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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    They didn't give Joel Rifkin or Jeffrey Dahmer the death penalty, so she'll get life in prison.
    Oddly, Rifkin was in the news just a few weeks ago:

    Head found in 1989 IDed, linked to serial killer Joel Rifkin

    Almost 25 years after her severed head was found on a golf course, the woman New Jersey police believe was the first victim of a notorious serial killer has finally been identified.

    State police said Wednesday Heidi Balch is believed to be the first of 17 women killed by Joel Rifkin during a four-year spree that ended in 1993 when he was pulled over for a missing license plate with a dead women's body in the back of his pickup.

    Authorities have long believed the woman whose severed head was found in March 1989 on a golf course in Hopewell Township, near Trenton, was the first woman Rifkin killed. He all but admitted it after his arrest, providing details on where he disposed of her head and legs.

    Rifkin was eventually sentenced to more than 200 years in prison for the killings. But Balch's identity remained a mystery for more than two decades.

    State Police Det. Sgt. Stephen Urbanski said Balch's parents didn't initially list her as a missing person and Balch, who worked as a prostitute in New York City, used numerous aliases and Social Security numbers.
    "It's very rare that you have a story like this," Urbanski said. "The first thing is to ID the body, and then you move on with the investigation, you look at acquaintances and things like that. In this one, the answers were there all along, we just had to put them together."

    Rifkin had told police he killed a prostitute he'd known as "Susie," Urbanski said. The search led to New York where investigators focused on a prostitute who'd gone by the name Susan Spencer — and about 15 other names. Some of the bogus Social Security numbers she'd used were traced to Ohio and Florida, so Urbanski went to those states to check missing persons reports.

    Finally, investigators learned the woman had once used the name Heidi Balch, who had been listed as a missing person in New York by her aunt in 2001. Even that discovery was complicated by the revelation that the last sighting of Balch was in 1995, six years after the remains were found on the golf course. Urbanski said it was later revealed Balch's aunt hadn't actually seen her niece but that someone had mistakenly told her they had seen Heidi.

    The big break came earlier this month when Balch's aunt identified her niece from an arrest photo of Susan Spencer.

    Subsequent DNA tests of Balch's mother and father, who live in Maryland and Florida, respectively, confirmed the identification.

    Balch's parents "expressed shock," Urbanski said. "They knew in their hearts something bad had happened to her, but not to this extent. I don't think they ever imagined she was the first victim of Joel Rifkin."

    Urbanski said state police are in the process of reviewing cases of unidentified bodies found in New Jersey from the time Balch's remains were found up until Rifkin's arrest.

    John Byrne, a spokesman for the Nassau County district attorney's office, which prosecuted Rifkin, said it was too early to make a determination about whether it would seek to prosecute Rifkin in this case.
    "We are still very much in the fact-finding stage," Byrne said.

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    They were at one point (defense team), trying to have the jury consider manslaughter/heat of passion.

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    ^^They still are, along with 2nd degree murder. They way Juan Martinez shredded their all of their arguments in closing, I think they jury will come back with 1st degree felony murder, which carries a life sentence. The lying hag deserves 1st degree premeditated murder, though. I'll be surprised with they go with that. All that planning she did...it's hard to ignore, but with the jury being predominately men, I'll be surprised if they give her death.

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    Women on Death Row. I looked up a few and none of them have been put to death yet. This Brittany did a really vicious murder. She stabbed a man 60 times! I think Jodi was on the stand too long and wasn't presented enough as a vicious killer, but more like a twisted, manipulative liar.

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    well for what it's worth the last woman put on death row in arizona was wendy adriano, her prosecutor was juan martinez and the jury only deliberated for 15 minutes before coming back with a verdict!

    he's gotta be cocky about that lol.

    so like everyone is all worried now because the jury took an hour on friday and all day today to deliberate and all the talking heads are having shit conniptions thinking it's not good for the prosecution.

    i don't know anymore. after casey anthony, i thought she'd at least get child neglect or whatever, no she got set free. gahhh.... don't trust the justice system. they kept so much evidence about jodi back because it was 'too prejudicial', yet misrepresented travis and said really fucking sick things about him that were not true. (eg. his so called 'pedo' letters were found to be forged yet that can't go into evidence about jodi, but they can have her say on the stand she caught him with an actual photo of a boy, after she told her two experts she caught him on the computer looking at boy porn, but of course the computers were found clean so her story changed and the experts claimed they 'must have been mistaken in their notes, and she had said a photo afterall.... just sick)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chalet View Post
    Women on Death Row. I looked up a few and none of them have been put to death yet. This Brittany did a really vicious murder. She stabbed a man 60 times! I think Jodi was on the stand too long and wasn't presented enough as a vicious killer, but more like a twisted, manipulative liar.
    The forensic evidence speaks for itself, though. If knowing that the person on the stand stabbed a person 27 times, slit their throat and shot them in the head isn't sinking in as a vicious killing, I'm not sure what is. Combined with her attempts, before and after, to create an alibi for herself, as well as completely dispose of the weapons, would seem to speak volumes about how premeditated it was. But there are some pretty stupid juries out there.

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    We have a verdict.

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    I hate that I actually care about this......

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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    I hate that I actually care about this......
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairy View Post
    Why?
    Because in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really have much of an effect on me, unlike other things that I barely pay attention to - like the 21 people who are supposed to be operating our nuclear missiles but were found this week to be grossly incompetent.

    I do have to say, though, that I will be severely bummed if someone can kill another person three times over - and cover their tracks both before and after the killing - and then escape a Murder 1 conviction based on an elaborate and totally unsubstantiated self-defense presentation.

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    True. The self defense claim was BS. Would she have stood a better chance pleading insanity from the start?

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    Verdict is due at 4:30 EST.

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    Guilty 1st degree.
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    It is official! Bitch be guilty! Now for the sentence...
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    How long will they manage to drag out the sentencing phase?
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