: http://mccannfundfraud.info/2011/05/....cTuifGCG.dpuf



    They can 'give no money' to the McCanns but in the UK a company can pay living & other expenses as a way of getting around the tax. It would not surprise me if it was doing this here.

    http://www.mccannfiles.com/id425.html

    "Other creditors" £22k & £21k approx for 2011 & 2012.....

    Just sayin'
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    Sounds like the lawyer is well paid.
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    I am another one who can't quite figure out how they could have hidden/disposed of the body in the short time from the table being booked to the discovery that she was missing. But, I remember reading that there is some speculation that she actually died that morning or the previous night and the whole "abduction" was staged after they'd spent the whole day coming up with a story and hiding the body.

    I really go back and forth between thinking they were involved, or at the very least know more than they are letting on, and thinking it was just a horrible tragedy and that they had nothing to do with the actual disappearance (other than leaving her unattended).

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    Quote Originally Posted by southernbelle View Post
    I am another one who can't quite figure out how they could have hidden/disposed of the body in the short time from the table being booked to the discovery that she was missing. But, I remember reading that there is some speculation that she actually died that morning or the previous night and the whole "abduction" was staged after they'd spent the whole day coming up with a story and hiding the body.
    The problem with that scenario is that on the last day (day 6):

    10:30 am - the McCann's checked Madeleine and her twin siblings into the Ocean's Club Kid's Club while they go for a walk

    2:30 pm - Kate McCann takes a photo of Madeleine at the pool.

    3:30 pm - the McCann's return with the children to the Kid's club.

    5:30 pm - the children eat dinner at the Kid's club.

    So, Madeleine was accounted for as alive as late as 5:30 pm. There would be logs showing that the McCann's checked the kids in and out at the times above. It also fits in with the timeline of the McCann's putting the kids to bed around 7 pm and getting ready to meet with friends at 8:30 pm.

    With regard to people on the fund's board of directors:

    There is Brian Kennedy - who is Kate's uncle

    There is Edward Smethurst - head of legal services for Latium Group. It's owned by Brian Kennedy, but not Kate's uncle. This second Brian Kennedy is a multi-millionaire businessman.

    Michael Linett is a retired accountant and there is not much info on him. Supposedly, he is married to a wealthy woman. And that's about it.

    The fund has official auditors - Haysmacintyre - which means somebody is reviewing and reporting on what is being spent. Conspiracy theorists have accused Haysmacintyre of milking the fund of 37,000 pounds over 5 years (or about $60,000). However, that comes to about $12,000 a year. I don't know what it costs to review the books in Britain, but that is not an exhorbitant amount for the United States.
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    I suspect that that is a standard amount for a city firm of auditors.


    i'm not saying that they are doing anything illegal like embezzlement, however there are plenty if ways to get a company to pay your personal expenses or to take a share of the "profiles" from the share sheme that is legal but ends up with that company paying you a lot of cash instead of a wage.


    For example, but not limited to...

    As an employer, you might need to report any expenses or benefits you provide to employees. You may also need to pay tax and National Insurance on them.
    A
    Accommodation


    Assets bought, sold or given


    Assets made available to an employee


    B
    Bank charges


    Bikes for employees


    Bonuses


    Business travel mileage for employees’ own vehicles


    C
    Car parking charges


    Cash prizes for employer-run competitions


    Cash sum payments to employees


    Childcare


    Christmas bonuses


    Clothing


    Club membership


    Company cars and fuel


    Company vans and fuel


    Compensation for injuries at work


    Computers loaned to an employee


    Congestion charges


    Counselling for employees


    Credit, debit and charge cards


    E
    Employee liabilities and indemnity insurance


    Employee suggestion schemes


    Entertainment


    Examination grants


    F
    Food and groceries


    G
    Gifts to employees


    Guarantee payments


    H
    Holiday pay


    Holidays


    Home phones


    Homeworking


    I
    Incidental overnight expenses


    Income tax paid on directors’ behalf


    Inducement (golden hello) payments


    Items for disabled employees


    L
    Loans provided to employees


    Long-service awards


    Lost-time payments


    M
    Maternity suspension payments


    Meals for employees and directors


    Medical or dental treatment and insurance


    Medical suspension payments


    Miners’ coal


    Mobile phones


    O
    Office and workshop equipment and supplies


    Office holders’ payments (honoraria)


    Offshore transfers in the oil and gas industries


    P
    Parking spaces


    Payments for time spent travelling


    Payments in kind that can be cashed in


    Personal bills


    Private use of heavy goods vehicles


    Public transport


    R
    Relocation costs


    Retirement benefit schemes


    S
    Scholarship for an employee’s family member


    School fees for an employee’s child


    Social functions and parties


    Sporting or recreational facilities


    Subscriptions and professional fees


    T
    Third-party awards


    Tips and service charges


    Tool allowances


    Training payments


    Travel


    Trivial benefits


    V
    Vouchers


    W
    Works bus services


    Is there anything wrong with this page?


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    Novice, have you been able to find anything about whether Gerry or Kate McCann are back at work full time or not? I couldn't find anything in that regard.

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    I believe that he is working but not as an nhs consultant - I am choosing not to post his place of work
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    Oh go on?! Is it really incriminating or inappropriate?
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