^^Yes, and the Ripper also cut off her breasts and laid them on the night table.I think, but can't recall for sure, that he disemboweled her and threw her innards in the fire.
Don't fear the reefer..
Don't fear the reefer..
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If anyone is interested, Spike TV airs Unsolved Mysteries from Mon-thurs at mindnight (pacific time). It's a new hour long 'version' hosted by Dennis Farina, but the stories are the same ones that were in the original.
In 1988 two former FBI profilers (and pioneers in the field) took part in a tv programme, along with other experts, to make a determination as to who, out of the seven most often named suspects, they thought was Jack the Ripper. This is an extract from a book I have:
"The list included a journalist who had studied medicine and claimed to be a satanist and who lived in Whitechapel, Dr Roslyn Donstan, an emotionally troubled schoolteacher from a family of surgeons who committed suicide soon after the final murder, Montague John Druitt, Royal physician Dr William Gull, Prince Albert Victor, the grandson of Queen Victoria and Aaron Kosminski, a deranged Polish Jew with an avowed hatred of women, who also lived in Whitechapel.
Other panelists on the programme used various reasons for their choices. The profilers were convinced that, from the evidence of the crimes and the way in which they were committed, the killer was a white male in his middle to late twenties, of average intelligence, single and never married, who did not socialise with women, and who lived close to the crime scenes. If he had a job, it would be menial work. He had probably been brought up in a broken home, where he might have been abused, and was very probably a loner, with poor personal hygene and a dishevalled appearence, who preferred a nocturnal lifestyle. Consequently, he would not be able to approach his victims with any confidence, but needed to subdue them and kill them quickly.
All five of the programmes experts chose Kosminski as the most likely identity for Jack the Ripper. In the case of the two profilers, he fitted the template so closely that John Douglas said that if Kosminski was not the killer, then someone very similar to him had been commmitting the crimes."
(From: Criminal Minds: The Science & Psychology of Profiling by David Owen)
I've read loads about the Zodiac Killer and even studied the press coverage for an assignment for my Journalism degree.Originally Posted by L1049
Celeb- thanks for those videos
I love everyone's contributions, although it's giving me way too much material to sift though when I'm bored
Does anybody think that the Zodiac killer will eventually be regarded in the same light as Jack the Ripper?
I'd love to know what those un-decoded cypers from Zodiac say, if anything.
I personall think the murders were carried out by more than one person, the protagonist of the murders was clearly effed up, the messages that have been cyphered are full of spelling mistakes and odd culture references. The ones that haven't been cyphered were intended to be that way probably just made because the killer loved the media coverage he could get, which was clear. But the long spaces in killings and the different nutcases being identified suggests an accomplice too.
Unlike Jack the Ripper, the Zodiac killed people for no reason, he/they shot people at point blank, didnt mutilate people, and psychologically liked the thrill.
We'll never know if it was Arthur Lee Alan, but I think he had something to do with it.
Cold case: Toddlers vanish from park
By Philip Rosenbaum, Nancy Grace Producer
November 30, 2009 9:45 a.m. EST
Shane Walker vanished 20 years ago
An age progression photo of Shane Walker from the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children.
CNN) -- When Rosa Glover brought her 19-month-old son to a New York City playground in 1989, she had no idea tragedy was about to strike a second time in the same place.
In May 1989, 2-year-old Christopher Dansby disappeared from his grandmother's sight on that playground.
Not quite three months later, on a hot August day, Glover's son, Shane Walker, vanished.
As an intense search for both children generated media and public interest across the city, the New York Police Department pointed out other eerie similarities in the cases:
The boys were playing in the same area of the park when they disappeared -- Walker at 5 p.m. on a Thursday, Dansby at 7 p.m. on a Thursday.
Moments before they went missing, the boys were playing with the same children -- a 10-year-old girl and her 5-year-old brother, according to news reports.
In addition, Walker and Dansby lived in the same apartment building in a nearby housing project in Manhattan's Harlem neighborhood.
"That's a hell of a coincidence,'' says Ron Jones, a senior case manager with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, a nationwide clearinghouse and advocacy group.
Jones, assigned to the Walker and Dansby cases from the start, says leads still come into his office fairly often and he relays them to the New York City police.
"People who think they might have seen Shane call us up with a tip,'' he says. "They might be going with the age-enhanced photo.''
According to his mother, Shane was sitting on a bench with her and eating potato chips when the children approached and asked if he could play.
"So I said, 'He's young.' And they said, 'We don't mind,' '' Glover recalls.
While the three children played near the slide, Glover says, a man sat near her and started talking about crime, about how things happen to children. He even mentioned kidnapping. He showed Glover scars he said he had gotten in fights.
"I turned my head to look at all the scars on his body," she says. "When I turned back, I didn't see my son.''
The children Shane was playing with were not around, either. "I started walking around the park, hollering and screaming.''
The next thing Glover remembers is seeing the same two children re-enter the park through a hole in a wire fence.
"I said, 'Where's my son?' " The boy and girl said they left him in the park. Glover took the children to the police station. They were let go after extensive questioning.
Police searched and questioned Glover and her relatives. "They thought maybe a family member took him out of the park,'' Glover said, adding that police also interviewed the man with the scars and released him.
Abduction by a stranger is rare, says Sarah White, a case manager with the New York State Division of Criminal Justice Services, a state-run law enforcement support agency.
By far, most missing people cases are non-custodial parental kidnappings and runaways, White says.
Like Shane Walker, Christopher Dansby has never been found.
The Walker case is still active, according to Detective Cheryl Crispin, a New York Police Department spokesperson. The NYPD declined repeated requests for an interview or more details.
One lead in the days after Shane's disappearance was especially unnerving. Glover says she received a phone call saying her son was buried in an abandoned building. Police investigated and found nothing. To this day, Glover, 57, believes Shane, her only child, is alive. He would be 21.
"I just hope and pray that one day I see him,'' she says, speculating that by now he might have kids of his own.
"I would give him a hug and kiss and we'd go somewhere -- to Florida, anywhere -- just to get away, just to be with him.''
Glover and Shane's father still live in the neighborhood but left the apartment building years ago. Glover avoids walking past the playground.
"Every time I come in the area I start crying and feel depressed,'' she says. Police initially speculated, she says, that Shane might have been kidnapped and sold on the black market.
Some years ago, Glover appeared on "The Montel Williams Show," where a psychic told her Shane was being raised by a wealthy family. Glover brought a photograph of Shane and some of his toys to the show so the psychic could touch them. She said he ''was well taken care of and he was learning the piano,'' Glover recalls.
Though her time with him was short, Glover is comforted by memories of her young son. "He smiled all the time. He only laughed when tickled. ''He liked teddy bears and monkeys."
For a short time, Shane and his parents had a pet chimpanzee named James. The toddler enjoyed sticking bananas in the cage for James to eat.
Glover also recalls a trip they took to Disney World in Florida shortly before Shane went missing. He loved the rides, she says, but was afraid of Mickey Mouse. "He would just holler and scream. I had to carry him all around the park.''
Shane's recollections of her might be dim because he was so young when he disappeared, she says. Still, when she became ill a few years ago, Glover felt driven to hang on.
"I was praying that I survive so I could see him when they find him.''
If you have any tips about this case, please call 1-800-THE-LOST (1-800-843-5678).
Cold case: Toddlers vanish from park - CNN.com
That case is weird and seems like they were kidnapped or something.
we don't have to make love to have an orgasm
I was watching a show on Discovery about Jack the Ripper, the researcher guy's theory was that Jack the Ripper made his way over to the US under a different name and continued murdering women in NY.
Me too^ that was a very interesting show/documentary! He had me believing and all of his theories made sense/good investigation on his part.
^^I enjoyed it too. I thought it made very good sense. James Kelly was the suspects name.
Don't fear the reefer..
The Black Dahlia one is disgusting. I made the mistake of looking at the crime scene pictures.
My goal is to be happy with my life.
I don't think I've seen the documentary, but I've read about that theory.
Here is a website some of you here might find interesting:
Welcome to the Doe Network
It's a collection of missing/un-ID'd bodies, etc. Some of the reconstructions are just plain creepy looking.
One of the cases from doenetwork that is "odd":
The Doe Network: Case File 2241DMWV
I had no idea Vincent Van Gogh was missing:
Welcome to the Doe Network
Holy crap that is awful, those poor people
I smile because I have no idea what's going on
This one was interesting, it was mentioned on cracked.com's website (urban legends you didn't know were true)
Phone calls from a dead Metrolink train crash victim? | Ghost Theory
Los Angeles Metrolink crash of September 2008
This month’s horrible Metrolink train crash brought upon a dark mood to Angelinos. From the country’s economic uncertainties, to the dim light of hope with the elections coming up, us Angelinos felt as if things could not get any worse.
The Daily Breeze has this interesting story on one of the Metrolink’s victim. Chuck Peck was among the 25 dead in the Los Angeles Metrolink crash on the 12th of September 2008. His family, knowing that Chuck was on the train that faithful evening, kept getting calls from his cell phone. No voice was on the other side of the line, no audible voices. All they could hear was static on the other side of the line.
Throughout the night, Chuck’s sons, brother, stepmother, sister and fiancee all got the phone calls after the crash had been reported. Chuck’s son believed his dad was alive and trying to contact them. Chuck’s son CJ kept yelling into the phone: “We love you, Hang in there. They are coming to get you.“‘
It was not until 3:28 a.m that the phone calls stopped. None of the family members got any more phone calls. One hour later, Los Angeles firefighters recovered the remains of Chuck Peck. Coroner’s officials told Peck’s family members that he was killed instantly. His body showed no sign that he lived even for a short time after the crash.
Chuck Peck
Could this have been a phone call from the other side? or is it just technology gone haywire? For years, the “phone calls from the dead” phenomenon has been a thing of urban legends. Paranormal cases that involve ghostly phone calls are just reports, never official recordings or actual proof that they were indeed made from the departed. One thing is for certain, the calls were made to loved ones and the calls were made all night up until the discovery of the body. To all those on board that doomed train, rest in peace.
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