If they didn't kill her, I believe they know who did. Bed wetting is a pain in the rear, especially for a person that demanded perfection like Patsy. Beauty queens can't tee tee on their ruffle panties, you know.
^Aha, and Jonbenet had to wear big ugly pull ups that added unnecessary bulk to her clothes.
hard to sparkle in a diaper, plus then the swimsuit competition is totally out. Might as well turn in your fake tanner and flipper at that point.
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Dammit, there are certain unsolved cases that I periodically get obsessed with, and because of this thread, I'm about to get into this one again.
I have been on either side of the fence (regarding the Ramsey's guilt or innocence) so many times. I would get convinced one way, then read the other side's point of view & become convinced of that. At one point, I'm pretty sure that I had read everything there was available for public consumption regarding this case, and one thing that I just could not feel comfortable having explained away was the handwriting of the ransom note. It was disappointing, because at the time, I was on the innocent side of the fence. Saw the handwriting compared to Patsy's, and I will never feel 100% confident of her innocence again. John's, maybe. Not Patsy.
Analysis of the Linguistics and Handwriting in the Ramsey Ransom Note - Forums For Justice
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^^ I know what you mean. I hate to think they killed their own child (or at least knew what happened), but there's just too much that doesn't add up.
Boy, the handwriting is so spot on. And even the use of exclamation marks; they were alot of those in the note, and Patsy used them alot in her holiday letters and things. I'm sorry but I have no doubt in my mind that Patsy wrote that note. They even found practice notes in the house; I really doubt an intruder would bother with that.
The experts were split on the author of the ransom note, but more thought Patsy did write it than didn't. The semi-official BPD line was "Patsy can't be ruled out as the author of the note".
One of the experts Don Foster, who said Patsy did write the note, is an interesting case.
Drama and the Ramsey murder ransom note.
More drama over the note.
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Okay, I just finished that whole Nancy Krebs interview. That is some completely messed up stuff she was talking about. I can't tell if she's just been so badly beaten down her entire life or if she's partly crazy. I think it's the former. Poor lady sounds like she had a completely horrific childhood/teenage years. She can't even think straight half the time.
But, from what she described near the bottom of the transcript it sounds like that could have happened to JonBenet as well, ie. the strangulation while being molested.
I don't understand how the women in these families allow such terrible things to happen to their daughters. You would think they would do anything to protect them. My only guess is that along with being a molester the husbands were also massively abusive and would threaten anything to have their wife cooperate. It's really disgusting.
patsy got what she deserved in the end.
The bolded part I promised to revisit concerned Nancy's little niece. Remember the parts of the transcripts describing what happened with her? She was five years old at the time of the murder and was according to Nancy present at the White's Christmas party along with her grandmother, Nancy's mother Gwen. A couple of years later, a picture of Barbie sent the little girl off into hysterics where she was screaming over and over "they killed the little girl". This is the main reason Nancy came forward, out of mortal fear for her niece. Curiously, the little girl was taken to Germany by her mother not too long after Nancy came forward to the police. The little niece has to this day never been allowed to speak with investigators. As far as I know, the police never checked to see if Gwen traveled to Colorado around Christmas that year. Also curiously, Nancy's sister and niece lived in nearby Arvada, Colorado at the time.
I'm lazy-- can someone link me to information about fibers from Patsy's clothes on the garrote and fibers from John's in the underwear? Because that would absolutely be probable cause to arrest right there. UNLESS the fibers were only "consistent with" J & P's clothes because said fibers are so common, for instance. Fiber evidence can actually be quite weak and unreliable. But I'd like to see more about that.
Also, I just inherently have a hard time believing any child abuse ring/ritual/cult-type stuff. It would be way too easy for one person to talk and for it all to be exposed. Plus all the hysteria and witch-hunting over it in the past that's proven to be unfounded.
BUT I just don't know what to believe anymore.
Santa is an elitist mother fucker -- giving expensive shit to rich kids and nothing to poor kids.
Yes it is hard to believe in those sex rings, but they do exist, and no, people do not talk about them. Why would they? The consequences would be enormous, both from law enforcement and from fellow cult members. I do not know to this day what has become of Nancy Krebs. And that is another thing-law enforcement often does not believe these claims, so there is no upside to reporting these activities.
Here are some links to information on verified pedo rings: (The first is not a "ring" as far as I know, but it concerns an establishment type who got away with horrific abuse for many, many years just because of who he was. THAT is what shields these people in many cases. They are not scraggly, low class clowns-they are people in positions of authority and respect. Just like the Ramsey's)
Warning: Very Disturbing
The Establishment Pedophile: How a monster hid in high society
Global Pedophile Ring Busted
Celebs named in Portugal sex probe, Yearlong Probe at State Children's Home ends with ten charged
And the most comprehensive report on elite pedophiles I have yet come across:
Warning: Very distrubing:
The Pedophocracy <<please scroll down to the bottom of this article for links to parts 2-6 of this series.
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