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    I missed most of the cross exam yesterday, didn't think they would get to that until next week. "Are you mad at me, Mr. Martinez?" He really does have an abrasive style though.

    And I guess ol' Juror #5 just can't stay away. So much for wanting to keep the focus on the trial and not on her. But...she has to consult her "legal advisors" before she talks to the press. Wonder what changed her mind? *cough $$$ cough*

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    When is this thing going to be over???? My gosh...

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    Martinez comment about sparring with the DV expert had me laughing. That is pretty much what he has been doing, he can't get a straight answer from them.
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    I can't watch Martinez anymore. It's exhausting. He scrutinizes not only every answer but every word in each answer. Needling, poking, hammering. If he's getting the results that he wants so that Jodi can be put to death, then good for the prosecution. He creates so much hostility in the defense witnesses, I wonder if the jury is irritated with his method and
    is softening on the side of the defense? Not in the larger sense, but for right now.

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    Laviolette is a stubborn little shit though. This trial would be over by now if she would just answer yes or no. Kidding of course, but they both are driving me nuts.
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    I didn't think of it before, but now that you said it that way maybe she's enjoying her 15 minutes?

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    Maybe for the first zillion days, but he's proving over and over that she may in fact be biased and I bet she's dying to get out of there.
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    Yes or No Yes or No Yes or No Yes or No Yes or No Yes or No Yes or No Yes or No Yes or No

    *screams*
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    This is just insane...and why I stay away from the cray-cray at the crime boards (other than occasional lurking...)

    Arias trial: Witness feels social media’s glare

    Online attacks on defense expert decried as digital ‘lynch mob'


    By Michael KieferThe Republic | azcentral.comThu Apr 11, 2013 7:30 AM

    For three days this week, a domestic-violence expert witness named Alyce LaViolette held her own against prosecutor Juan Martinez in the Jodi Arias murder trial in Maricopa County Superior Court.

    But in cyberspace LaViolette was annihilated.

    The Arias case is an international phenomenon, reduced to a parable of good and evil relayed in 140-character Twitter posts. Travis Alexander, the secret lover she killed in 2008, has become a cause célèbre. Arias has become a pariah, and everyone associated with her is considered evil by thousands in the social-media audience.

    LaViolette took the stand March 26, hired by the defense to convince the jury that Arias was a victim of abuse from Alexander.

    The tweets and other social-media posts began appearing the next week. “You can show your disgust with LaViolette,” they began, and they posted her office phone number and her website, and they suggested that people write negative reviews of her best-selling book on Amazon.com.

    As of Tuesday, there were more than 500, panning the book and calling LaViolette a fraud and a disgrace.

    People also were calling organizations that had booked her for speaking engagements, trying to persuade them to cancel her appearances.

    And on a day when she and Martinez bickered over the meaning of stalking, someone obviously followed her to dinner and later posted photos of her dining with Arias’ defense attorney Jennifer Willmott and one of her legal staff. The photo, posted on at least two Facebook pages devoted to the trial, was accompanied by comments implying that somehow defense attorneys are not allowed to communicate with the experts they hire.

    The barrage of online attacks was the subject of lengthy meetings in a judge’s chambers on Monday. It sent LaViolette to the emergency room last weekend.

    Legal observers are not certain if it constitutes witness tampering, slander or just an expression of free speech.

    “It’s the electronic version of a lynch mob,” retired Maricopa County Superior Court Judge Kenneth Fields said.

    But it is probably a taste of the future.

    Sree Sreenivasan, chief digital officer and professor of journalism at Columbia University, said he had never seen anything like the attacks on LaViolette.
    “This is a logical extension of witness intimidation, taken to an extreme conclusion,” he said.

    But he believes we will see it again.

    “I imagine this is going to be standard operating procedure in prominent cases,” he said.

    Jodi Arias, 32, admits killing Alexander, 30, but she claims she did so in self-defense. He was found in June 2008 in the shower of his Mesa home, with nearly 30 stab wounds, a bullet in the head and a slit throat.

    The case evidence has played out in digital format, from steamy photos and an X-rated phone call recorded on a mobile phone to hundreds of text messages, instant messages, e-mails, MySpace pages and blog posts.

    It has spawned a social-media subculture of followers who chronicle the trial on Twitter and Facebook, with pages that support Alexander or condemn Arias. Martinez has been raised to folk-hero status, frequently edited into photos with Alexander to make it look as if the two are standing arm in arm. Tweets fly every day during the trial, exchanging conspiracy theories, mostly praising Martinez and damning the Arias defense team.

    The group following the case on social media has not been content to merely watch the trial. It has decided to take part.

    LaViolette, 65, has worked as a counselor and psychotherapist for battered women since 1978. She has founded programs in domestic abuse, written books about the subject, given speeches at conferences and testified as an expert witness in trials.

    During her testimony in the Arias trial, she described domestic abuse, and then walked the jury through why she felt that Arias had been controlled, manipulated and physically, sexually and emotionally abused by Alexander. Martinez has fought her bitterly, questioning her theories and her credentials, trying to make her crack and bumble as he had done to earlier witnesses. LaViolette, who spent a career counseling aggressive people, did not back down.

    Since Martinez began cross-examining LaViolette late last week, the two have traded insults like boxers throwing kidney punches in the clinch. The slugfest was a stalemate, and trial watchers saw what they wanted to see: Martinez bobbing and weaving with rapid-fire questions that he demanded be answered by yes or no; LaViolette standing her ground and occasionally stinging Martinez with jabs like, “If you were in my group, Mr. Martinez, I would ask you to take a time out.”

    The cybermob took up the Twitter suggestions to harass LaViolette.

    “Shame on you Alyce!!! I hope Jodi gets the death penalty and you watch your career flush down the toilet,” a person named Carol wrote as a review to LaViolette’s book, “It Could Happen To Anyone: Why Battered Women Stay.”

    They have attacked other parts of her career.

    “I’ve been contacted by numerous people asking that she be removed from our speaker’s list,” said Rick Kenworthy of ABIP Training in Los Angeles, an organization that provides training for abuse counselors.

    One of LaViolette’s friends, who asked not to be identified for fear of retribution, said that LaViolette was getting countless angry phone calls and e-mails at her office in Long Beach, Calif., at least one of which was serious enough that her colleagues contacted police.

    The friend said that the stress of the harassment had driven LaViolette to the emergency room last weekend for anxiety attacks and palpitations.

    Opinions differ on whether the treatment of LaViolette constitutes witness tampering and whether anything can or should be done to stop it. In Arizona it is a felony to tamper with or influence a witness.

    “I think it’s an effort to dissuade the witness from testifying free of outside influence,” David Derickson, a former Superior Court judge who now practices law, said of the attacks on LaViolette.

    But what can be done, especially if it’s coming from other states, even other countries?

    Fields, the retired judge said, “If it’s just the general public and there’s no intention (by the prosecution), then there’s nothing to be done about it.”

    Derickson also wondered if it constituted slander. “They’re trying to destroy her reputation,” he said.

    Fields thought one solution would be to turn off the TV cameras. “I think we’re going to have to revisit the policy of televised trials,” he said.

    But David Bodney, a First Amendment attorney who represents The Arizona Republic, balked at that idea.

    “I think it’s entirely unfair to blame camera coverage for a group of persons who are expressing their views,” he said. “The court has the authority to take steps to protect that witness from threats and other misconduct.

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    ^Crazy. I got my hopes when they mentioned closing arguments. I thought that we were finally coming to the end.

    ETA: Juror questions- hope its short and to the point.

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    I heard Nancy Grace say Laviolette was getting $300 an hour to do this. Is that crazy high for someone like her? I have no idea. But if it's true her never ever answering a question as asked surely padded her paycheck hugely.
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    I think the expert fee is probably pretty reasonable, some will charge upwards of $2000 per hour. Wondering who's paying it since she's been on the stand for what, 3 weeks now?
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    Jodi's defense is being paid for by the taxpayers of AZ. Upwards of 1.5 million last I heard. Her attorneys are being paid an hourly fee as well.
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    I just can't reconcile Laviolette's analysis with all the other evidence available in the trial. But first, I have a question: Was the bulk of Laviolette's interviewing of Arias during the period when Arias was still lying her ass off about her involvement in Travis' death? And if so, how could her diagnosis be credible? To me, it would just be as suspect as the conclusion that Samuels came to when he interviewed Arias.

    In addition, I don't see how Laviolette's analysis could possibly be accurate, or supported by the evidence, if the actual forensics at the crime scene show that Travis was actually stabbed before he was shot (the bullet being on top of the blood instead of below it). Coupled with the fact that the bulk of Travis' knife wounds were in his back and not the front. It doesn't support the idea, at all, that there was a violent confrontation initiated by Travis before Jodi killed him. To me, it sounds more like she nailed him a bunch of times in the back first, with one of them probably already being a mortal blow (like severing a pulmonary artery) and that he was probably starting to bleed out before he could even turn around.

    Also, I am really getting weary of Martinez's style. I have seen only a fraction of the trial, but is he ALWAYS shouting his questions at people? To me, it's almost he's at a constant crescendo, where the prosecutor gives the final gotcha question and the trial is essentially over. But when you do that, and the person squirrels out of it, it makes you sometimes look ill prepared.

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    LaViolette said she first interviewed Jodi in jail in Oct 2011. So I'm thinking it was after the defense shifted to self-defense. I remember that Samuels was on board earlier, when she was still sticking to her ninja story, because he discussed it on the stand.

    I think Martinez is always that way, I saw a clip on HLN from another trial and it was the same YES OR NO staccato. He supposedly has a great track record as a prosecutor, but I agree, he just never lets up.
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