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    Top 10 Modern Mysteries | Bizarre Stuff
    Was the JFK assassination a conspiracy?

    The assassination of President Kennedy lands at No. 1 not because it is one of the great unsolved mysteries of our time, but because of its unmatched cultural impact. For many people — who were alive at the time and who were not born yet — President Kennedy represented something truly larger than life. Consequently it was, and still remains, nearly impossible for them to imagine a giant like JFK being killed by a loser with a scope and a view.
    Among the many testaments to this is the remarkably desperate diligence of conspiracy theorists, who can ignore 2,999 pages of declassified CIA documents and focus on a single line from page 3,000, and build a complicated theory of a mob hit or a Cuban connection.
    The inability to accept the theory of a lone gunman, and the ability to believe in any other scenario despite the lack of even a trace of conclusive evidence, is the greater mystery here because it hints at something mysterious, remarkably fragile and even endearing about the human psyche.
    This is patently ridiculous. There is FAR more verifiable evidence of a conspiracy than for a lone nut. This writer must have forgotten about the findings of the House Select Committe on Assassinations, which determined there was a conspiracy, though it didn't go far enough.

    And of course the writer had to trot out the old trope that believers in conspiracy (which includes about 70% of the population btw) must be mentally or psychologically impaired in some way. Usually they say people are "comforted" by the belief that a vast conspiracy by their own gov't murdered the president. SO much more comforting than believing a random lone nut dunnit.

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    Speaking of the JFK assassination, the Babushka lady is fascinating. I wonder why she never came forward.

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    ^^She supposedly did. Her name is Beverly Oliver but most think she's a fake. I do as well.

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    When fact meets fiction, the cases are harder to solve
    By Michael Connelly, Special to CNN

    STORY HIGHLIGHTS
    -Michael Connelly's latest novel, "Nine Dragons," is set in Hong Kong
    -Two days before Connelly arrived, Canadian tourist Ani Ashekian vanished
    -Ashekian was last seen November 10 in Chungking Mansions area
    -Know something? Please contact MISSING : Ani Ashekian

    Editor's note: Michael Connelly came across the Ani Ashekian case while researching "Nine Dragons," which is #3 on this week's New York Times Bestsellers list.

    Los Angeles, California (CNN) -- The saying goes that life imitates art. But that's the last thing you want when you write crime fiction. You never want to see the things you write about mirrored back to you in real life.

    But a month ago as I prepared to publish and promote my latest detective novel, "Nine Dragons," I learned of a true mystery with eerie similarities and connections to my story and my research. It has been a heart-tugging reminder that while crime novels may be entertaining thrill rides and puzzles, they also skirt the shores of reality for many.

    Before writing novels I worked as a police and crime reporter in Los Angeles. What I saw and wrote about back then became the grist of my fiction. In that case, art imitating life. I took real stories -- a daring bank heist, a conversation with a killer, the unsolved murder of a sports agent found in the trunk of his Rolls Royce -- and turned them into fictionalized investigations in which my fictional hero, Detective Harry Bosch, always won the day.

    That was fine. That worked. What was done was done and I could bend the truth and make the story my own in fiction. I think that is the crime novelist's job, to take inspiration from the real world and to turn it back as something that entertains, puzzles and maybe -- if you're good -- even reflects the world back at the reader. To me, there is an art in that.

    But this time things have gone the other way. In "Nine Dragons," Harry Bosch is working a murder case in Los Angeles when he gets word that his young daughter has disappeared in Hong Kong. It's every father's nightmare. Harry drops everything, including his case, and flies to Hong Kong to find her. He traces her last known location to a spot in the Tsim Sha Tsui neighborhood of Kowloon called Chungking Mansions. After that point, she has vanished.

    Behind the Scenes: Producer shares her memories of Connelly

    Chungking Mansions is a well-known place to many travelers to Asia. It is sort of a modern Casablanca, a crossroads of the world. It is several cut-rate hotels housed in one large and old building, and all of it above a world bazaar where dozens of languages are spoken, and food and other comfort items from almost any country in Asia can be found and purchased. It is the kind of place where Harry Bosch checks his back repeatedly as he walks through.

    It is also the kind of place where I checked my back repeatedly when I walked through while researching the book. This was because I had a camera behind me.

    Last November I went to Hong Kong and visited Chungking Mansions repeatedly as I made a final research journey while writing the book. Filmmaker Terrill Lee Lankford went with me so he could document my research of the places that would be in the novel. This was so I could refer to video while writing about Hong Kong once I returned home. It was also so he could make small films that could be used to document and promote the book when it was published.

    This is where the real life mystery entered my seemingly harmless world of crime fiction. I live in Florida and Lankford lives in California. As he put together short films on my visit to Hong Kong, he used YouTube to privately send me rough edits over the Internet. Lankford noticed that YouTube had connected his films by subject matter to another film about Hong Kong and Chungking Mansions. I took a look and the troubling connection between fact and fiction began.

    The other film was about the disappearance of 31-year-old Canadian tourist Ani Ashekian from Hong Kong, and more specifically Chungking Mansions. What's more is that Ani's last sighting was on November 10, 2008, just two days before I arrived in Hong Kong and visited Chungking Mansions myself.

    In the details the stories are quite different. Ani Ashekian was a veteran traveler who enjoyed solo journeys from Toronto, Canada. She came to Hong Kong after visiting mainland China and stayed in a hotel at the Chungking Mansions. In Nine Dragons, Bosch's daughter is only 13 and a whole different set of circumstances take her to the same building.

    But the crossroads of fiction and reality still leaves a pit in my stomach. Nobody really gets hurt or vanishes for good in fiction. But it's been almost a year now and nobody has heard from Ani. Her passport and credit cards have not been used. The very last sighting of her is on November 10 on an ATM camera in Causeway Bay across the harbor from Kowloon. The very last communication is a text she sent to her niece in Toronto on the same day. She offered Happy Birthday wishes.

    Thinking that maybe she was still at Chungking Mansions on November 12 when I got there, I have repeatedly looked at the video taken over two days by Lankford. There are hundreds of faces moving in and out of the camera's frame, but none appear to be Ani. Whatever happened may have already happened by then.

    The police in Hong Kong have been investigating the disappearance. So too have private investigators, a veteran reporter for the South China Morning Post, as well as Ani's family. But nobody has moved the mystery past that ATM photo. Her journey was supposed to end on December 15 with her return to Toronto from India. She never made it to India or back home.

    Ani has vanished without anything to go on. And that's where this gets to me. In crime fiction, there is always something to go on. When Harry Bosch's daughter disappears, he finds a clue at Chungking Mansions and the case moves on. He is a relentless father who will stop at nothing to find her. But in real life it doesn't always happen that way. You can't be relentless with nothing to go on. Sometimes there is no direction and no answers and families and other loved ones are left with an unabated dread that hollows out their lives. Still, with stories like the recent rescue of the long ago abducted Jaycee Dugard in the news, nobody gives up hope. Sometimes hope is all that is left.

    I remember this from my days as a reporter -- that hollow dread and desperate hope I could read in the eyes of some of the people I interviewed -- and I thought I had left it all behind for the comfortable confines of fiction. Sometimes it doesn't work out that way. Now when I think back on my research trip to Hong Kong, I think of the young woman from Toronto who visited the same place and never returned home.


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    When fact meets fiction, the cases are harder to solve - CNN.com
    © 2008 Cable News Network
    MISSING : Ani Ashekian

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    This was always one of my favorites!

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    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8[/youtube]

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    Awesome thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by celeb_2006 View Post
    10 More Mysteries That Remain Unsolved - Listverse
    There can be no denying it – the unsolved mysteries lists are amongst the most popular on the site. Fortunately for us there are still millions of them to write about. The only problem now is finding new titles for the lists! For those that may be interested in the previous lists of mysteries, here they are:

    Top 10 Unsolved Mysteries
    Another 10 Unsolved Mysteries
    Yet Another 10 Unsolved Mysteries
    10 More Unsolved Mysteries
    10 More Unsolved Mysteries of the World
    10 More Mysteries of the Unexplained, and
    Another 10 Mysteries That Defy Explanation.

    This list now brings our total number of mystery lists to 8, meaning that we have covered 80 amazing mysteries. Enjoy the list and – as always, be sure to tell us your own favorites in the comments (but remember: check the older lists if you think we have missed something – chances are we haven’t.)
    Just wanted to agree that this is an excellent site! I have been reading this blog for a few years on a mostly daily basis and their lists are superb!! Not all are about mysteries, but they are almost always interesting. I have spent HOURS doing further research many times after reading one of their lists. The owner of the site created another site recently that goes a little more into depth about some of the more interesting things (mostly mysteries). He doesn't update it daily like ListVerse, but it's still a good read: Cogitz

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    Celeb- thanks for those videos

    I love everyone's contributions, although it's giving me way too much material to sift though when I'm bored

    Does anybody think that the Zodiac killer will eventually be regarded in the same light as Jack the Ripper?

    I'd love to know what those un-decoded cypers from Zodiac say, if anything.

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    L1049 I think you're probably quite right about the Zodiac killer ending up like Jack the Ripper, unless we get some sort of deathbed confession from the killer.
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    What does everyone think of Patricia Cornwell's solution to the Jack the Ripper mystery?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasha View Post
    What does everyone think of Patricia Cornwell's solution to the Jack the Ripper mystery?
    I haven't heard about that, can you explain about the solution?
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    Quote Originally Posted by caramel View Post
    I haven't heard about that, can you explain about the solution?
    She wrote a book claiming to have solved the mystery. She names Walter Sickert, a famous British painter, as the culprit. Some of his paintings are eerily similar to Ripper murder scenes, particularly the Mary Kelly crime scene.

    Amazon.com: Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper -- Case Closed (9780399149320): Patricia Cornwell: Books

    Walter Sickert used stationary provided by his father, a stationer. Cornwell found at least one acknowledged Ripper letter with the same water mark on the paper. I think she also was able to make a partial mtDNA match between some Ripper postage and Sickert's.

    NSFW Sickert painting:
    http://www.michaelarnoldart.com/The%...n%20Murder.jpg

    Disturbing image of Mary Kelly crime scene:

    http://home.cogeco.ca/~mrcarle/kelly.JPG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sasha View Post
    She wrote a book claiming to have solved the mystery. She names Walter Sickert, a famous British painter, as the culprit. Some of his paintings are eerily similar to Ripper murder scenes, particularly the Mary Kelly crime scene.

    Amazon.com: Portrait of a Killer: Jack the Ripper -- Case Closed (9780399149320): Patricia Cornwell: Books

    Walter Sickert used stationary provided by his father, a stationer. Cornwell found at least one acknowledged Ripper letter with the same water mark on the paper. I think she also was able to make a partial mtDNA match between some Ripper postage and Sickert's.

    NSFW Sickert painting:
    http://www.michaelarnoldart.com/The%...n%20Murder.jpg

    Disturbing image of Mary Kelly crime scene:

    http://home.cogeco.ca/~mrcarle/kelly.JPG
    Wow, that is interesting. I have to read that book. That painting is very much like the crime scene and can you see the face of the Mary Kelly in the picture, was it really like all cut like that? Crazy.
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