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    ^ Oh I agree, there was just some things I read about one of them/ something they said, that made me wonder. I *hope* that none of them knew about it.

    I wonder how long it will until the trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarzy View Post
    So he admits they were motivated by religion?
    Given all the fictional stuff reported in this case, I don't know if he admitted anything or if this is another piece of crap. And I hate the "news" people for that. I'd like to see an actual interview with some named interrogator.
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    I know people want to know why these boys did this but the truth is that they DID this.
    I think the why is important not in case it gives any clues to preventing further incidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    Given all the fictional stuff reported in this case, I don't know if he admitted anything or if this is another piece of crap. And I hate the "news" people for that. I'd like to see an actual interview with some named interrogator.
    I think the why is important not in case it gives any clues to preventing further incidents.
    Agree about the reporting in this case. I feel for the family of these guys because they are going to catch so much shit for this - even if they aren't (and I don't think they were) involved. The media has incited hate and anger towards these people in a very irresponsible way - and NOT just in this particular incident. The real bitch of it is that nothing seems to be being done about this.
    I don't know how important the "why" of this can be when nobody seems to have seen this coming. I mean, how are you going to prevent something that nobody expected? If this truly surprised everyone who knows these people (and honestly, who is going to say "well, I thought they were headed in this direction" after what they did?) then how in the hell is it preventable?
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    It may not be. Still have to try.

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    Interview with their mother - "my boys" wouldn't do anything like that. I know "my boys" and they wouldn't have done this. Sssssuuuuuuuuuure.

    Terrorism - if you do something to me and I'm terrified, you're a terrorist. Doesn't matter if you held up a 7-11, held me hostage, or blew up something. [/dictionary of Brookie]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellatheball View Post
    What strikes me is that people were VERY quick to call this terrorism once the bombers' names were released.
    They labelled it terrorism pretty much immediately after it happened, before anyone knew who was responsible, so it definitely wasn't racial/religious profiling in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeChayz View Post
    They labelled it terrorism pretty much immediately after it happened, before anyone knew who was responsible, so it definitely wasn't racial/religious profiling in this case.
    I know there were different issues involved, but I recall that Obama got a ton of criticism for not referring to the violence at the embassy in Benghazi as terrorism right away. I think that kind of upped the ante for situations like these. It's kind of ridiculous.

    On another note, I read in the Globe today that suspect #2 has been mirandized.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BBDSP View Post
    I know there were different issues involved, but I recall that Obama got a ton of criticism for not referring to the violence at the embassy in Benghazi as terrorism right away. I think that kind of upped the ante for situations like these. It's kind of ridiculous.

    On another note, I read in the Globe today that suspect #2 has been mirandized.
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    Man,those cops are all heros. Those pictures that guy took from his 3rd floor window are stunning. I hope the cop that got shot will be OK,but they were saying it took 45 minutes to get him back after almost total blood loss.
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    I hate that every arm chair detective went on digital media and stated their thoughts as facts. A young man from my town has been missing since March 16th. His family are the sweetest people and they are going through hell. They were then confronted by press when some asshole decided the pictures of the suspects looked like Sunhill. They were harrassed by the public and the press. Meanwhile Sunhil is still missing.

    My Innocent Brother Was Made Into a Bombing Suspect: Sunil Tripathi's Sister Speaks
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    In the aftermath of Monday's Boston Marathon attack, a heaving pile of junk information clouded the breaking news reports. Casualty figures were botched, the number of explosive devices was misreported, and suspects were wrongly identified. On that last front, one of the families deeply affected by the press and public's false conclusions was that of Sunil Tripathi, a 22-year-old Brown University philosophy student who went missing on March 16.

    Sunil's family, who live in Radnor Township, Pennsylvania, and describe him as "kind, gentle, and shy," had launched a social-media campaign to find him; their Facebook page garnered nearly a quarter million views in the first week of his disappearance. As the police search for Sunil expanded, his story began to make national news last month with mentions from Fox News, ABC News, the Boston Globe, and other outlets.

    The Tripathi family's ordeal collided with the Boston bombings shortly after the FBI released images of the two suspects late Thursday. Reddit and other popular social-media platforms, already abuzz with theories of suspicious characters caught on camera near the bomb sites, embarked on a mission to ID the two young men. One of the young women who went to high school with Sunil thought she recognized him from one of the photos released by the FBI. Redditors also picked up on the supposed likeness, and by the evening Reddit and Twitter (on which "Sunil Tripathi" would soon trend worldwide) had exploded with the theory. By about 7:30 p.m. EDT, the Tripathi family began to be flooded with calls, Facebook posts, and harassing emails raising the allegation. The family suspended the Facebook page at around 10 p.m., flagged the messages, and reached out to law enforcement agencies, including the FBI.

    "The hardest part of this was how far from any actual evidence there actually was, and how quickly and how painfully this traveled."Many national and local reporters caught wind of the Reddit-powered theory, and by Friday morning roughly a dozen news vans had parked themselves at the Tripathi residence in Radnor eager to question the family. (All of this, even though Sunil's Tripathi's name was never once mentioned on the Boston police scanner prior to the initial suspicions on Twitter.)

    "We were hoping the Boston investigation was advancing fast enough that it would publicly prove what [my family] all knew," Sangeeta Tripathi, Sunil's sister (a 2004 Brown graduate who now works as an NGO public health professional), tells me. "The hardest part of this was how far from any actual evidence there actually was, and how quickly and how painfully this traveled…We find it incredibly unfortunate that media outlets were so quick to jump without checking with authorities, but we hope they use the same energy and intensity they showed in the past 24 hours to really help us find Sunil."

    After hours of fevered speculation, early on Friday morning NBC's Pete Williams batted down the rumors, and broke the news that authorities had identified brothers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev as the primary suspects.

    The moderator of the "FindBostonBombers" subreddit page (going by the name "Rather_Confused") released a statement apologizing: "This event shows exactly why the no personal information until confirmation rule is in place. Out of respect for Tripathi and his family, I ask that users here please remove any and all links about him."

    I asked Sangeeta if her family had yet received any apologies from news organizations whose employees (including BuzzFeed and Politico) helped push the erroneous ID. "No, we have not," she says. "Apologies have been limited to particular individuals and a few network-based responses, including the Reddit apology."

    As the Boston Marathon manhunt winds down, the Tripathi family's nightmare continues. Sunil Tripathi remains missing; authorities do not suspect foul play, and an FBI forensic analysis turned up zero clues to his whereabouts.

    "Every minute is extremely difficult to maintain hope," Sangeeta says. "But we hope that the other side of this very, very, very sharp sword is that we have more eyes on [Sunil's story]."

    The family has launched another campaign on Facebook encouraging supporters to write messages of love and encouragement on their hands and post the photos online. Sangeeta tells me that they had planned to start this campaign on Tuesday, but benched the idea after the bombing. They had no way of knowing that the two stories would become so harrowingly, and so wrongly, intertwined.

    UPDATE (3:11 p.m. EDT, 4/22): Brian Ries, senior social-media editor at Newsweek / The Daily Beast emailed me the following:

    Saw your story on Sunil's sister and I want to offer the family an apology. I was one of the tweeters who mistakenly helped spread the meme her brother's name was mentioned on the scanner. Might you share her email?

    My Innocent Brother Was Made Into a Bombing Suspect: Sunil Tripathi's Sister Speaks | Mother Jones
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel1973 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    I hate that every arm chair detective went on digital media and stated their thoughts as facts. A young man from my town has been missing since March 16th. His family are the sweetest people and they are going through hell. They were then confronted by press when some asshole decided the pictures of the suspects looked like Sunhill. They were harrassed by the public and the press. Meanwhile Sunhil is still missing.
    I don't know. Armchair detectives are always going to speculate. We do it here all the time. They aren't the ones who parked their news trucks in front of this poor family's house and harassed them.

    And now the press has the gall to blame social media for the misinformation. The New York Post, of all things, has a video on their site claiming that social media does more harm than good during events like this.
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    The Post. The NY version of the Daily Mail.
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    I read some interesting things about the wife. I'm not sure where I read it and I looked for the article, but I thought it said that she had been living with her parents in Rhode Island before the bombings and that the daughter lived with the father (Tamerlan) because she worked 7 days a week. That's very interesting.

    Oh, here's the link to the CNN article.

    Boston bombing suspect's wife 'very distraught,' lawyer says - CNN.com

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