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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    There are rumors that she will receive protection and witness protection plan but that is false.

    Casey Anthony Detectives May Provide Protection When She Leaves Jail - ABC News

    By MICHAEL S. JAMES and CHRISTINA NG
    July 12, 2011
    The police who investigated Casey Anthony for murder -- and still believe she is guilty -- said today that they are assessing the threat to her safety and may provide police protection for Anthony when she leaves jail this weekend.

    Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings acknowledged the anger over the verdict that found Anthony not guilty of killing her 2-year-old daughter Caylee. The fury has been directed at Anthony, her parents, the judge and the jury.

    "Our intelligence section is assessing the threats," said Sgt. John Allen, who helped interrogate Anthony at Universal Studios after she admitted she had lied about working there.

    "A lot of people have strong sentiments about the outcome, but no one has the right to take the law into their own hands.... I would hope people step back and, regardless of their feelings, not commit another crime," Allen said at a news conference with other members of the team that investigated Anthony.

    Demings said that when Anthony, 25, leaves jail Sunday, "We will assist in her departure from those premises."

    If there is an "overriding public safety need," they will escort her to her destination, the sheriff said. He added, however, "We will not be providing any elaborate protection for Casey once she leaves."

    The jury's not guilty verdict has not changed the opinion of the cops who grilled Anthony and investigated Caylee's death.

    When asked whether he still believed that Anthony was guilty, Allen replied, "I certainly don't have any doubt."

    Demings said that an investigation involving the case remains open and involves a witness tampering allegation. He would not elaborate.

    The Orange County prosecutor's office announced that it would not charge Casey Anthony's mother Cindy Anthony with perjury after she claimed responsibility for the many searches for chloroform on the family computer. Prosecutors proved that Cindy Anthony was at work at the time the searches were made. They also claimed that Casey Anthony killed Caylee with a combination of chloroform and duct tape.

    Casey Anthony Jurors Were Suspicious of Her Father

    The foreman of the Casey Anthony jury said that one reason that they acquitted Anthony was because they were suspicious that her father, George Anthony, could have been covering up a crime or even potentially could be a killer himself.

    "There was a suspicion of him," the juror said. "That was a part of our conversation that we had."

    At today's press conference, the detectives said that George Anthony was never a suspect in the case.

    The jury foreman, juror No. 11, voiced his feelings about George Anthony during an interview on Fox News' "On the Record with Greta van Susteren," in which he was photographed from behind and would not reveal his name.

    As with other jurors who have been interviewed, the foreman said the panel was unconvinced by the evidence that Casey Anthony, 25, murdered her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee -- and was not even certain that a murder was committed.

    "We don't know the cause of death," the juror said. "Everything was speculation."
    Yeah that baby wrapped her own fkkn head up with tape. Of course she was murdered. I guess I should stay away from these threads because I just get so pissed off.

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    Casey Anthony's Lawyer
    Bring on the Investigation!


    Casey Anthony's attorney, Jose Baez, isn't concerned ONE BIT that the Florida State Bar has decided to investigate him over ethics concerns -- telling TMZ, he's used to being put through the wringer.

    Jose tells us, he's "looking forward to the bar completing its investigation, so that it can be dismissed just like the 20 previous complaints."

    Jose adds, "It is part of the job whenever you fight an unpopular cause."

    As we previously reported -- Jose is being investigated for allegedly hiding information from the court ... after a clerical error gave Casey an unintentional break in her probation.
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    So 21 complaints is "normal"? Any barristers on here care to comment on that?
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    I practiced for 10+ years and never had a complaint lodged (knock wood). BUT, it is extremely routine for criminal defense attorneys to get ethical complaints up the whazoo.

    Frankly, this is an ethical breach, but it's just as much the judge and his/her staff and prosecutors responsibility to make sure the written order matches the verbal order. This won't amount to anything more than maybe a public reprimand on candor to the court at the most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brookie View Post
    So 21 complaints is "normal"? Any barristers on here care to comment on that?

    Not even.
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    Casey Anthony 'Seems Like a Horrible Person,' Says Juror

    They knew it would be a controversial decision: to acquit Casey Anthony of murder charges in the death of her 2-year-old daughter, Caylee.

    What they didn't expect was the public outrage that would follow.

    The Casey Anthony jurors have been barred from restaurants, shunned by family members, and vilified online. One even quit her job and moved out of Florida, for fear of the backlash.

    One male juror consented to speak with PEOPLE under the condition of complete anonymity.

    "We tried very hard to separate our emotions from the evidence," he says. "Generally, none of us liked Casey Anthony at all. She seems like a horrible person. But the prosecutors did not give us enough evidence to convict. They gave us a lot of stuff that makes us think that she probably did something wrong, but not beyond a reasonable doubt."

    Now that the trial is over, life "has been a nightmare," says the juror.

    "I live in fear that someone will find me. I Google my name every day to see if anyone has figured out who I am. The few people that do know haven't said anything, but one of my friends told me that his wife forbid him to talk to me. My own sister cussed me out. It has ruined my life."

    Inside the Deliberations

    After 90 witnesses and 33 days of testimony in the courtroom, the jurors began to deliberate. "We took a vote on the [four] charges of lying to police," he says. "And it came back 12-0 to convict. That didn't take long at all."

    "We took the first vote on first-degree murder," says the juror. "We were 10 to 2 to acquit. So we talked for about thirty minutes, and the two decided that they were willing to change their votes, so first degree was off the table pretty quickly."

    Next up: aggravated manslaughter.

    "We did our first vote and it came out half to acquit, half to convict," says the juror. "And we talked about it for a while, going through the evidence. I'd say that some people got intense, but there were no personal attacks, no real yelling. And we talked for a while, then it was 11-1 to acquit. And the guy who didn't want to acquit basically looked at us and said, 'O.K., whatever you all want.' He knew he wasn't going to convince us."

    "And then we sat there for a few minutes and were like, 'Holy crap, we are letting her go free,' " he continues. "Everyone was just stunned at what we were about to do. [One of the women jurors] asked me, 'Are you okay with this?' and I said, 'Hell, no. But what else can we do? We promised to follow the law.' "

    Nearly two months later, would the juror change his vote? "I've learned a lot more about the case by reading the documents," he says.

    "But when we were sequestered, we could only go by what the prosecution and defense gave us. If I had to vote now, I'd probably vote for manslaughter. But we didn't get the evidence to support it before. I know people are mad at us, but we did our jobs, and I think we did them to the very best of our abilities.
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    They talked for 30 minutes on the murder charge? And then the two holdouts on manslaughter just said "whatever you all want?" Christ, I served on a jury about meth possession/dealing and we talked ALL DAMN DAY about it for two days. These people are idiots.

    Besides, what's their excuse on the neglect charge? That's the charge they really should have had no problem convicting her of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeyotch View Post
    They talked for 30 minutes on the murder charge? And then the two holdouts on manslaughter just said "whatever you all want?" Christ, I served on a jury about meth possession/dealing and we talked ALL DAMN DAY about it for two days. These people are idiots.

    Besides, what's their excuse on the neglect charge? That's the charge they really should have had no problem convicting her of.

    I've never understood the quickness of this deliberation. I'd want to go piece by piece through the evidence / testimony before I'd ever let that bitch go. If after that I thought we should convict, I'd so hang the jury.

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    I think this jury confused 'reasonable' doubt with 'shadow of a doubt'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeyotch View Post
    They talked for 30 minutes on the murder charge? And then the two holdouts on manslaughter just said "whatever you all want?" Christ, I served on a jury about meth possession/dealing and we talked ALL DAMN DAY about it for two days. These people are idiots.

    Besides, what's their excuse on the neglect charge? That's the charge they really should have had no problem convicting her of.
    Yeah, and this was supposed to be a death-penalty qualified jury? Give me a break.

    I do think in retrospect, the State probably overcharged her, because there really wasn't any compelling evidence of premeditation. But her actions afterwards...c'mon, if that wasn't total consciousness of guilt, I don't know what is. No one lies like that unless they have something to hide, and what 20-something just abandons their car?

    At the very least, they should've convicted on manslaughter. I would've convicted her just based on her behavior in those jailhouse tapes.
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    This is probably mean, but I'm kind of glad they're suffering for their bullshit decision. It was absolute bullshit and they handled it horribly. So I'm happy it "ruined their lives" because fuck them. At least they still have their lives, unlike a poor little baby girl who got murdered and then didn't get the justice she deserved. FUCK YOU STUPID JURORS I HATE YOU SO MUCH.
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    I really can't believe 2 jurors just shrugged and said, OK whatever you all want. That boggles my mind! I'm with you Ben, Fuck Them!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhateverLolaWants View Post
    I think this jury confused 'reasonable' doubt with 'shadow of a doubt'.
    ^this

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    This is probably mean, but I'm kind of glad they're suffering for their bullshit decision. It was absolute bullshit and they handled it horribly. So I'm happy it "ruined their lives" because fuck them. At least they still have their lives, unlike a poor little baby girl who got murdered and then didn't get the justice she deserved. FUCK YOU STUPID JURORS I HATE YOU SO MUCH.
    and this!!! I don't feel one bit sorry for these stupid jurors & their "ruined lives." They deserve what they get for being stupid & lazy in their deliberations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeyotch View Post
    They talked for 30 minutes on the murder charge? And then the two holdouts on manslaughter just said "whatever you all want?" Christ, I served on a jury about meth possession/dealing and we talked ALL DAMN DAY about it for two days. These people are idiots.

    Besides, what's their excuse on the neglect charge? That's the charge they really should have had no problem convicting her of.
    This blew my mind too, well said. These jurors were total asshats.
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