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    This Is Why We're Mad About the Shooting of Mike Brown


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    18-year-old Michael Brown was gunned down on Saturday by a Ferguson police officer in St. Louis. Witnesses say Brown had his hands in the air as he was shot from 35 feet away.
    As a black person in America, it's getting exhausting to still have to explain, in the year 2014, your right to exist in this country. To explain that you are a human being whose value sits no lower than anyone else's. To explain our basic humanity. And perhaps, worst of all, to explain exactly why we are outraged.
    We shouldn't have to explain why it's not acceptable for unarmed teenagers to be gunned down by the police.
    We shouldn't have to explain why even though Mike Brown's life didn't matter to you or a Ferguson police officer, it mattered to someone.
    We shouldn't have to explain that the clothes we wear don't protect us against, or make us more susceptible to, violence. Four little girls were bombed in their church dresses and Martin Luther King Jr. was gunned down in a suit and tie.
    We shouldn't have to explain that the right to due process—that which was not afforded to Mike Brown—is in the Constitution of the United States of America. In fact, it's in there twice.
    We shouldn't have to explain why the correct response to these tragedies is not, "but what about black on black crime?" 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites and no one ever attempts to undermine any of the senseless violence they suffer.
    We shouldn't have to explain that the punishment for even the most heinous crimes in our country is not a public execution without a trial.
    We shouldn't have to explain why we don't trust cops when a number of eyewitnesses tell a consistent and vastly different story than that of the police officer who murdered Mike Brown.
    We shouldn't have to explain why we fight back when we are attacked.
    We shouldn't have to explain why we deserve the same protections and rights afforded to every other citizen of America.
    But maybe you can help with some other questions I have, because I am at a loss.
    Can you explain why Mike Brown was gunned down in the street while James Eagan Holmes, who killed twelve people and injured 70 others after opening fire in a movie theater, was escorted into a squad car? Can you explain why Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is still alive but Mike Brown isn't? What about Jared Lee Loughner?
    Can you explain why Mike Brown's body was left uncovered in the middle of the street for hours for any reason other than to send a message to his community?
    Can you explain why a black man is killed by the police every 28 hours in this country?
    Can you explain why media outlets reporting on his death used the photo of Mike Brown on the left instead of the right?



    Can you explain why the Ferguson Police Department disproportionally searches black people while the contraband hit rate for white people is higher?
    Can you explain the complete disregard for black life that resulted in the deaths of John Crawford, Eric Garner, Trayvon Martin, Tarika Wilson, Malcolm Ferguson, Renisha McBride,Amadou Diallo, Yvette Smith, Oscar Grant, Sean Bell, Kathryn Johnston and Rekia Boyd?
    Can you explain why the police rolled up to a candlelight vigil in SWAT gear?
    Better yet, can you explain any of that to Mike Brown's mother?

    Explain all that and then explain to me why the hell we shouldn't be anything but angry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    i understand what you're saying. the problem is that when these things happen, it's not simply a protest. the kid's shooting was an event that peeled back the crappy bandaid that's doing a shitty job of holding together america's race relations but the problem is, you peel that bandaid back, and all the anger and frustration comes pouring out. i'm not saying that to excuse/justify looting and rioting, just saying that they are symptoms of a much deeper problem that goes way beyond one story and one unarmed black kid getting shot by the police.

    it's not even really about whether or not the policemen were right and who attacked who first. and no, don't buy a gun, rockchick.

    eta: and it's not just america. remember the riots and looting in recent years in paris and london.
    This is true. i do agree with you. I think people act out of frustration.

    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    Also, the people looting are not necessarily The same as the protesters but other people taking advantage of a chaotic situation. It gives legitimate protesters a bad name and allows the publc at large to dismiss their concerns.
    I think that's usually what happens.

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    major streets closed again. cops in riot gear, tear gas....not feeling safe.

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    That sucks, rockchick. I hope things settle down soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    Also, the people looting are not necessarily The same as the protesters but other people taking advantage of a chaotic situation. It gives legitimate protesters a bad name and allows the publc at large to dismiss their concerns.
    That's pretty much what I was going to say - it's always the tv/electrical goods shops, the phone shops, the liquor stores and the trendy clothes shops that get looted first. Looting has nothing to do with protesting and everything to do with opportunistic crime.

    I was talking on Skype to some online friends when the riots in Tottenham, North London were going on and one of them wasn't that far away from it and was giving us a running commentary on what he could see from his upper floor flat's windows. We spoke of it again soon after when all the political commentators were huffing and puffing about "disenfranchised youth" and "societal inclusion" and he said it was all a load of bollocks because he, and others he knew, had had lots of these disenfranchised youths going door to door trying to sell off looted televisions ("do you big screen or somefin' smaller, got 'em all mate") and high end trainers ("you name your size bro and we'll have it here for ya, all good prices, alright?").
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    the looters that have been arrested are from outside my city, just opportunistic assholes. Don't know whats planned for today. I have to go to work today so hopefully things will remain calm.

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    I read that the cops used tear gas and rubber bullets on the protestors last night.
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    i also read an eyewitness account claiming that before the kid was shot, he yelled to the police officer that he was unarmed. and the cop still shot him.
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    and he was 35 feet away from the cop when he was shot. how can you assault a cop from 35 feet away when you're unarmed? this whole thing reeks.
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    some are saying the kid tried to grab the gun during a scuffle in the cop car. No one knows what really happened. Its a fucking nightmare. Thats all I know.

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    It's too bad there isn't a video of it. If it's true and the kids assaulted the police office first and he did try to grab the gun, then the cop was protecting himself. And if someone is threatening me.. I don't care if they TELL me they don't have a gun. I'm not going to take any chances. It didn't seem like the kid was cooperating. I don't know if there have been problems with cops in the past there..but it seems to me there's still a lot of information missing in this story. If the cop was truly wrong, then he should be punished.

    There are certainly bad cops. And you hear way more about them then the one's doing right. But there are also many good cops that have to resort to tough decisions when protecting themselves and others around them.



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    All was quiet last night. First good restful sleep I've had since Sunday!
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    Main street media is ignoring this....someone set up a live stream of the protest in Ferguson:

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    Threat from Anonymous to the Ferguson police department:


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    they also arrested a couple of journalists covering the case. they were arrested while at a mcdonalds as customers. for "trespassing". hmmmm
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    ^^ hmm indeed.

    just last week the guy who filmed Eric Garner being choked to death by the NYPD was arrested, purely by coincidence I'm sure... Then a few days later they arrested his wife for an unrelated incident. Next they're going to arrest his dog. Cops don't like people reporting on them. It's one of the many things they have in common with criminals.


    Quote Originally Posted by rockchick View Post
    some are saying the kid tried to grab the gun during a scuffle in the cop car. No one knows what really happened. Its a fucking nightmare. Thats all I know.

    Only the cops are saying that. None of the non police witnesses agree, according to what I've read.
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