Arrest Made In JonBenet Ramsey Case

[KD]

Tuned in, thanx!!

On A&E right now there is a program on called JonBenet: Anatomy of Investigtion.

Very bungled investigation, even admitted from the Police Chief in an press conference. Also, the Ramsey's weren't even asced for their clothes they wore the night of the murder until one year later. Anyway, pretty interesting so far. I had never seen this program.

[celeb_2006]

Before takeoff, Karr took a glass of champagne from a flight attendant and clinked glasses with Spray, who sipped orange juice.
Dinner on board, served on a starched white tablecloth with silverware, was one many passengers would envy. Karr started with a pate, then had a green salad with walnut dressing. The main course was fried king prawn with steamed rice and broccoli, followed by a slice of Valrhona chocolate cake for dessert. Karr drank a beer, crushing the can with his hands when it was empty, then moved on to a glass of French chardonnay with his main course.
He later dined on roast duck with soy sauce and yellow noodles, and for his third meal quickly ate a piece of pizza served with chocolates and a bottle of Evian.
"It seems odd to me. If there is an arrest warrant issued, he ought to be under arrest," said former Adams County District Attorney Bob Grant, who was involved in the Ramsey investigation. "It is very strange. Whoever is in control of him ought to make sure he isn't doing things like drinking champagne."
Other experts called the royal treatment a brilliant strategy intended to get the suspect relaxed enough to talk more.
"There is always a reason when the unusual happens," said Denver attorney Larry Pozner, past president of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers.
Though Karr appeared relaxed for most of the flight, chatting with Spray, his expression grew more serious when the plane was just over an hour from its scheduled landing. His eyes darted around to see who was watching him.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060821/...onbenet_ramsey

[PrettyGirl]

Thanks for posting that story Celeb_2006....that is sooooo infuriating. This pervert gets flown back to our country like a king and the poor working folk of America are scrambling pennies just to be able to fly anywhere! Who the hell do I write to to complain? The police? The White House? Let me at them!!

[UndercoverGator]

I'm almost done reading a book called 'fatal vision' by joe mcginnis about the infamous doctor jeffrey macdonald who is serving a life sentence for murdering his wife and two girls in the early 70's. The doctor that first treated him noted how hysterical and distraught he genuinely seemed (even though he had no life threatening injuries whatsoever). The evidence however strongly suggested he DID murder his family.

Joe McGinnis was hired specifically to write a book to prove how 'innocent' Jeffrey McDonald was but became completely convinced of the doctor's guilt after spending time with him during the trial and doing research.

Interesting that you bring up the McDonald case. It was a theory during his trial that he lost it while on amphetamine and started fighting with/ beating the wife. He may have accidentally started it all off by swinging a club or bat over his head and while wildly swinging hit his first daughter in the head killing her. He was just in a rage beating the wife but in an instant it morphed into killing his entire family.

And that is what I see as a possibility in the Ramsey case too. Parents fighting with each other viciously and someone goes to give the other partner a 'what for' with a blunt object and hits JonBenet by mistake. It's all downhill to a coverup from there..

[ediebrooks]

. And if she was on anti-depressants, I know for a FACT that depressed people sometimes move towatds becoming psychotic. .[/quote]That is rather a harsh generalization. There are plenty of depressed people on anti-depressants who lead sedate lives and don't "move towards becoming psychotic". You are also slamming a significant segment of the population, as depression is supposedly the "common cold" of mental illness.

[theroyalist]

I just saw Sky News, they showed Karr being flown back to America via Business Class. Like someone else said, seemed to be living like a king (and being treated like one)!

I don't know if this is the case in America (I'm in the UK) but the British press seem very dubious about his 'confession'. The whole JonBenet case hasn't really ever received much coverage here so apologies if I'm behind with the story.

There was a British guy speaking over the weekend and he said he met Karr a while back and he seemed obsessed by the Ramsay case. I know this guy Karr has been convicted of other crimes but I wonder if he's so twisted he's solely after being famous as he's certainly 'enjoying' the limelight. Have you ever seen anyone so calm......freaks me out. Very weird man.

Joanne

[Grimmlok]

Apparently, Bush is outraged that a pre-op transsexual was flying high and drinking champagne and eating prawns on his flight back to the U.S. to be formerly charged with murdering a young socialite-wannabe child-star with a penchant for dressing up as a hooker.

[celeb_2006]

If you thought tiny miss beauty was creepy....

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...322935,00.html



IN THESE polarised and war-weary times, it’s good to know that Americans can agree on one thing: John Ramsey is a total creep.
Ramsey is the 63-year-old software entrepreneur whose daughter, JonBenet Ramsey, was beaten and strangled to death in her own home ten years ago. Although neither John nor his wife Pasty were ever charged, he was widely blamed for JonBenet’s killing — and continues to be, even after the death of Patsy from ovarian cancer and last week’s arrest of the teacher John Karr, a child-porn connoisseur who claims that he broke into the Ramseys’ home and murdered the six-year-old (the possibly delusional Karr was extradited from Thailand yesterday, allowing the New York Post to run a front-page photograph of Karr in business class, alongside the headline: “Snake on a Plane”).
Given Karr’s confession — and the lack of any hard evidence against the Ramseys — why does the girl’s father continue to be vilified? Because the businessman, whose late wife was a former Miss West Virginia, allowed his daughter to be trussed up like a call girl and paraded around kiddie-pageants — collecting such titles as Little Miss Merry Christmas, Little Miss Sunburst, and, my favourite, National Tiny Miss Beauty.

What father, tub-thumped the US public, could possibly allow his daughter to be sexualised in this way and displayed for the complicated pleasure of adults? Indeed, the latest development in the JonBenet case has given everyone a new excuse to get all moralistic about such violations of childhood.
Take The New York Times, which on Sunday dedicated its front page to a story about child modelling agencies that publish suggestive online photographs of pre-teens. Read the intro: “The model is shown rising out of a bubble bath, suds dripping from her body. Her tight panties and skimpy top are soaked and revealing . . . The model’s name is Sparkle. She is — at most — nine years old.” I’m not going to argue that this isn’t deeply unsettling. But it seems only fair to point out that America has developed an astonishing set of double standards on the issue of child exploitation.

[DitaPage*]

That is rather a harsh generalization. There are plenty of depressed people on anti-depressants who lead sedate lives and don't "move towards becoming psychotic". You are also slamming a significant segment of the population, as depression is supposedly the "common cold" of mental illness.

Thats why I said 'sometimes'. I didn't say always. I just re read my post though and I should have put 'some' depressed people, not just depressed people. Its just that when I had a depressed relative, who also had a mental illness to do with distorted body image, the doctor said that depression leads to all sorts of things like anxiety, becoming a recluse, agoraphobia and SOME can become psychotic. Little things might set them off more than they would someone who hasn't been diagnosed with depression/mental illness, and was on medication. Thats what I meant to say in the post; I dont know Patsy Ramsey obviously, but if she got into a rage over bed wetting or lost her temper for some other reason and killed Jonbenet in that rage, she would probably have been charged with manslaughter. From what I know, people with depression/mental illness, depending on how severe it is, might have trouble controlling what they say/do.

[Algernon]

I just read about this 'connection' to Karr in my newspaper today (I pulled the quote from Wikipedia.org)

The school yearbook belonging to a female classmate of Karr's may provide the link between Karr, the yearbook, and the Ramsey ransom note. The ransom note is signed with the initials "S.B.T.C." In the yearbook, Karr ended his signature with the line, "Though, deep in the futuRE, MAYBE I SHALL BE THE CONQUERER [sic] AND LIVE IN MULTIPLE PEACE ANGELICY. [sic] FOREVERMORE..................Philosophy of a DREAMER."

I Shall Be The Conquerer....SBTC.

Hmmmmm...I dunno.
(Hopefully this hasn't been posted yet, I'm having a hard time keeping up with this thread...)

[sprynkles]

I've read speculation that S.B.T.C may have meant saved by the cross, as the ransom note also said "victory" right before the mysterious initials. Some point again to Patsy, as she appeared to be Christian.

[DeChayz]

But then why would she sign the note with something that would point back to her?

[sprynkles]

IMO she DID write that note. Why did she say any of the things in that note?
Under extreme duress and in shock, not thinking clearly? Who knows. (Since it is speculation) It may be a stretch. Maybe it's a personal hope of hers that she will be forgiven. In the hand writing exemplars, the pre-murder samples, clearly have the same letter formations as the ransom note. It's quite amazing actually.

[DeChayz]

I did see the side by side handwriting samples, and I really didn't see any similarity. I have no idea whether or not the Ramseys were involved (though of course we all hope any parents wouldn't do this to their innocent child), but in all honesty the handwriting didn't look the same to me.

[sprynkles]

http://blabbieville.tripod.com/
If you go to this site, first go to "more Ramsey examples", then look at pg 2 of the actual ransom note. (Not the test ransom notes she had to do.) Notice very carefully how the small case A s change styles. Then go back to the first page of the site and click on "the London note" and see the exact same changes in the letter A. It was written before the murder. She even does it in her right handed sample.