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    Parramatta shooting: Gunman identified as Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar

    Parramatta shooting: Gunman identified as Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar

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    Nick Ralston and Ava Benny-Morrison 2 hrs ago

    The 15-year-old boy who shot dead a NSW police employee outside the force's headquarters had not come to the attention of counter terrorism police before he carried out the "politically motivated" attack.

    High school student Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar shot dead police accountant Curtis Cheng, 58, from behind and at close range outside police headquarters at Parramatta at 4.30pm on Friday.

    The teenager, who went to school at Arthur Phillip High just 300 metres away from where the attack took place, then continued to fire his handgun outside the police building until he was killed in a shoot out with three special constables.



    ( Provided by Sydney Morning Herald) Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad shot dead accountant Curtis Cheng.


    NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said it was believed the teenager was acting alone and that police had no prior information that he posed "this type of threat".

    "We are exploring every avenue with regard to why he did what he did," Mr Scipione said.

    "We have no information that this individual posed this type of threat but ... we believe his actions were politically motivated and therefore linked to terrorism."

    Fairfax Media has been told Farhad was not linked to anyone targeted in Operation Appleby, the massive counter terrorism raids carried out in September 2014.



    Supplied Victim Curtis Cheng (left) and his family.


    Police had not yet uncovered any messages, religious writings or notes left by the teenager.

    His social media accounts appear mostly untouched since about 2013, when he sent tweets about the reality talent show The Voice.

    He did, however, visit nearby Parramatta mosque on Friday afternoon before carrying out the attack. It is understood he changed into the flowing black shirt and black trousers there. Detectives were seen visiting the mosque on Saturday.

    "He clearly went [to police headquarters] wanting to be killed so he very well may have got rid of everything beforehand," a police source said. "There is no way he was expecting to survive."

    Farhad is understood to have been carrying an "old-style handgun" but police were still yet to determine how he had obtained it.

    Mr Scipione said police were a "long way from establishing a full picture of the boy" but said he was of Iraqi-Kurdish background and born in Iran and had been living in North Parramatta with family.

    Premier Mike Baird said the shock that a 15-year-old could carry out such an act would be felt not just in Sydney but around the world.

    "How can someone so young undertake such a chilling act?" Mr Baird said.

    "It doesn't make sense. It should never have happened. Obviously we are all lost for words."


    ( James Brickwood) Police block off Charles Street in Parramatta, where witnesses saw two bodies lying on the ground.


    The chairman of the Parramatta Islamic Association, Neil El-Kadomi, said he was shocked at the actions of the 15-year-old boy. "We do not support anyone who does stupid things," Mr El-Kadomi said. "I strongly condemn such actions."

    Mr Baird urged people to go on with their lives as normal and enjoy the long weekend.

    "Everyone else should get on with their lives in the sense of, whatever you do on a Saturday, go out and do it," he said. "If you're going to the grand final, enjoy it, that's what we should do."

    Mr Scipione said he would meet with Mr Cheng's family on Saturday and said the entire NSW Police Force was in mourning a man who had worked with them for 17 years.

    "He was a much loved man, been with us a long time," he said. "I don't think I've ever heard anyone have a bad word about Curtis, and he will be missed."



    ( AAP) NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione and Premier Mike Baird on Saturday.


    Mr Scipione also praised the bravery shown by the special constables who responded to the shooting. "I don't think I've seen a greater act of bravery than what I saw last night with these three special constables," he said.

    "Those special constables certainly put their lives online, knowing they were under fire, probably aware that somebody had been shot, could even have been aware that it was one of their own."

    A critical incident investigation, known Strike Force Fellows, lead by the NSW homicide squad, will now investigate the double shooting and report to the state coroner.

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    i hear you A*O

    ETA: It is so frustrating and dangerous when Political Correctness overshadows everything else.
    It would be wonderful if everybody put aside their religious beliefs (especially extremists) and just treated each other with respect.

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    Parramatta shooting: Police search mosque in shooting investigation

    http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/parramatta-shooting-police-search-mosque-in-shooting-investigation/ar-AAf4QH1?li=AAavLaF&ocid=

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    The Parramatta Mosque has been searched, a senior police source has told the ABC, as investigations into Friday's fatal shooting of a civilian police force employee continue.

    Farhad Jabar Khali Mohammad, 15, shot and killed 17-year police force veteran Curtis Cheng at close range outside the Parramatta police headquarters.

    A senior police source told the ABC Farhad attended a mosque shortly before the shooting.

    The mosque believed to have been searched overnight is a few blocks away from the site of the shooting that killed Mr Cheng, 58, as he left work at 4:30pm on Friday.


    ABC News Gunman Farhad Jabar Khalil Mohammad, 15, was not known to police.


    Key points:

    *Parramatta Mosque raided overnight, senior police source told ABC

    *Mosque leaders gave full assistance to police in raid

    *Raid was part of investigations into fatal shooting at Parramatta police HQ

    *Shooter said to have attended a mosque shortly before attack


    Police said the warrant was undertaken by arrangement with leadership at the mosque, who gave their full assistance to police.

    Earlier, a police source said the teenager had been armed with a revolver and did not know Mr Cheng.

    After shooting Mr Cheng, Farhad fired at officers who emerged from the building to respond to the incident, but was killed when special constables returned fire.

    Earlier, senior law enforcement sources said it appeared the teenager had acted alone.

    "The people there (at the mosque) went looking for him after prayer," one source said.

    "There is a fair bit of information that he acted alone."

    They said after prayer he changed into a black robe.

    The ABC was told by a senior police source that it was the older brother of the Parramatta shooter who tipped off them off about the identity of Farhad.

    It is also understood Farhad's sister Shadi went missing on Thursday and flew out of Australia on a Singapore Airlines flight bound for Istanbul, and may be attempting to reach Iraq or Syria.

    Her family told police she had taken all her belongings.

    Police searched Farhad's North Parramatta home and confiscated computer equipment.

    ABC's police source said the youth had been "carrying on" outside police headquarters for a few minutes before the shooting.

    "He drew attention to himself to the extent some people caught it on their iPhones," they said.

    The gunman walked past a plain clothes female detective.

    "She was wearing a business suit and she wasn't carrying a gun," a source said.

    "This poor bloke [the victim] was apparently the first one to walk out of the building — he had a connection to the police force — that was it."


    Phone hook-up between Turnbull, Baird and Muslim leaders

    Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and NSW Premier Mike Baird have been holding talks with Muslim community leaders following the shooting.

    Ms Bishop said the issue of radicalisation must be addressed.

    "So we're certainly reaching out to the leaders of the Muslim community ... but working with the families at a grassroots local level ... it's the families that will be a frontline of defence against radicalised young people ... so we will be working very closely with them," she said.

    The ABC's Fran Kelly told the Insiders program that a phone hook-up between "the Premier, the Police Commissioner and the Prime Minister with seven or eight members of the Muslim community" took place last night.

    She said Mr Turnbull used the phone call to convey the message that "we have a remarkably cohesive society, respect is key to that and [urged] everyone to work together to expose preachers of hate".

    The ABC understands the community leaders were impressed by the move and communicated their willingness to work with governments. One leader said the conversation reset the relationship.

    Muslim community leaders said they were shocked by the tragic shooting of Mr Cheng.

    They called for more to be done to stop extremist leaders from recruiting vulnerable youths.

    Sydney Muslim community leader Ahmad El-Hage said the Government only acted when extremist thoughts turn into acts of violence.

    "And we tell them this is not correct we need to act way before that," he said.

    Mr El-Hage said the Government needed to focus on the extremist leaders rather than the young people they target.

    Youth worker Sheikh Wesam Charkawi, who works with high school boys to counter radical ideas, said the acts of one person should not reflect upon the broader Muslim community.

    He also said some of the youth he worked with feel marginalised.

    "Some of them in their families feel that there's a disconnect, some of them come from broken families and so there is an array of issues that can lead to criminality," Mr Charkawi said.

    He said despite youth being impressionable and often naive, nothing could justify what the shooter did.


    What we know about the gunman

    15-year-old boy

    Iraqi-Kurdish background

    Born in Iran

    Actions believed to be politically motivated and linked to terrorism

    Believed to have been working alone

    Has family in Australia

    Resided in the Parramatta area

    Was not known to police and had no criminal history


    Relative known to police and counter-terrorism authorities

    As part of their investigation, police are now trying to trace the ownership and history of the revolver used by Farhad in the attack.

    The ABC has been told the youth had never come to the attention of police.

    "We don't know anything about him," the source said.

    But it is understood a relative was known to law enforcement or intelligence agencies.

    "[The relative] was a bit of a problem, he did come to the attention of police and counter-terrorism [authorities]," a source said.

    One source confirmed the teenager was a Sunni Muslim who was born in Iran.

    He said he was of Iraqi-Kurdish background and may have been a refugee.

    "It is interesting he is a Kurd, the Kurds are among those bearing the brunt of ISIS, it doesn't make any sense," the source said.



    *Rest in Peace Curtis Cheng. My thoughts are with his family, friends and collagues.

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    Parramatta shooting: Online extremists harnessing anger of youth for lone wolf attacks

    http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/parramatta-shooting-online-extremists-harnessing-anger-of-youth-for-lone-wolf-attacks/ar-AAf3wNq

    Canberra Times
    Amy Corderoy and Nick Miller 7 hrs ago


    At just 15 years old Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar from Parramatta is part of a growing trend worldwide – that of teenagers being radicalised at younger and younger ages.

    His act of terrorism in Sydney came on the same day another 15-year-old boy in the UK was sentenced to life in jail for plotting an Anzac Day massacre in Melbourne.


    James Alcock Police officers leave flowers outside police headquarters in Parramatta, after employee Curtis Cheng was shot.


    It also follows a forum held by concerned community members and leaders on how to combat violent extremism among youth held in Bexley last week and warnings from the head of the Australian Security Intelligence Organization (ASIO) Duncan Lewis that teenagers are being radicalised much more quickly and at younger ages than ever before.


    Online radicalisation expert at Edith Cowan University Robyn Torok​ said in June that Islamic State had released a new book aimed at 13- to 20-year-olds living in the West, explaining how to get away with terrorist attacks.

    "It actually talks about how to be a young person and to blend in ... to be a lone wolf terrorist in the West," she said. "It's engaging, and a 13-year-old can understand it and act on it."

    While the book had been mocked by some commentators, Dr Torok said it should be taken seriously as it encouraged the teens to hide what they were doing from their family and friends while at the same time normalising the behaviours in their minds.

    She said social media activity from a number of different groups had also become more intense since Australia expanded its bombing from Iraq to Syria.

    When the British teenager planed his attack at just 14, he was an active member of a growing global network of radicalised youths organising themselves on Twitter, said Dr Amarnath Amarasingam​, from the University of Waterloo in Canada.

    "They call themselves a family," Dr Amarasingam told Fairfax Media. "It's a growing phenomenon, I don't think we've seen it to this extent in the past. There has been a mass mobilisation of not only fighters from around the world but all these youths who are supporting [IS]."

    Dr Amarasingam is researching the radicalisation of Muslim youths, contacting them in order to discover what motivates them to act as a propaganda "megaphone" for jihadists in Syria or elsewhere.

    "Centred on Twitter and Facebook, they call themselves the Baqiya family," Dr Amarasingam said. "They consider themselves to be this close-knit community online ... Twitter is the epicentre. You can be in direct communication with a fighter in Syria within about 15 seconds. That's part of the appeal, a lot of these youths feel like they're part of something, for the first time they're part of something greater than themselves."

    It is hard to gauge how large the Baqiya family is, but by one estimate it's 40,000 members, and growing. The vast majority are 20 to 28, but quite a few are 18 or younger, male and female.

    But other changing trends apart from age are emerging, according to Anne Azza Aly from the Countering Online Violent Extremism Research Program at Curtin University.

    Dr Aly told Fairfax Media she has begun compiling a database of 100 "self activators" around the world in an effort to compare and contrast trends and similarities.

    Although her research is in its early stages, Dr Aly said what she has already noticed is that more and more young people being radicalised are attached to the violence first, rather than religion.

    "Ten years ago older men were attached to ideology and immersed in the religious aspects first. Now more and more young people don't appear to have an intense ideology they have only a superficial attachment. They are driven by anger and violence."

    Dr Aly is keen to find out why the problems of radicalisation are emerging and why a country like Australia has a bigger problem than a country like Singapore which has a lot of similarities and a bigger Muslim population.

    "Part of it is the internet which is an echo chamber," said Dr Aly.

    Muslim community leader Dr Jamal Rifi said parents talking to their children can help and he called on them to watch for early signs of radicalisation.

    "I urge all parents, in particular fathers in the Australian Muslim communities to initiate a dialogue with their kids, teenage sons and daughters and to be alert for any changes in their behaviour and to seek help.

    "The earlier the better.
    "Please talk to your kids, please seek help early. Doing so does not mean you are getting them in trouble. It is the opposite. It means you are preventing them from getting in trouble and you might be saving their lives and the lives of others."

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    Quote Originally Posted by A*O View Post
    So, do we avoid the camel in the room again?
    Well, the guy in Oregon asked his victims if they were Christians before shooting them. Funny, when a white person does it he's automatically assumed to be "mentally ill". When it's a Muslim it's just plain old terrorism...
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