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    As soon as I read that the woman was missing and the sub sank, I thought she was dead and that he had something to do with it. I hope, I'm wrong and she is found alive, but if she is dead, I hope her body is recovered.

    http://gizmodo.com/swedish-journalis...ine-1797750907
    Man Charged With Killing Missing Journalist After Crowdfunded Sub Sinks [Updated]



    On Friday, the UC3 Nautilus, a famous DIY submarine, sank off the coast of Denmark. Its owner, Peter Madsen, was later rescued and claimed he’d had technical difficulties. Copenhagen police now say that they’ve charged Madsen with killing a Swedish woman who was last seen with him on board the submarine.

    When the UC3 Nautilus was first launched in 2008, it was touted as the world’s largest privately built submarine. It’s had some trouble along the way but was back in action this year. On Friday, however, it sunk off the coast of Denmark.

    The Associated Press reported early this morning that Peter Madsen, the owner of the vessel and co-founder of Copenhagen Suborbitals, was returned to shore by a private boat after a technical malfunction sank the sub. “I am fine, but sad because Nautilus went down,” Madsen told Denmark’s TV2, “a minor problem with a ballast tank ... turned into a major issue.”

    Further details are sketchy. According to the report, “The navy initially said the sub was ‘found sailing’ south of Copenhagen.” But later corrected themselves and confirmed that it had sunk. Soon thereafter, Copenhagen police confirmed that an unidentified woman had been reported missing and her boyfriend told authorities that she had been on the submarine doing a story for Wired. A spokesperson for Wired’s US division tells Gizmodo that the reporter was not working for them and they are trying to confirm if she was working for the UK division. The spokesperson was able to confirm that the editor in chief of Wired UK was not aware of the journalist or the story. The boyfriend is said to be the one who first alerted police that the submarine was missing when it didn’t return on time.

    According to Danish outlet Berlingske, a spokesperson for the Danish police said that Madsen claims he dropped the woman off in Copenhagen the previous night. “We know she was aboard the submarine last night, but we do not know if she was aboard the boat when she disappeared.” the spokesperson said. “All I can say is that the woman’s relatives reported her missing this night and that we still have not heard from her.” Local police have tweeted that they are investigating and have no further comment at this time.

    “It took about 30 seconds for Nautilus to sink, and I couldn’t close any hatches or anything,” Madsen told reporters. Co-founder of the DIY rocket ship group Copenhagen Suborbitals, Madsen is a an eccentric renaissance man who helped build the UC3 Nautilus with a group of volunteers over the course of three years. It was launched in May of 2008 and performed relatively smoothly for several years before being grounded in 2011. Repairs and maintainance were needed and following a crowdfunding campaign on Indiegogo, it relaunched in April this year.

    Copenhagen Suborbitals is a group of amateur rocket enthusiasts that supports itself through crowdfunding and has around 55 volunteers. The collective hopes to one day fly a volunteer on one of its rockets but flight tests have, so far, failed. The Nautilus was another project for the group and was a bigger success. In 2014, Madsen left the group to focus on other projects, one of which being the UC3 Nautilus.

    The UC3 Nautilus submarine association was formed in order to separate ownership of the sub from Copenhagen Suborbitals. But within a year, Madsen was feuding with the board of that organization over who the proper owner of Nautilus really was. A statement on the association’s website claims that board members received a text message from Madsen that read in part, “You may think that a curse is lying on Nautilus. That curse is me.” After several rounds of negotiation, the board decided to cede ownership of the vessel to Madsen.

    The submarine’s tumultuous journey is now at an end. But many questions remain unanswered. First and foremost, authorities are scrambling to find the missing journalist that was last seen with Madsen. Police divers are reportedly searching the area for the UC3 Nautilus wreckage. The Danish navy is also encouraging members of the public who have the right equipment to help with the search.

    Update 08/11/17 2:10pm: According to a press release from Copenhagen police, Madsen has been arrested and charged with “killing” the Swedish woman. He denies the charges and claims he dropped the still unidentified woman off in Copenhagen on Thursday night around 11:30pm local time. Police are seeking any witnesses who may have seen the woman after 4pm on Thursday.

    Police say that the submarine was found by divers but will need to be hauled to shore before they can enter. It was found on the seabed in Koge Bay, seven meters below the surface.

    The police description of the missing woman reads:

    160 cm tall, 56 kg, 30 years, faint of building, reddish brown hair, green eyes. Wearing an orange blouse with long sleeves, black and white floral skirt, nylon stockings and white tennis shoes.

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    Sorry for the double posting, but I can't ETA this link to a Danish article with a chilling eye witness account of how the submarine sank, which I think suggests that it wasn't a technical malfunction, but rather something the captain did deliberately.

    http://www.bt.dk/krimi/kristian-var-...et-sug-igennem
    "We see the submarine out there around 11 o'clock, where the owner sits and looks out of the submarine's tower. At one point he crawls down and then an airflow comes through the submarine. Then the owner returns to the tower and the submarine begins to sink. “

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    Well, the submarine has been raised, and the female journalist was not in it. The police think that the owner/captain sank the sub deliberately. Strange.
    My personal theory is that he killed her inside the sub, dumped her body somewhere, and sank the the sub to destroy evidence of the crime.
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    Horrible. I hope she is found

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    Well, Peter Madsen (owner of sub) has admitted that Kim Wall (female journalist) is dead. He claims she died in an accident on board and he "buried her at sea".

    Fucking bastard.
    I do hope her body is recovered and the autopsy reveals the real cause of death.

    Link to an article in Danish: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/ub...er-doedsulykke

    ETA: A female torso has been found in the water not far from where the sub was scuttled. It is not yet known, if it is Kim Wall, or if the limbs were seperated from the body by force or by the elements.
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    The torso has been identified as Kim Wall via DNA match. The arms, legs and head have been severed deliberately. The torso was tied to some metal and had damages that were meant to keep it from floating. Blood from Kim Wall has been found inside the submarine. Peter Madsen still claims she died in an accident.

    Article in Danish: https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/dr...-paa-havbunden

    This guy is a grade A psychopath. He was completely calm, when he was saved after the sub sank. He gave thumbs up and chatted with the journalists, saying he was fine, but a litte sad that his sub had sunk. This only hours after dismembering a woman and throwing her in the water. It's sick.
    He made up some lie that he set her ashore and scuttled his sub on only 7 metres of water. He probably thought the police would believe him and he could raise the sub later and continue his life and sail around in his little sub, where he killed and dismembered a woman.
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    Fucking lunatic. Let's hope they nail this psycho.
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    Police have also reopened the investigation into the 1986 murder of Japanese tourist Kazuko Toyonaga whose dismembered body was found in the same area. Madsen was 15 at the time and their is no proof that Ms Toyonaga's death is connected to Kim Wall's but...

    Police probing submarine death of journalist reopen 1986 case of dismembered Japanese tourist | National Post
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    Peter Madsen was in court today, because the temporary hold ran out. The judge decided not to close the doors for the press, so we now have his full explanation.

    He claims Kim Wall died because she hit her head on the submarine lid weighing 70 kg, and that her body was intact, when he disposed of it, and that the iron bar tied to the body didn't come from the sub. So, what's his scenario here: He disposed of her body in the water, someone else found it, dismembered it, tied iron bars to it, and put it back in the water?
    As an explanation why the body was naked, Madsen said the pantyhoses and panties slid off when he hoisted he up out of the sub with a rope. I think anyone who's has worn pantyhoses will agree that they might slide off to the knnes, but you need to pull with your hands to get them all the way off.
    I'm glad his explanation is so ridiculous, as that makes it more likely he'll be convicted, I think.

    He also said, he scuttled the sub, because he wanted to kill himself, but changed his mind about that. Shame, that he didn't give Kim Wall the opportunity to decide for herself if she wanted to live or not, and that he didn't give her family the opportunity to decide how they wanted to bury her body.

    The judge decided to extend the temporary hold another four weeks and that Madsen will undergo a mental examination, which is normal is this type of cases. Madsen is fighting both orders.
    Madsen is charged with manslaughter, alternatively involuntary manslaughter (meaning if they fail to convict him of manslaughter, they'll try to get him convicted of IM) plus indicent handling of a dead body. Madsen is denying both manslaughter and IM, but has now admitted to indicent handling of a dead body, which he initially also denied.
    I don't see him being charged with deliberate murder, unless they find hard evidence like the rest of Kim Wall's body, or possibly a DNA link to the Japanese tourist.

    Peter Madsen is so arrogant, he fancies himself more intelligent than everyone else, and he seems to care more about the submaring and himself than Kim Wall.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...adsen-kim-wall
    Danish inventor faces murder charge over journalist's submarine death

    Peter Madsen says Kim Wall was struck by falling hatch cover in a ‘terrible accident’ on board his self-built vessel

    A Danish inventor faces a charge of murder over the death of the Swedish journalist Kim Wall, whose headless body was found last month floating in the waters off Copenhagen.

    Peter Madsen, 46, who denies killing Wall, told a pre-trial custody hearing in the Danish capital on Tuesday that the journalist, who had boarded his self-built submarine for an interview, died when a heavy hatch cover fell on her.

    He said he had climbed out ahead of Wall and was standing on top of the surfaced submarine holding the 70kg hatch cover open, but lost his footing and it hit her head. He said he heard a thud as she fell to the floor bleeding from a fractured skull.

    “It was a terrible accident, a disaster, no doctor could have done anything,” he told the court. “Kim was severely injured. There was a pool of blood where she landed. I touched her neck, but she had no pulse.”

    After hearing defence and prosecution arguments, the judge Anette Burkø ordered Madsen to be detained for four more weeks. “I find there is reasonable suspicion that the detainee is guilty of murder,” the judge said.

    Madsen, who has been in custody since 12 August on the lesser charge of negligent manslaughter, will appeal against the decision and has declined to submit to a voluntary psychiatric examination, his lawyer said.

    The court heard statements about Madsen’s alleged taste for violent pornography and sadomasochistic sex, including claims that he had had sex with several women on board the submarine.

    Madsen told the court he felt “suicidal” after Wall’s death. He said he had wanted to bury her at sea, attaching a metal weight around her waist so her body would sink, and planned to sink his submarine, taking his own life.

    “In my shock I thought it was the right thing to do,” he said. “I didn’t want a dead body in my submarine. I put a rope around her feet to drag her out. I thought a fitting end for Peter Madsen would be on board the Nautilus. I decided I couldn’t continue the life I had been living.”

    He had no explanation for Wall’s severed head and limbs, saying she was “in one piece” when he last saw her body. Asked by the prosecutor Jakob Buch-Jepsen whether he had ever carried a saw on the vessel, he said he had, but there was none on board on the day he took Wall for their short sea voyage.

    Wall, 30, a respected freelance journalist based in New York and China who had written for the Guardian, the New York Times and others, was last seen alive on the Nautilus on 10 August. Her boyfriend reported her missing that evening.

    Police and coastguard located the 60ft (18 metre) UC3 Nautilus – the largest self-built submarine ever made when it was launched in 2008 – in Køge Bay, about 30 miles south of Copenhagen, the following morning.

    Madsen, a self-taught engineer with cult status in Denmark, was rescued by a private boat soon afterwards, just before the submarine sank. He initially told his rescuers he had got into difficulties trying to repair a problem with the ballast tank.

    Investigators have said traces of Wall’s blood, DNA-matched against her hairbrush and toothbrush, were found inside the refloated submarine. Buch-Jepsen told the court a pair of women’s underpants and tights were found in the engine room.

    After first telling police he had dropped Wall off on dry land on the city outskirts once the interview was over, Madsen said 24 hours later she had died in an accident. He told the court her clothing had come off when he threw her body overboard.

    The charge against him was extended on 21 August to include “improper interference with a corpse” after Wall’s torso – identified by further DNA tests – was found washed up on the coast of Copenhagen’s Amager island.

    Police have said the body had been stabbed multiple times, apparently in an attempt to ensure a buildup of air would not lead to it floating to the surface, and that metal piping had been attached to it to make it sink.

    An entrepreneur, artist, submarine builder and aerospace engineer, Madsen has also successfully launched rockets in the hope of developing private space travel.

    In 2015 he sent a text message to two volunteer members of his team saying there was a curse on Nautilus. “That curse is me,” the message said. “There will never be peace on Nautilus as long as I exist.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by idunno View Post
    I'm glad his explanation is so ridiculous, as that makes it more likely he'll be convicted, I think.
    I feel terrible for laughing out loud at his ridiculous explanation for everything. Someone else found the body and dismembered it even though it was naked from the waist down? Yeahhhh mate, sure.


    Peter Madsen is so arrogant, he fancies himself more intelligent than everyone else, and he seems to care more about the submaring and himself than Kim Wall.
    If I was a backer I'd be pretty pissed that I funded a murder mobile :/

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    The court heard statements about Madsen’s alleged taste for violent pornography and sadomasochistic sex, including claims that he had had sex with several features on board the submarine.
    Is someone going to tell me that this is a typo, or a mistranslation? PLEASE?
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    This is the weirdest story. And of course this guy is totally full of shit. We'll probably never know what really happened. Well, except he murdered her, plain and simple. I just hope he gets charged with it, and not just for desecration of a corpse, a la Robert Durst when he killed his neighbor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post
    I feel terrible for laughing out loud at his ridiculous explanation for everything. Someone else found the body and dismembered it even though it was naked from the waist down? Yeahhhh mate, sure./
    I just want to clear up that Madsen did not say someone else found and dismembered the body, that was my attempt at an explanation. Madsen said when he disposed of the body it was intact, he has not given any explanation for why or how is was dismembered.
    He is being described as intelligent, but not admitting to the dismembering is just stupid. Forensics don't lie. I'm sure he'll change his story on this later on. He didn't prepare for the body being found. A witness said, he and Madsen had talked about different ways of getting rid of a body at sea. Hmmm.....

    Quote Originally Posted by faithanne View Post
    Is someone going to tell me that this is a typo, or a mistranslation? PLEASE?
    I have not read anything about "sex with features" in Danish papers. They talked about his sex life, which includes strangulation sex, SM and weird rape-porn. Apparantly Madsen was obsessed with death and sex in the days before the murder.

    Another telling thing about him, is that he often refers to himself as "Peter Madsen" og "Rocket-Madsen", when answering questions. For example:
    Q: Do you have a violent temper.
    A: Peter Madsen is a deeply deeply committed person.
    *barf*

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    I read about this when it first happened, before they raised the sub or found her torso. So much wtf.
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    It drives me crazy that he is only up for involuntary manslaughter.

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