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    ABOARD THAI AIRWAY TO LOS ANGELES (AP) - John Mark Karr, the suspect in the death of 6-year-old JonBenet Ramsey, sipped champagne and ate fried king prawns in business class Sunday after being put aboard a flight to Los Angeles to face charges in the United States.

    As Karr wined and dined in style and chatted with the three U.S. officials escorting him, another bombshell emerged: Reports that Karr sought treatment at a Thai sex-change clinic.

    Karr, who was not charged with any crime in Thailand, was being expelled because he is regarded as an undesirable person. He was not being extradited.

    His Thai Airways International flight took off about 8 p.m. (9 a.m. EDT) for the 15-hour flight to Los Angeles. Karr's journey will eventually end in Boulder, Colo., where he is expected to face charges of first-degree murder, kidnapping and child sexual assault in connection with the young beauty queen's 1996 killing.

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    Thai police whisked Karr into the immigration and customs zone at Don Muang International Airport from an immigration jail in Bangkok. At the departure gate, he talked amiably with fellow passengers. He was not handcuffed.

    On the plane, the 41-year-old teacher sat in a business class window seat next to Mark Spray, an investigator with the Boulder District Attorney's office. A U.S. Embassy official and an agent with "Homeland Security" on his T-shirt were also part of the escort party.

    Before takeoff, Karr took a glass of champagne from a flight attendant and clinked glasses with Spray, who sipped orange juice.

    Dinner on board, served on a starched white tablecloth, was one many passengers would envy. Karr started with a pate, then had a green salad with walnut dressing. The main course was fried king prawn with steamed rice and broccoli. Karr drank a beer, crushing the can with his hands when it was empty, then moved on to a glass of French chardonnay with his main course.

    The suspect was relaxed, smiling and chatting nonstop with the U.S. officials next to him - until the television news crews on the flight turned their cameras on. Then he stopped smiling, clutched the armrests of his seat and stared at his lap.

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    Karr did not speak to reporters, but at one point summoned an AP reporter over to his seat. He mentioned an interview she had given, recalling that someone asked her what he was like.

    "You said I looked you straight in the eye when I talked to you and I want to tell you I appreciate that, I thought it was nice," Karr told the AP reporter.

    Just hours before Karr's departure, a doctor at a seedy but popular clinic in downtown Bangkok specializing in sex-change surgery said Karr had come in for treatment.

    "He was one of my patients," Dr. Thep Vechavisit of the Pratunam Polyclinic said. He refused to provide further details.

    Another employee at the clinic, who spoke on condition of anonymity because she was not authorized to speak to the media, said Karr had talked with the doctor about a sex-change operation. This could not be confirmed by other sources.

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    Bangkok, where Karr lived on and off for two years, is regarded as a major global center for sex change operations. The Pratunam clinic advertises sex-change surgery for $1,625 - a bargain compared to U.S. prices, where male-to-female reassignment surgery can cost tens of thousands of dollars.

    Dr. Thep has received considerable publicity for his male-to-female operations and the clinic is one of the sponsors of an annual beauty pageant for transsexuals in the seaside resort of Pattaya.

    Karr appears to have been shadowed by gender issues since his early years, according to excerpts of e-mails published in the Rocky Mountain News that Karr wrote to University of Colorado journalism professor Michael Tracey.

    Karr said his father was a "strong influence but rarely around," and responded to Tracey's question about whether his "fascination with little girls - which clearly has a strong erotic component - is a way of going back."

    "Maybe I am not going back but have simply stayed consistent," Karr responded. "My peer group has not changed since I was a little boy, and girls were the people I was with always. Referring to them as a peer group is somewhat incorrect, but might also be the very definition of what they continue to be in my life."

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    Karr, once detained on charges of possessing child pornography, in recent years apparently traveled to Europe, Central America and Asia to search for teaching jobs.

    The case has sparked concern in Thailand over whether foreign teachers hired by Thai schools are adequately checked to weed out criminals and deviants. Thai Education Minister Chaturon Chaisang has ordered his ministry to look into the problem.

    Karr taught in at least two schools and was dismissed after two weeks at Bangkok Christian College, a prestigious elementary and secondary school, when parents complained he was too strict. He also failed to pass probation at a Catholic school for women.

    Chaturon said it has been too easy for unqualified foreigners to get teaching jobs, in part because those with proper qualifications are too expensive for many institutions, the state Thai News Agency reported.

    U.S. officials, the only ones to have actually interrogated Karr, have been silent about what he told them, citing his right to privacy and legal procedures. Secondhand accounts by Thai officials have been vague and contradictory.

    When Karr spoke to reporters Thursday, he said he was alone with JonBenet when she died in the basement of her home on Dec. 26, 1996, but that her death was an accident.

    "I am so very sorry for what happened to JonBenet," Karr told The Associated Press. "It's very important for me that everyone knows that I love her very much, that her death was unintentional, that it was an accident."

    Although Karr took responsibility for the girl's death there is little public evidence linking him to the crime, prompting some experts to speculate that he is either lying or delusional.

    "Many high-publicity crimes have these people coming out of the woodwork," said Elizabeth Loftus, director of the Center for Psychology and Law at the University of California-Irvine.

    Lawyers for the Ramsey family say a number of people already have confessed to the killing of JonBenet, but none had enough credibility to attract the attention of law enforcement.

    This jackass is living better than me. Fucking kook.

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    It just keeps getting weirder. Champagne and sex changes. What a combination.
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    He'll have to wear Depends and do laundry in prison...

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    He SO didn't do it. And his confession is seriously being doubted.
    Why would he get off on molesting/raping a little girl if he wanted to be a woman; I reckon hes gay. And the only connection he has with Jonbenet was his interest in the case.
    Something is really weird, especially since he's also getting the special treatment; is this how all suspected brutal child killers are treated?

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    ^Yup, wouldn't want to infringe on any of his rights. And while I too am doubtful of his involement, I don't believe we have heard what the confession was. US people aren't saying and the Thai's might just be butchering the details.

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    It'a a brilliant move!

    Get the creep on a plane where he can't go anywhere even if he wanted to... let him drink, get him relaxed and comfortable.

    He'll start talking for sure.

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