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    Sandy Hook students to return to class

    By Olivia Smith and David Ariosto, CNN
    updated 7:08 PM EST, Wed January 2, 2013

    Mourners wipe tears away as they file out of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints after the funeral of Emilie Parker in Ogden, Utah, on Saturday, December 22.
    STORY HIGHLIGHTS

    • Sandy Hook students return to class for the first time since the December 14 shooting
    • The students will travel to Chalk Hill Middle School in the nearby town of Monroe, Connecticut
    • The shooter killed his mother and then 26 children and adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School



    (CNN) -- For the first time since the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School, Christine Wilford plans do something remarkable on Thursday that once was routine: drop her child off at school.
    The last time her 7-year-old son, Richie, was in class was on December 14, when a gunman smashed his way into his school in Newtown, Connecticut, and killed 26 children and adults.
    As shots rang out, Richie's teacher locked the door and huddled her students into the corner as the shooter roamed the hallways, wielding an AR-15 assault rifle and firing.
    When it appeared safe, the children were then hurried away to a nearby fire station, where teary parents either reunited with their sons and daughters or learned that they had been killed.
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    Nearly a month later, Wilford said her son still has trouble sleeping and is often scared by loud noises.
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    But on Thursday, he will join hundreds of other Newtown students returning to class for the first time since the tragedy.
    "We think it's good he's going back," Wilford said. "If I leave my child anywhere, I'm leaving a piece of my heart, so it's difficult to leave him."
    But Richie apparently isn't afraid and says he's looking forward to seeing his friends, she said.
    They won't be attending Sandy Hook Elementary, which police say remains part of an ongoing investigation into Adam Lanza, the gunman who also killed his mother before opening fire at the school.
    Instead, Richie and his classmates are expected to travel to Chalk Hill Middle School in the nearby town of Monroe, where a green-and-white banner greeting the children hangs on a fence.
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    Newtown Public Schools Superintendent Janet Robinson said that part of the building had been transformed to resemble an elementary school.
    "(We want) to have as much (of) a normal routine as possible," she said. "Tomorrow is a regular schedule, and we will do the kinds of things that we know are good for kids."
    The school has also been outfitted with rugs and furniture similar to those at Sandy Hook to help ease the transition for students. Even the school's pet turtle was relocated, Robinson said.
    Security measures have also been increased, with a new system incorporating more cameras and locks, according to Jim Agostine, superintendent of Monroe Public Schools.
    "I think right now it has to be the safest school in America," added Monroe Police Lieutenant Keith White.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    But if you run across a journal like Eric Harris or Dylan Klebold's, please do NOT respect their privacy, and call a SWAT team or something.
    Depends what page you'd catch of Dylan's, a chunk of his is regular teenage angst about being in love with a girl who doesn't know he exists. Eric's was straight up red flag from beginning to end.
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    I was watching Anderson Cooper last night and the guests were talking about the Sandy Hook conspiracy theories that are out there. That the kids are all alive and this was a government conspiracy about a ton of things from Illuminati to the US trying to wage war on guns. It's crazy. One of the guests mentioned that if you google "Emilie Parker" (one of the little girls that was murdered), the first website is one of these nutters pages. It is. Scary shit reading how out there people are. The comments are just as bad. It means that even more people think that way.

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    I've looked at one of the youtube videos that these conspiracy nuts made. I couldn't watch more than a minute. Where did I find the link to the video? On the Emilie Parker memorial FB page! Some asshole went on there and posted the link. I hope who posted the link was looked into. I have no faith in humanity.

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    My housemate just came to me to talk about the conspiracy theories. I can't believe that people have jumped on this so much?!
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    Paranoia plus low IQ's. They won't believe Hiter existed either. Evidence and logic bedamned.
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    New York will pass new gun control laws later today, becoming the first state to do so since the Newtown shootings.

    New York Has Gun Deal, With Focus on Mental Ills

    Nathaniel Brooks for The New York Times
    Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and Lt. Gov. Robert J. Duffy at a news conference Monday at the State Capitol, announcing the legislative package imposing new restrictions on gun ownership.



    ALBANY — Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo and lawmakers agreed on Monday to a broad package of changes to gun laws that would expand the state’s ban on assault weapons and would include new measures to keep guns away from the mentally ill.


    The state Senate, controlled by a coalition of Republicans and a handful of Democrats, approved the legislative package just after 11 p.m. by a lopsided vote of 43 to 18. The Assembly, where Democrats who have been strongly supportive of gun control have an overwhelming majority, planned to vote on the measure Tuesday.


    Approval of the legislation would make New York the first state to act in response to the mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., last month.


    Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, had pressed lawmakers to move quickly in response to Newtown, saying, “the people of this state are crying out for help.” And the Legislature proceeded with unusual haste: Monday was the first full day of this year’s legislative session.


    “We don’t need another tragedy to point out the problems in the system,” Mr. Cuomo said at a news conference.


    “Enough people have lost their lives,” he added. “Let’s act.”


    The expanded ban on assault weapons would broaden the definition of such weapons, banning semiautomatic pistols and rifles with detachable magazines and one military-style feature, as well as semiautomatic shotguns with one military-style feature. New Yorkers who already own such guns could keep them but would be required to register them with the state.


    “The message out there is so clear after Newtown,” said the Assembly speaker, Sheldon Silver, a Democrat from Manhattan. “To basically eradicate assault weapons from our streets in New York as quickly as possible is something the people of this state want.”


    In an acknowledgment that many people have suggested that part of the solution to gun violence is a better government response to mental illness, the legislation includes not only new restrictions on gun ownership, but also efforts to limit access to guns by the mentally ill.


    The most significant new proposal would require mental health professionals to report to local mental health officials when they believe that patients are likely to harm themselves or others. Law enforcement would then be authorized to confiscate any firearm owned by a dangerous patient; therapists would not be sanctioned for a failure to report such patients if they acted “in good faith.”


    “People who have mental health issues should not have guns,” Mr. Cuomo told reporters. “They could hurt themselves, they could hurt other people.”


    But such a requirement “represents a major change in the presumption of confidentiality that has been inherent in mental health treatment,” said Dr. Paul S. Appelbaum, the director of the Division of Law, Ethics, and Psychiatry at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, who said the Legislature should hold hearings on possible consequences of the proposal.


    “The prospect of being reported to the local authorities, even if they do not have weapons, may be enough to discourage patients with suicidal or homicidal thoughts from seeking treatment or from being honest about their impulses,” he said.


    The legislation would extend and expand Kendra’s Law, which empowers judges to order mentally ill patients to receive outpatient treatment.


    And it would require gun owners to keep weapons inaccessible in homes where a resident has been involuntarily committed, convicted of a crime or is the subject of an order of protection.


    The legislative package, which Mr. Cuomo said he believed would be “the most comprehensive package in the nation,” would ban any gun magazine that can hold over 7 rounds of ammunition — the current limit is 10 rounds. It would also require background checks of ammunition buyers and automated alerts to law enforcement of high-volume purchases.


    The legislation would increase penalties for multiple crimes committed with guns, would require background checks for most private gun sales, and create a statewide gun-registration database.


    Senator Jeffrey D. Klein of the Bronx, the leader of an independent faction of Democrats who have allied with the Republicans to control the Senate, said the measure met the goals of many lawmakers.


    “Republicans, it’s very clear, wanted harsher criminal penalties for illegal guns, which is something I agree with,” Mr. Klein added, “but on the other hand we’re also going to ban assault weapons and limit the number of rounds in a magazine. So I think putting those two things together makes it a better bill.”
    Among the other elements of the proposed legislation were a so-called Webster provision, named for the shooting deaths of two firefighters in Webster, near Rochester, just before Christmas. The provision would mandate a life sentence without parole for anyone who murders a first responder.


    And, in response to a controversy that erupted after The Journal News, a daily newspaper, published the names and addresses of handgun permit holders in Westchester and Rockland Counties, the legislation would prohibit disclosure of the names in the new statewide gun-registration database, and would allow individuals to exempt their own names and addresses from being disclosed by counties that have such databases.


    The guns package was negotiated privately by the governor and legislative leaders over the last several weeks, but was only completed late Monday; rank-and-file Senators had only a few minutes to read the legislation before voting on it. Mr. Cuomo, saying, “If there is an issue that fits the definition of necessity, I believe it’s gun violence,” waived the normal three-day waiting period between introduction of new legislation and a vote.


    The minority leader in the Assembly, Brian M. Kolb, a Republican from Canandaigua, objected to the move to expedite the process, saying, “I don’t think we should be rushing things just for the sake of headlines.”
    By the time the Senate began to discuss the bill late Monday night, the galleries that overlook the chamber were mostly empty of spectators. A parade of Democrats, who have long pressed for new gun laws, rose to praise the bill as they explained their votes.


    Senator Malcolm A. Smith, an independent Democrat from Queens, said provisions of the measure could be dedicated to the family members of New Yorkers who had been victims of gun violence.


    “I think today we are setting the mark for the rest of the country,” he said.


    Most of the senators who voted against the bill did not speak. One who did, Senator Kathleen A. Marchione, a Republican from Saratoga County, praised some parts of the measure, like the expansion of Kendra’s Law. But she said the new restrictions on guns would not get at the problem of gun violence.


    “I truly believe that the Second Amendment constitutional freedoms of every New Yorker tonight has been weakened,” she said, adding, “Law-abiding citizens who own guns are not our problem. Law-abiding citizens understand and know how to take care of their guns, not to be a danger to others.”

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    TUESDAY, JAN 15, 2013 07:45 AM ESTThis man helped save six children, is now getting harassed for it

    Gene Rosen sheltered six kids during the Sandy Hook massacre. Now he's become a target of conspiracy theorists

    BY ALEX SEITZ-WALD
    (Credit: AP/Mary Altaffer)

    “I don’t know what to do,” sighed Gene Rosen. “I’m getting hang up calls, I’m getting some calls, I’m getting emails with, not direct threats, but accusations that I’m lying, that I’m a crisis actor, ‘how much am I being paid’?” Someone posted a photo of his house online. There have been phony Google+ and YouTube accounts created in his name, messages on white supremacist message boards ridiculing the “emotional Jewish guy,” and dozens of blog posts and videos “exposing” him as a fraud. One email purporting to be a business inquiry taunted: “How are all those little students doing? You know, the ones that showed up at your house after the ‘shooting’. What is the going rate for getting involved in a gov’t sponsored hoax anyway?”

    “The quantity of the material is overwhelming,” he said. So much so that a friend shields him from most of it by doing daily sweeps of the web so Rosen doesn’t have to. His wife is worried for their safety. He’s logged every email and every call, and consulted with a retired state police officer, who took the complaint seriously but said police probably can’t do anything at the moment, and he plans to do the same with the FBI.

    What did Rosen do to deserve this? One month ago, he found six little children and a bus driver at the end of the driveway of his home in Newtown, Connecticut. “We can’t go back to school,” one little boy told Rosen. “Our teacher is dead.” He brought them inside and gave them food and juice and toys. He called their parents. He sat with them and listened to their shocked accounts of what had happened just down the street inside Sandy Hook Elementary, close enough that Rosen heard the gunshots.

    In the hours and days that followed, Rosen did a lot of media interviews. “I wanted to speak about the bravery of the children, and it kind of helped me work through this,” he told Salon in an interview. “I guess I kind of opened myself up to this.”

    The “this” in question is becoming a prime target of the burgeoning Sandy Hook Truther movement, which — like its precursor that denied the veracity of the 9/11 terror attacks — alleges that the entire shooting was a hoax of some kind. There were conspiracy theories surrounding the shooting from day one, but the movement has exploded into public view the past two weeks, and a Google Tends search suggests it’s just now picking up steam. It’s also beginning to earn the backing of presumably credible sources like a professor and a reporter.

    Rosen, a 69-year old retired psychologist who now runs a pet sitting business and volunteers to read books to kids in schools, initially called me to ask if I thought he should reach out to the FBI about the harassment. I said it probably couldn’t hurt. When I asked if I could tell his story, he was reluctant at first. “Here’s my fear: If I start talking like this, will one of these Truthers read this and will it embolden them? Will they say, screw that guy, how dare he impugned our credibility or question our intellect, I’m going to go one step farther? Am I being stupid?” he asked.

    After thinking about it, Rosen decided that he had to speak out: “I talk to you about this because I feel that there has to be some moral push back on this.” Rosen said he’s staunch believer in free speech, and realizes there are little legal recourse possible unless he gets direct threats, so he had a different idea.

    “There must be someway to morally shame these people, because there were twenty dead children lying an eighth of a mile from my window all night long,” he said, choking back tears. “And I sat there with my wife, because they couldn’t take the bodies out that night so the medical examiner could come. And I thought of an expression, that this ‘adds insult to injury,’ but that’s a stupid expression, because this is not an injury, this is an abomination.”

    The harassment has turned Rosen’s life upside down, and made him feel things once foreign to him, like searing rage. “I was sitting in a restaurant the other night and these guys who were part of a car club came up to me and shook my hand and said, ‘you know, you’re a hero to me.’ He had seen me on TV. So I said thank you. Then I’m sitting there I hear this other guy, ‘oh yeah, it was a conspiracy.’ He was a big guy,” he said.

    “I tell you what, I had evil thoughts. I wanted to go over the first guy, and he had about 15 big guys with him, and say, ‘I’m going to go talk to this other guy — just watch my back.’ And then I wanted to go over to other guy and get up in his face and say, ‘see those guys over there, just know they’re keeping an eye out for me.’ And they I wanted to say, ‘I want to see what you look like. I want to see what a person who generates this kind of evil shits looks like. I want to look at your face and tell you you’re an asshole,’” he said.

    He didn’t do it, of course. “But it tells me how rageful I am. And I am rageful about it, both for the children and for the mother of the child who came to my house looking for her son and I wanted to look at this guy and I wanted to just fucking decimate him. That’s my rage.”

    But when he starts to feel that way, Rosen can think of the first man. And the countless others out there who see Rosen as a hero, and not a tool of some shadowy conspiracy. Because for every angry call or email, there any many many more praising ones: “I get the most beautifully written cards, wonderful calls.” Let’s hope they continue to be the majority.

    Source: This man helped save six children, is now getting harassed for it - Salon.com

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    *shakes head sadly*

    People really are sick.
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    This is just horrible. So many sick fucks in the world.

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    This is so sick. I don't understand what is wrong with people.
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    Ok I'm not a conspiracy theory nutter. I'm not sure what to think but the video really does raise a lot of questions. I know that a lot of it could be due to the piss weak news coverage of the tragedy but a lot of what was mentioned in the video is just plain weird. I obviously do believe that something happened at Sandy Hook but I'm starting to question a lot of what we have been told about it. Sorry in advance if I offend anyone with my thoughts. R.I.P. to the victims.
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    ^ Come on, the theories are ridiculous. Don't get swayed by those videos.
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    The only weird thing to me is Emilies dad laughing and joking then acting sad when on air. I chalk it up to shock and having a joyful moment but knowing he couldn't go on air giving a statement laughing and jovial.

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