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    cop's name finally released

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    Darren Wilson.
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    The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie - The Daily Beast



    The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie

    The officers got the wrong man, but charged him anyway—with getting his blood on their uniforms. How the Ferguson PD ran the town where Michael Brown was gunned down.

    Police in Ferguson, Missouri, once charged a man with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms while four of them allegedly beat him.

    “On and/or about the 20th day of Sept. 20, 2009 at or near 222 S. Florissant within the corporate limits of Ferguson, Missouri, the above named defendant did then and there unlawfully commit the offense of ‘property damage’ to wit did transfer blood to the uniform,” reads the charge sheet.

    The address is the headquarters of the Ferguson Police Department, where a 52-year-old welder named Henry Davis was taken in the predawn hours on that date. He had been arrested for an outstanding warrant that proved to actually be for another man of the same surname, but a different middle name and Social Security number.

    “I said, ‘I told you guys it wasn't me,’” Davis later testified.

    He recalled the booking officer saying, “We have a problem.”

    The booking officer had no other reason to hold Davis, who ended up in Ferguson only because he missed the exit for St. Charles and then pulled off the highway because the rain was so heavy he could not see to drive. The cop who had pulled up behind him must have run his license plate and assumed he was that other Henry Davis. Davis said the cop approached his vehicle, grabbed his cellphone from his hand, cuffed him and placed him in the back seat of the patrol car, without a word of explanation.

    But the booking officer was not ready just to let Davis go, and proceeded to escort him to a one-man cell that already had a man in it asleep on the lone bunk. Davis says that he asked the officer if he could at least have one of the sleeping mats that were stacked nearby.

    ”He said I wasn’t getting one,” Davis said.

    Davis balked at being a second man in a one-man cell.

    “Because it’s 3 in the morning,” he later testified. “Who going to sleep on a cement floor?”

    The booking officer summoned a number of fellow cops. One opened the cell door while another suddenly charged, propelling Davis inside and slamming him against the back wall.

    “I told the police officers there that I didn’t do nothing, ‘Why is you guys doing this to me?’” Davis testified. “They said, ‘OK, just lay on the ground and put your hands behind your back.’”

    Davis said he complied and that a female officer straddled and then handcuffed him. Two other officers crowded into the cell.

    “They started hitting me,” he testified. “I was getting hit and I just covered up.”

    The other two stepped out and the female officer allegedly lifted Davis’ head as the cop who had initially pushed him into the cell reappeared.

    “He ran in and kicked me in the head,” Davis recalled. “I almost passed out at that point… Paramedics came… They said it was too much blood, I had to go to the hospital.”

    A patrol car took the bleeding Davis to a nearby emergency room. He refused treatment, demanding somebody first take his picture.
    “I wanted a witness and proof of what they done to me,” Davis said.

    He was driven back to the jail, where he was held for several days before he posted $1,500 bond on four counts of “property damage.” Police Officer John Beaird had signed complaints swearing on pain of perjury that Davis had bled on his uniform and those of three fellow officers.

    The remarkable turned inexplicable when Beaird was deposed in a civil case that Davis subsequently brought seeking redress and recompense.

    Schottel figures the courts might take the problems of the Ferguson Police Department as more than de minimis as a result of the protests sparked when an officer shot and killed an unarmed 18-year-old named Michael Brown.

    “After Mr. Davis was detained, did you have any blood on you?” asked Davis’ lawyer, James Schottel.

    “No, sir,” Beaird replied.

    Schottel showed Beaird a copy of the “property damage” complaint.

    “Is that your signature as complainant?” the lawyer asked.

    “It is, sir,” the cop said.

    “And what do you allege that Mr. Davis did unlawfully in this one?” the lawyer asked.

    “Transferred blood to my uniform while Davis was resisting,” the cop said.

    “And didn’t I ask you earlier in this deposition if Mr. Davis got blood on your uniform?”

    “You did, sir.”

    “And didn’t you respond no?”

    “Correct. I did.”

    Beaird seemed to be either admitting perjury or committing it. The depositions of other officers suggested that the “property damage” charges were not just bizarre, but trumped up.
    “There was no blood on my uniform,” said Police Officer Christopher Pillarick.

    And then there was Officer Michael White, the one accused of kicking Davis in the head, an allegation he denies, as his fellow officers deny striking Davis. White had reported suffering a bloody nose in the mayhem.
    “Did you see Mr. Davis bleeding at all?” the lawyer, Schottel, asked.

    “I did not,” White replied.

    “Did Mr. Davis get any blood on you while you were in the cell?” Schottel asked.

    “No,” White said.

    The contradictions between the complaint and the depositions apparently are what prompted the prosecutor to drop the “property damage” allegation. The prosecutor also dropped a felony charge of assault on an officer that had been lodged more than a year after the incident and shortly after Davis filed his civil suit.

    Davis suggested in his testimony that if the police really thought he had assaulted an officer he would have been charged back when he was jailed.
    “They would have filed those charges right then and there, because that’s a major felony,” he noted.

    Indisputable evidence of what transpired in the cell might have been provided by a surveillance camera, but it turned out that the VHS video was recorded at 32 times normal speed.

    “It was like a blur,” Schottel told The Daily Beast on Wednesday. “You couldn't see anything.”

    The blur proved to be from 12 hours after the incident anyway. The cops had saved the wrong footage after Schottel asked them to preserve it.

    Schottel got another unpleasant surprise when he sought the use-of-force history of the officers involved. He learned that before a new chief took over in 2010 the department had a surprising protocol for non-fatal use-of-force reports.

    “The officer himself could complete it and give it to the supervisor for his approval,” the prior chief, Thomas Moonier, testified in a deposition. “I would read it. It would be placed in my out basket, and my secretary would probably take it and put it with the case file.”

    No copy was made for the officer’s personnel file.

    “Everything involved in an incident would generally be with the police report,” Moonier said. “I don’t know what they maintain in personnel files.”

    “Who was in charge of personnel files, of maintaining them?” Schottel asked.

    “I have no idea,” Moonier said. “I believe City Hall, but I don’t know.”

    Schottel focused on the date of the incident.

    “On September 20th, 2009, was there any way to identify any officers that were subject of one or more citizens’ complaints?” he asked.
    “Not to my knowledge,” Moonier said.

    “Was there any way to identify any officers who had completed several use-of-force reports?”
    “I don’t recall.”

    But however lax the department’s system and however contradictory the officers’ testimony, a federal magistrate ruled that the apparent perjury about the “property damage” charges was too minor to constitute a violation of due process and that Davis’ injuries were de minimis—too minor to warrant a finding of excessive force. Never mind that a CAT scan taken after the incident confirmed that he had suffered a concussion.

    Schottel has appealed and expects to argue the case in December. He will contend that perjury is perjury however minor the charge and note that both the NFL and Major League Baseball have learned to consider a concussion a serious injury.

    Schottel figures the courts might take the problems of the Ferguson Police Department as more than de minimis as a result of the protests sparked when an officer shot and killed an unarmed 18-year-old named Michael Brown on the afternoon of Aug. 9.

    “Your chances on appeal are going up,” a fellow lawyer told him.

    At least one witness has said that Brown was shot in the back and then in the chest and head as he turned toward the officer with his hands raised.

    “I said, ‘Well, that doesn’t surprise me,’” Schottel told The Daily Beast on Wednesday. “I said I already know about Ferguson, nothing new can faze me about Ferguson.”

    Schottel has also deposed the new chief, Thomas Jackson, who took over in 2010. Jackson testified that he has instituted a centralized system whereby all complaints lodged against cops by citizens or supervisors go through him and are assigned a number in an internal affairs log. Schottel views Jackson as “not a bad guy,” someone who has been trying to make positive change.

    “He wants to do right, but it was such a mess,” Schottel said Wednesday.

    Jackson has seemed less than progressive as he delayed identifying the officer involved in the shooting for fear it would place him and his family in danger. Jackson would only say the officer is white and has been on the job for six years. This means that for his first two and most formative years the officer might have been writing his own force reports and that none of them went into his file.

    “It’s hard to get people to clean things up, especially if they’re used to doing things a certain way,” Schottel said.

    On Friday, police finally identified the officer as Darren Wilson, who is said to have no disciplinary record, as such records are kept in Ferguson. We already know that he started out at a time when it was accepted for a Ferguson cop to charge somebody with property damage for bleeding on his uniform and later saying there was no blood on him at all.
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    ^^Jesus fucking christ

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    Raw Video: Surveillance video believed to show Michael Brown robbing convenience store | FOX2now.com

    Raw Video: Surveillance video believed to show Michael Brown robbing convenience store
    POSTED 12:41 PM, AUGUST 15, 2014, BY VERA CULLEY, UPDATED AT 12:53PM, AUGUST 15, 2014
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    (KTVI) – Ferguson police released video of a suspect wanted for robbing a convenience store just minutes before Michael Brown was shot and killed by a Ferguson Police officer.

    Authorities believe it is Brown in the video. According to the police report, Brown allegedly stole a pack of cigars and strong-armed a clerk who was trying to stop him before leaving the convenience store.

    Brown was later shot and killed after a short struggle with officer Darren Wilson.

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    Dont know how to embed the video. Guess he wasm't such an innocent.

    Thats all.
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    Yes, how very deserving of death, to steal some cigars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockchick View Post
    Raw Video: Surveillance video believed to show Michael Brown robbing convenience store | FOX2now.com

    Raw Video: Surveillance video believed to show Michael Brown robbing convenience store
    POSTED 12:41 PM, AUGUST 15, 2014, BY VERA CULLEY, UPDATED AT 12:53PM, AUGUST 15, 2014
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    (KTVI) – Ferguson police released video of a suspect wanted for robbing a convenience store just minutes before Michael Brown was shot and killed by a Ferguson Police officer.

    Authorities believe it is Brown in the video. According to the police report, Brown allegedly stole a pack of cigars and strong-armed a clerk who was trying to stop him before leaving the convenience store.

    Brown was later shot and killed after a short struggle with officer Darren Wilson.

    See the police report
    Dont know how to embed the video. Guess he wasm't such an innocent.

    Thats all.

    are you for fucking real? "guess he wasn't such an innocent"??
    you refuse to discuss the case but you come in and post FOX (really?) articles that conveniently forget to point out important information like the fact that, per the ferguson police chief himself, the police officer who stopped brown had no idea about the convenience store robbery, and that furthermore, that robbery was committed without a weapon. i mean, you seem to think that if a black kid isn't a total angel, he deserves to be shot down by a cop in plain daylight and i guess due process and the justice system are just for innocent white people. or at least that's what you seem to be implying by posting a fox article and saying that he wasn't an "innocent" after all (as if that changes anything about the facts here). and if that is what you think, you should at least have the balls to stand up for your beliefs.




    15 August 2014

    Ferguson police: Michael Brown was robbery suspect


    Michael Brown, the black teenager shot by police on Saturday in Ferguson, Missouri, was a suspect in a robbery just moments earlier, police have said.
    But they said the robbery in a convenience store had nothing to do with the initial contact between Mr Brown and the officer who shot him.
    Mr Brown's family have reacted angrily at what they see as a police attempt to "justify the execution-style murder".
    The killing sparked days of angry clashes between police and protestors.
    Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer who shot Michael Brown did not know that he had allegedly stolen goods from a nearby store.
    "The initial contact between the officer and Michael Brown was not related to the robbery," he said.

    Instead, he added, the reason for the stop was that Brown "was walking down the middle of the street stopping traffic".
    Mr Jackson said he had released the footage of the crime only because he had been forced to do so because of numerous freedom of information requests from journalists.
    He described the robbery at the convenience store as being committed without the use of a weapon.
    CCTV pictures in a police report show a well-built black man intimidating a clerk in the store.
    The police report identifies the man as Mr Brown, described as being 6ft 4in (193cm) and 292 pounds (132kg).
    It says he "grabbed a box of Swisher Sweet cigars" and handed them to a second suspect identified as Mr Brown's friend, Dorian Johnson.
    Since the shooting on Saturday, Mr Johnson has given a number of interviews in which he has said Mr Brown held up his hands in an act of surrender before being shot by the officer.
    Also on Friday Mr Jackson revealed the name of the officer who shot and killed Mr Brown - Darren Wilson - and said he was injured in a struggle with Mr Brown.
    Mr Wilson, is a six-year veteran of the police force with no disciplinary record, Mr Jackson said.
    Mr Brown's family accused the police of being devious in their release of information.
    "There is nothing based on the facts that have been placed before us that can justify the execution-style murder of their child by this police officer as he held his hands up, which is the universal sign of surrender," said a statement.
    Members of the majority black Ferguson community have also reacted angrily.
    Ferguson resident Milton Jackson, 37, said: "I don't believe what the officer did was called for. Even if there was a robbery, it was unnecessary force to shoot an unarmed black man."
    On Thursday night, tension seemed to ease, at least momentarily, as state police took charge of security after days of violent clashes between protesters and police.
    There was no sign of the heavily armed police presence of previous nights.
    US Attorney General Eric Holder said the use of military equipment and vehicles in Ferguson had sent a "conflicting message", while President Barack Obama said there was no excuse for police using "excessive force".
    Mr Obama has promised a full investigation by the US Department of Justice into the teenager's death, and the FBI has launched its own inquiry.

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    excuse the fuck outta me our local news is fox channel 2. GOODBYE. Yeah this kid was a real choir boy. The fucking hate in my town and now here is making me sad. Won't be back to this site that I loved. bye all I had fun here but not gonna be attacked. I'll miss most of you. Thanks for all the laughs.
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    seriously. wtf. so he's either innocent (never do anything bad ever) or a not-innocent (get shot down whenever with no right to live).

    I stole some bracelets from Hot Topic when I was 13, does that mean I can get shot in a street while unarmed? Am I not an innocent? Is my right to live taken away from a silly mistake made while young?

    @rockchick

    I see no hate here, just a questioning of your post. But I guess it's better to blame others then leave, rather than explain your view of why this boy was not a precious "innocent".
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockchick View Post
    um our local news is fox channel 2. GOODBYE. The fucking hate in my town and now here is making me sad. Won't be back to this site that I loved. bye all
    too bad you'd rather ftb and run away than stick around and see that we're just trying to open your eyes here.
    there's no hate here, just anger that yet again, the police in this country have proven themselves racist beyond belief and that once again, an unarmed black kid has been gunned down.
    but i guess you'd rather keep your blinders on and pretend that everything was all fine and dandy in your town and that "the hate" is new and caused solely by those damn rioters who had to go and get all pissed off about an unarmed black kid getting killed by the police in broad daylight.. i mean, it's not like there might be underlying racial tensions... cause that's just a figment of the liberal imagination.

    and it doesn't worry you that fox is your local news? i mean, how unbiased do you think they are here? and even if they are your local news, there's a whole internet out there with less biased information.

    Quote Originally Posted by rockchick View Post
    excuse the fuck outta me our local news is fox channel 2. GOODBYE. Yeah this kid was a real choir boy. The fucking hate in my town and now here is making me sad. Won't be back to this site that I loved. bye all I had fun here but not gonna be attacked. I'll miss most of you. Thanks for all the laughs.
    did you even read the part about how the cop had no fucking clue about the convenience store robbery? were you absent from school on the day they taught kids about how everyone is innocent until proven guilty, and everyone deserves a fair trial, even non-choir boys? or don't they teach that in MO?
    the sad part is you don't see the link between your attitude towards this kid and this incident, as illustrated by your enlightened comments about him in your last 2 posts, and the riots and outrage and protests this case has sparked not just in your hometown but all over the country. it's quite simply mind boggling.
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    i mean, you seem to think that if a black kid isn't a total angel, he deserves to be shot down by a cop in plain daylight and i guess due process and the justice system are just for innocent white people. or at least that's what you seem to be implying by posting a fox article and saying that he wasn't an "innocent" after all (as if that changes anything about the facts here). and if that is what you think, you should at least have the balls to stand up for your beliefs.


    See this what I mean. I was posting for information purposes. Don't even START calling me A fucking racist. I'm no fucking racist. A bad kid is a bad kid. Apparently you've all made up your minds about me so fuck you.

    ban me I won't be back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockchick View Post
    i mean, you seem to think that if a black kid isn't a total angel, he deserves to be shot down by a cop in plain daylight and i guess due process and the justice system are just for innocent white people. or at least that's what you seem to be implying by posting a fox article and saying that he wasn't an "innocent" after all (as if that changes anything about the facts here). and if that is what you think, you should at least have the balls to stand up for your beliefs.


    See this what I mean. I was posting for information purposes. Don't even START calling me A fucking racist. I'm no fucking racist. A bad kid is a bad kid. Apparently you've all made up your minds about me so fuck you.

    ban me I won't be back.
    so a "bad kid" deserves to be shot by the cops even though he's unarmed and even though the cop who shot him had no idea he was a suspect in a robbery? so "bad kids" don't deserve trials or due process, we should just skip all those formalities and let cops shoot them point blank in broad daylight?

    answer the question or we will assume the worst about you, but only because you haven't given us much choice.
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    If stealing a $5 item is the yardstick for measuring a bad kid, then the majority of kids are bad.
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    I'm disgusted right now.

    I guess poor michael didn't deserve to have a fair trial and due process. nobody should be gunned down for stealing a few damn cigars ffs.

    take off the blinders and get a clue.
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    I once stole $100 from my dad's money drawer when I was 12. I must be downright evil. What punishment do I deserve for that?

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