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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseguy View Post
    Her behaviour is one of cover ups and lies. Meredith took two hours to bleed to death. The coroner concluded that Meredith tried to save her own life by covering her neck wounds with her hands.

    Amanda did nothing at all to help Meredith afterwards. The next day at the police station, the other room mates were shocked at Amanda's lack of remorse over their room mates' murder. (Amanda did cartwheels at the police station). Within 24 hours of the murder, she was laughing and acting inappropriately while at a lingerie store. These are the actions of a cold blooded sociopath who was uncaring over the brutal rape and murder of her room mate.
    That's just awful. Poor Meredith. No one should have to suffer like that.
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    ewwww uck! yeah, poor girl. thats sickening.

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    Amanda is a pretty sociopath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharky View Post
    Amanda is a pretty sociopath.
    Yeah, she does look like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth with her "angelic" face. This kinda makes you see she's got another side:



    No big deal on it's own, but there is no doubt in my mind she's a sociopath.

    Amanda has not made herself popular with other inmates either:
    Cellmates of Amanda Knox, the American student suspected of involvement in the murder of Meredith Kercher in Perugia last November, have pleaded with prison authorities to stop her repeatedly singing the Beatles’ classic “Let it Be” at the top of her voice.
    Father Scarabattoli, the prison chaplain at Perugia, said Ms Knox, 20, from Seattle, had asked for a guitar so she could play the song as well a sing it, but this had been refused. Inmates have complained that Ms Knox sings the song all day long, with one jailer reported as agreeing with them that it “drives you mad”.
    Times Online
    This is a photo of Raphaello (Amanda's boyfriend who received a sentence of 25 years for his part in the murder) posing with a meat cleaver and a bottle of bleach on his website.



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    ^^Pink bleach?

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    ^ That's what I thought...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mivvi21 View Post
    ^^Pink bleach?
    Must be an Italian thing. They like things more perky than we do.
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    I'm not saying the picture isnt creepy - but is it for Halloween or something?

    I mean, if you're gonna hack someone to bits, why dress in all white?
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    What the hell? Why is he posing like that. And that's not bleach it couldn't stay pink if it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by collateral damage View Post
    What the hell? Why is he posing like that. And that's not bleach it couldn't stay pink if it was.
    I don't know - I've had purple bleach.

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    Curious about this bit from Wiki

    Prosecutor under indictment According to CNN, the head prosecutor, Giuliano Mignini, was under indictment, during the trial, for prosecutorial misconduct in a prior trial.[95] He has been charged with "abuse of power, obstructing justice and illegal wiretapping" of journalists, while investigating the "Monster of Florence" serial-killer case in the 1980s.[121] (the Monster of Florence, Francesco Narducci, allegedly killed 14 people during 1974-1985, but he was found drowned in a Perugia lake). The prosecutors in Florence have also claimed that Giuliano Mignini used intimidation and falsified evidence,[100][122] and they are requesting a 10-month jail term for Mignini, but the ruling expected in May 2009, has been delayed until after the Knox/Sollecito trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by collateral damage View Post
    What the hell? Why is he posing like that. And that's not bleach it couldn't stay pink if it was.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kittylady View Post
    I don't know - I've had purple bleach.
    Bleach is sometimes different colors in different countries. Isn't Clorox blue or blue-toned?
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    ^^ I don't know - it was just some lavender scented stuff that was on cheap somewhere so I bought it. It cleaned the loo just fine so thats all I cared about lol.

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    Update: Amanda Knox is now facing slander allegations:
    October 1, 2010 3:59 PM
    Amanda Knox Slander Trial: Knox Appears in Court, Arguments Set for November



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    PERUGIA, Italy (CBS) Arguments in the slander trial against Amanda Knox, the American exchange student convicted of murdering her British roommate in Perugia, Italy, have been scheduled for Nov. 8 by an Italian judge.

    The slander case is based on statements Knox made about her Nov. 2007 interrogation as a possible witness after the discovery of the body of her housemate, Briton Meredith Kercher.

    Francesco Maresca, the attorney for the eight police officers listed on the request for trial filed Friday, told the Seattle Post Intelligencer that the complaint was "all based on what she [Knox] said herself on the stand on the 12 and 13th of June."

    "I was very, very scared because they were treating me so badly and I didn't understand why," Knox previously told the court. She said she only confessed to being in the house at the time of the murder after she was hit by police.

    Knox appeared visibly "drawn and pale" when she appeared in court Friday for a hearing in the slander case, according to CBS' The Early Show. Her parents, Curt Knox and Edda Mellas, told the morning show that they have tried to keep their spirits up despite what they feel is "almost...harassment" of their daughter by the police and prosecutors.

    "We have to find a way to keep going, we're not leaving our innocent daughter in jail for a crime she didn't commit," Mellas said.
    Maresca is also the attorney representing the Kercher family in their civil suit against Knox for their daughter's murder. Additionally the judge overseeing the slander case is handling Knox's criminal appeal, prompting many observers to claim a touch of deja vu, according to the Early Show. Although arguments are scheduled to be heard in November the actual trial may not take place until after Knox's criminal appeal has been heard and ruled on, which may not happen until January, according to the Post Intelligencer. If she wins the appeal the slander charges may be shelved, however the prosecutor appears determined to pursue the charges in order to prove Knox was not mistreated, the paper reported.

    "It is not that it is important for the police department or for any of the individual officers, but rather for an overall sense of justice and for establishing the truth," prosecutor Manuela Comodi told the paper.
    Meanwhile, Knox's attorneys say prison is taking its toll on the young American student.

    "She's very down," her lawyer, Maria del Grosso of Rome told the Post Intelligencer. "I've told her to be tough. It won't help to fall apart now. "
    Knox was convicted and sentenced to 26 years in prison last December, for the 2007 murder of Meredith Kercher.

    Amanda Knox Slander Trial: Knox Appears in Court, Arguments Set for November - Crimesider - CBS News


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    Evidence retested in case of American convicted of murder in Italy

    Perugia, Italy (CNN) -- Amanda Knox, the American convicted in December 2009 of the sexual assault and murder of her British roommate in Italy, is "cautiously optimistic" as she begins the lengthy appellate process in Perugia, Italy, her best friend Madison Paxton said on Saturday.

    Two forensic experts from Rome's La Sapienza University were sworn in Saturday by Italian judge Claudio Pratillo Hellman, taking an oath to uphold objectivity as they retest crucial forensic evidence used to convict Knox, 23, and her former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito, of killing Meredith Kercher in Perugia.

    The experts' work begins on February 9 and they must conclude their analysis by May 9. Results will be presented to the two-judge and six layperson jury on May 21.

    Carla Vecchioti and Stefano Conti, both professors of forensic science at La Sapienza University in Rome, will test the validity of the forensic results of two controversial forensic exhibits from Knox's trial.

    The first is a knife found in Sollecito's apartment with Knox's DNA on the handle and what Perugia prosecutors say is Kercher's DNA in a tiny groove on the blade. The prosecution contends that the knife was used to stab Kercher in the neck and that it had been cleaned and the DNA matter attributed to Kercher consists of flesh, not blood.

    The sample, however, was so small that forensic scientists investigating Kercher's murder were not able to double test it in accordance with international forensic science norms, which Knox's legal team says raises doubts about its validity.

    Conti asked the Perugia judge if he and his colleague could disassemble the knife, removing the handle from the blade, to see if there is other forensic evidence that has not been tested.

    Judge Hellman reserved the right to pass judgement on that decision until a later date, telling Conti that she could petition the court for permission to take the knife apart if necessary.

    The second piece of evidence the forensic experts will test is the tiny metal clasp from Kercher's bra, which was cut from her body after her murder.

    Forensic scientists in the investigatory phase determined that Sollecito's DNA is present on the metal clasp. The clasp was identified on an investigatory video tape on November 2, 2007, when Kercher's body was found. But the clasp was not collected until nearly six weeks later, giving the defense cause to question whether the sample may have been contaminated.

    Sollecito's DNA was also found on a cigarette butt in the house where Kercher was murdered, but nowhere else.

    Jude Hellman ruled that testimony from several key witnesses could be heard during the lengthy appellate process. On March 12 and 26, the court will hear testimony from Antonio Curatolo, a homeless man who testified during the criminal trial that he saw Knox and Sollecito near the crime scene the night of the murder.

    Curatolo, who is also facing trial on separate drug charges, said during the initial criminal trial that the same night he saw Knox and Sollecito he also saw student revelers waiting for shuttle buses headed to Perugia's discotheques.

    Judge Hellman granted the defense's request to hear testimony from both the bus drivers and disco owners, who will testify that the discos were closed the night Kercher was murdered because of the religious All Saint's holiday.

    Hellman has not yet ruled on whether to hear testimony from Rudy Guede, the third man convicted of Kercher's murder. Guede chose a fast-track trial and was convicted in October 28, 2008 and sentenced to 30 years for his part in Kercher's murder.

    His sentence was reduced to 16 years on appeal in December 2009 and then upheld by Italy's high court of appeal in December 2010.

    Italy's high court ruled that Guede acted as one of three conspirators in Kercher's murder. Hellman has granted the prosecution the right to have the appellate court consider the high court ruling in Knox's and Sollecito's current appeal.

    Knox's stepfather Chris Mellas told reporters in Perugia Saturday that Knox is hopeful that the appellate judge will overturn her conviction and send her home.

    "She's doing well and is happy it's going her way," he told reporters in the courtroom. "But she is also apprehensive." The court is not expected to make a final ruling on the appeal until next summer.

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