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    I hope I've put this into the right section, wasn't sure if it should be here, Sport or Crime & Punishment.

    South African police have arrested star sprinter Oscar Pistorius for allegedly shooting dead his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp at his home in Pretoria.

    Police said they had opened a murder investigation after a 30-year-old woman was found dead in the upmarket Silver Lakes gated community on the outskirts of the capital, where the Paralympic and Olympic runner lives.


    Oscar Pistorius is being questioned by police in Pretoria after his girlfriend was shot dead. Photograph: Streeter Lecka/Getty Images

    "We found a 9mm pistol at the scene. A 26-year-old man was taken into custody," a police spokeswoman said.


    Oscar Pistorius's girlfriend, Reeva Steenkamp, who has reportedly been shot dead. Photograph: Gallo Images/Getty Images

    Details about the incident remain unclear. There was speculation in the local media that Pistorius may have mistaken her for a burglar and the shooting could have been a result of a Valentine's Day surprise gone wrong. Local media suggested that Steenkamp may have been trying to surprise her boyfriend in his home on the heavily guarded compound and had been mistaken for an intruder. She was shot four times in the head and the arm.

    "I can confirm that a woman has been fatally wounded in a shooting at Oscar Pistorius's house," said the police spokeswoman. "A 26-year-old man has been taken into custody," she said. "The incident happened at 3am. We received a call and attended the scene. The call did not come from the man in custody but from another person. Currently there is an inquiry into what happened."

    There was a large police presence outside Pistorius's house and media descended on the estate where the shooting happened. Pistorius will appear in court later on Thursday. A police spokesman said the sprinter was distraught. "We can't comment on his emotional wellbeing, but he is traumatised after losing someone close to him," he said.

    Steenkamp, 30, a well-known South African model, had been dating Pistorius since November last year and was due to appear in a reality TV show called Tropika Island of Treasure. The law graduate from Port Elizabeth gave an interview to the Sunday Times in South Africa last week where she described her boyfriend as "an impeccable man who always has her best interests at heart".

    In the last 24 hours she was tweeting about her hopes for Valentine's Day, writing: "What do you have up your sleeve for your love tomorrow??? #getexcited #ValentinesDay." In one of her last tweets she responded to one follower who said she was going to make her husband a card with her children. Steenkamp wrote: "That sounds amazing! Wow that's what it's all about! It should be a day of love for everyone may it be blessed!"

    Steenkamp's publicist Sarit Tomlinson told Sky News that she was a "talented bright young girl" whose star was rising. "She was the sweetest human being and an absolute angel on Earth," she said. "She was the kindest most unbelievable girl." She said Steenkamp and Pistorius had been together for a couple of months in "a healthy fabulous relationship".

    On Steenkamp's Facebook page where she described herself as "SA Model, FHM Cover Girl, Tropika Island of Treasure Celeb Contestant, Law Graduate, Ambassador" tributes poured in. Sibi Tshego Sibanda wrote: "Heaven has gained an Angel. Rest in peace," and Elmarie Hattingh wrote: "Rest in Peace Reeva, May God be with the family and friends."

    South Africa has some of the world's highest rates of violent crime and some homeowners carry weapons to defend themselves against intruders.

    There were indications that Pistorius did have fears about his safety. In an interview with the Daily Mail before the London 2012 Games it was revealed he slept with a pistol next to his bed and kept a machine gun by a window. Pistorius had been arrested previously. In September 2009 he was arrested for assault after slamming a door on a woman. Family and friends at the time said it was an accident.

    Pistorius, known as Blade Runner because of the carbon fibre prosthetic blades he wears to race, is the world's best-known Paralympic star. He was born without fibulas in both legs and had his legs amputated as an 11-month-old. He made history at London 2012 when he became the first double amputee to run in both the Olympics and Paralympics, running in the 400m and 4x400m relay at the Olympics. During and after the competition he regularly tweeted pictures of him and his girlfriend together.

    The Johannesburg-born athlete won a legal battle over his blades with the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) in 2008 for the right to compete in able-bodied competition.
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    This is horrendous, that poor woman.
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    He's been charged with murder, so an accident, maybe not! I found this really shocking.

    I wouldn't want to live somewhere where I had to sleep with guns by my side and baseball bats by the door.

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    Hmm I was just listening to the Channel 4 news and they were saying that there's been reports of a disturbance before the shooting, and that the police are recommending that he should be denied bail.
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    I heard about this on the radio this morning as I was getting ready and they were saying there that the GF had been shot twice - once in the arm and once in the head. That rang an alarm bell for me as if he shot her in the arm first not only would she have screamed (and so been recognisable to him as his girlfriend) but I'm guessing the impact would have spun and felled her, making a head shot extremely hard. If he shot her in the head first then that's one hell of a shot to make in the dark, and again, the impact would have felled her so how did he get her in the arm as well?

    ETA: He's an amputee. In the time that it took for him to get out of bed and either put on his prosthetic legs or get into a wheelchair, arm himself and go to confront the 'intruder' he didn't have time to realise that it was his girlfriend or call the police for assistance?
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    Jings Kitty I hadn't even thought of that. Jesus.
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    None of us can predict how we'd react if we felt truly threatened; perhaps he did, perhaps he didn't. This is what happens when you have lots of access to weapons, unfortunately. Sometimes, your good intentions backfire. Sad.
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    I don't think this was an 'accident'. What with the alleged reports of domestic abuse etc... who knows.
    Poor woman. She sounded so excited about Valentine's Day.
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    The police are now saying that they had previously responded to several domestic disturbances at the address and a former girlfriend is also on record as saying that he isn't the kind of guy people think he is.

    Blade Runner Oscar Pistorius charged with murder after 'he accidentally shot dead his model girlfriend at his luxury South Africa home when he mistook her for an intruder'


    • Incident happened on his Pretoria farm, north-east of Johannesburg at 4am
    • Sprinter is in police custody before a court appearance later
    • They say they have been called to his house before for 'domestic' complaints
    • Dead woman is former FHM model Reeva Steenkamp
    • She was shot several times in the head, chest and the arm
    • Pistorius believed to have told police he thought she was an intruder
    • Media reporting it could have been a Valentine's Day surprise gone wrong

    By Martin Robinson, Simon Tomlinson and Dan Newling In Cape Town

    South African paralympic star Oscar Pistorius has been charged with murder and is in custody after reportedly shooting his girlfriend dead in the middle of the night after mistaking her for a burglar.
    It happened at 4am this morning and the woman may have been killed after a Valentine's Day surprise went tragically wrong at his mansion in Pretoria.
    The dead woman is Reeva Steenkamp, 30, a former FHM model who has been dating the 26-year-old for two months.
    She was shot in the head, the chest and the arm, police in the country have said, and Mr Pistorius will appear in court later today after a blood test in hospital.
    Pretoria police spokeswoman Denise Beukes confirmed he had been charged with murder, adding they had been called to his home on several occasions since 2011 to deal with 'allegations of a domestic nature'.
    Just yesterday Miss Steenkamp spoke excitedly on Twitter about her plans for Valentine's Day.

    She said: 'What do you have up your sleeve for your love tomorrow??? #getexcited #ValentinesDay'

    Replying to a follower, she later added: 'That sounds amazing! Wow that's what it's all about! It should be a day of love for everyone may it be blessed!'



    Message: Reeva yesterday went on to Twitter to say how excited she was about Valentine's Day

    Mr Pistorius, 26, is widely known as the Blade Runner, and has also been dubbed 'the fastest man on no legs'.

    THE NATION WITH THE 2ND HIGHEST GUN CRIME RATE ON EARTH



    South Africa has some of the world's highest rates of violent crime and many homeowners carry weapons to defend themselves against intruders.

    An average of nearly 50 people are murdered there each day, while there are also high levels of assault, rape, robbery and carjackings.
    But a case last year was so vile the largely desensitised public of South Africa was still shocked.
    Last summer a gang of robbers gunned down a father, raped and murdered his wife. Then, in a final act of sickening brutality, they drowned the couple’s 12-year-old son in scalding bath water.

    Amaro Viana (pictured) was murdered in Walkerville, a suburb of Johannesburg, to prevent him from identifying the three housebreakers who carried out the raid.

    According to United Nations research, South Africa has one of the highest firearm-related homicide rates in the world, second only to Colombia.

    The rate, which was measured per 100,000 people, put the country's score four times higher than the United States.

    According to statistics 12.7 in every 100 people in South Africa own a gun and it is estimated there are almost six million civilian firearms.

    In the UK during an average year there might be 600 murders, but in South Africa this would be more than 18,000. On top of this there are also 18,000 attempted murders each year.
    As a result of these high levels of violent crime, many people choose to live in gated communities and employ private security guards.

    These are especially common for middle class residents and often involve high perimeter fencing and alarm systems linked to security teams.

    The South African Police Service also often employs security companies to protect their own police stations, with the private security industry estimated to be worth 14 billion South African rand (1 billion).

    Fear of crime is high, with the Institute for Security Studies estimating that 50 per cent of people in Pretoria feel 'very unsafe' walking in their area at night.

    The Johannesburg athlete, who was born without fibulas in his legs and had the limbs amputated below the knee when he was 11 months old, had to win a legal battle over his blades with the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF) in 2008 for the right to compete in able-bodied competition.
    He was the first double amputee to run in the able-bodied Olympics and reached the 400 semi-finals in London 2012.
    Pistorius's father Henke said his son was 'sad', adding: 'I don't know nothing. It will be extremely obnoxious and rude to speculate. I don't know the facts.

    'If anyone makes a statement, it will have to be Oscar. He's sad at the moment.'

    His agent Peet van Zyl is heading to Pretoria to speak to his client.

    'I hope I can have access to him at the police station,' he said.

    'Oscar is a humble person and a lovely guy – I’m sure what’s happened has been a terrible mistake but I really don’t have the details at the moment.'
    Pretoria police would not confirm the man's identity until he appears in court, adding a 9mm pistol was recovered from the scene and a case of murder is being investigated.

    Officers are still busy with preliminary investigations at the scene, and statements are being taken from neighbours on the luxury Silver Woods estate.

    Police say the couple were the only people in the home at the time, there was no sign of forced entry and said the claim that Pistorius had thought his girlfriend was an intruder had not come from them.
    In 2009 Pistorius spent a night in police cells after a woman complained to police that he had assaulted her during a party at his house.

    The incident allegedly occurred at the same Silver Woods home as where Miss Steenkamp died.

    Although Pistorius was charged with assault, he was eventually released with a warning.

    At the time, police spokeswoman Sergeant Marinda Stoltz said the victim, whom Pistorius had told to leave, banged and kicked his front door.

    'He (Pistorius) told the girl ‘this is my house and my friends and you have to leave’. He then started closing the door when a wooden beam weighing about 1,5kg fell on her leg and injured her.'

    She said the girl reported the incident hours later. 'The girl then also admitted that she had been drinking,' said Stoltz.

    Homes there are surrounded by a giant wall, with electric fences and armed guards who stop every vehicle leaving or entering to keep it secure in a country with high rates of violent crime.
    Around 50 people every day are murdered in South Africa and it is common for people to keep weapons in their home.
    In an interview with the Mail before London 2012 it was revealed Pistorius slept with a pistol next to his bed, a machine gun by a window with a cricket bat and baseball bat behind the door.
    'The problem is when the guards are in on the crime. It’s usually safe in guarded estates like this until that happens,’ he said.
    In an interview with the New York Times he took a reporter to the local shooting range to fire his 9mm handgun and two boxes of ammunition.

    When the journalist hit the bullseye he said: 'If you practiced, I think you could be pretty deadly,' adding he would go shooting 'sometimes when I can’t sleep'.

    Arnu Fourie, Pistorius's roommate during London 2012 said today: 'My heart is broken for Oscar'.

    'I feel for Oscar and the girl's family, I pray for him and her family, I can not imagine how they feel.

    'Poor Oscar in his life had so many disappointments and tough times'.

    Miss Steenkamp, a law graduate from Port Elizabeth, gave an interview to the Sunday Times in South Africa last week where she described her boyfriend as 'an impeccable man who always her best interests at heart'.
    On February 1, Steenkamp tweeted about Pistorius, saying: 'He certainly doesn't need more followers but he's beautiful to look at & says some smart stuff too .'

    On her Facebook and Twitter pages, she describes herself as an 'SA Model, FHM Cover Girl, Tropika Island of Treasure Celeb Contestant, Law Graduate, Ambassador'
    This weekend, Steenkamp was set to star in South African reality television series Tropika Island Of Treasure, in which celebrities and ordinary people compete in remote, exotic locations in a variety of daily challenges.

    On the show's website, a tribute to Steenkamp says: 'We are deeply saddened and extend our condolences to Reeva's family and friends.'

    Sarit Tomlinson, Steenkamp’s publicist, told Sky News: ‘She was the sweetest human being and an absolute angel on earth. She was the kindest, most unbelievable girl.


    ‘They had been together for a couple of months and it had been a healthy, fabulous relationship. At the moment it’s shocking. No-one knows what’s happened.

    ‘She was a rising star. There was so much in the pipeline for her: she was just about to explode into the media.

    ‘She was a very talented, very bright young girl. It’s too shocking for words. We’ll miss her so much, too much. Our condolences go to her family.’
    The blade-runner has done more than any other athlete to put the Paralympics on the global map since he first won medals aged 17 in the Athens Games of 2004.
    He was expected to take home a haul of paralympic golds at London 2012 but failed to deliver.
    His first final was in the 200m, where he finished a shock second to Brazilian Alan Oliveira, and then accused rivals, including his young conqueror, of running on blades that were too long.

    Then Pistorius had to settle for fourth place in the 100m individual event when the glory went to Britain’s new track icon, Jonnie Peacock.

    But this defeat and the outburst were followed by a measure of redemption when Pistorius anchored his country’s 4 x 100m relay gold in a world record time.
    Just three days ago, Pistorius tweeted about his excitement regarding his first race of 2013, accompanied by a photograph of him in action.
    He said: '1 month till my first race of 2013.. Can't wait to burn it up!'

    Perhaps due in part to his sudden financial and sporting success, Pistorius has a notoriously complex love life.

    Prior to their split late last year, he spent a year and a half dating Cape Town marketing student Samantha Taylor.

    But even while he was with Miss Taylor, he was linked with numerous other women, including Russian model Anastassia Khozissova.

    Pistorius was first seen with Miss Steenkamp at an awards ceremony in South Africa last November. At the time, the FHM model said the pair were 'just friends'.

    But when it became clear that Pistorius and Steenkamp were in fact dating, the sportsman's then ex Samantha Taylor said: 'Oscar has such a way with women. She’s probably not the only one he’s got.”

    Miss Taylor went on to tell South Africa's City Press newspaper that 'Oscar is certainly not what people think he is.'

    PISTORIUS MANSION IS ON 'SAFEST ESTATE' IN SOUTH AFRICA

    The estate where South African athlete Oscar Pistorius is one of the country's best protected.

    In 2009, Silver Woods Golf Estate (above) was voted 'the most secure estate in South Africa', according to its website.

    Located in the east of the country's capital Pretoria, the estate consists of more than 1,600 plots of land up to 3,000 sq m (32,000 sq ft) built around an 18-hole golf course.

    Offering a tranquil lifestyle 'unparalleled in the Pretoria region', it has electrified fences, armed 24-hour security guards and manned controlled access.

    Prices for homes can be up to nine million South African rand (650,000) for a five-bedroom property.

    As well as its golf course, Silver Woods estate has tennis courts, a driving range, a restaurant, a squash club and a fishing club, as well as a 'social responsibility committee'.

    The estate incorporates a wildlife reserve, and in recent years new lakes have been built and existing ones enlarged to turn the estate into a wildlife haven, inhabited by rare birds such as African spoonbills, mongooses and giant African bullfrogs.


    The 26-year-old sportsman has a history of risk taking and also, reportedly, of violence.

    In November last year, he reportedly 'threatened to break the legs' of the friend of a man whom he believed had slept with his then girlfriend, who is not Miss Steenkamp.

    According to newspaper reports, the sportsman approached South African football player Marc Batchelor in the VIP room of a horse racing track and verbally threatened him.

    South African journalist Kalay Maistry told Sky News: 'It is alleged that he thought his girlfriend, who’d come in to try to surprise him for Valentine's Day, was an intruder. It’s alleged that he shot her in the arm and head.

    'I think what this actually highlights is the level of fear ordinary South Africans have.

    'This is a man who has gone to bed, it’s an innocent surprise from a girlfriend … and the moment he thinks someone is trying to break in he grabs his gun.

    'This has come as a complete surprise for a man who’s considered a national hero.'
    On Pistorius's website, a quote from Lord Coe from before London 2012 describes him as a 'real inspiration to people around the world', and a spokesman from sports giant Nike describes time with Pistorius as 'some of the most inspirational time we've ever spent around an athlete'.
    Lord Coe said: 'Oscar is an extraordinary athlete who has made a significant impact in international sport.

    'It will be fantastic to see him compete in London this summer - spectators can expect a real treat!

    'He's been a real inspiration to people around the world so we were thrilled when he decided to join our International Inspiration programme as an ambassador, helping us to inspire young people worldwide.'

    Arturo Nunez, Nike emerging markets marketing director, said: 'Nike routinely works with the best athletes in the world, and Oscar Pistorius stands out on that list.

    'Many world-class athletes visit Nike and amaze our community, but the two weeks that Oscar spent on campus last summer went down as some of the most inspirational time we've ever spent around an athlete.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittylady View Post
    I heard about this on the radio this morning as I was getting ready and they were saying there that the GF had been shot twice - once in the arm and once in the head. That rang an alarm bell for me as if he shot her in the arm first not only would she have screamed (and so been recognisable to him as his girlfriend) but I'm guessing the impact would have spun and felled her, making a head shot extremely hard. If he shot her in the head first then that's one hell of a shot to make in the dark, and again, the impact would have felled her so how did he get her in the arm as well?

    ETA: He's an amputee. In the time that it took for him to get out of bed and either put on his prosthetic legs or get into a wheelchair, arm himself and go to confront the 'intruder' he didn't have time to realise that it was his girlfriend or call the police for assistance?

    In SA if you hear an intruder you shoot before asking questions, so I believed his 'excuse'. But after reading your reply..... Yeah somehow the pieces don't fit.

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    I've known/worked with people who have lived and worked in SA and I can understand to a certain extent the fear that many people live under but too many things aren't sounding right here.

    * The previous police attendance following domestic disturbances at his address.
    * The time it would have taken for him to get up, mobile and armed and still not realise it was his girlfriend.
    * The cryptic comments made by a former girlfriend about the 'real' Oscar that predate the shooting.
    * The alleged threats of violence against others.
    * Miss Steenkamp's comment that he is "an impeccable man who always has her best interests at heart". Maybe I'm reading too much into that but if someone said that to me, particularly the latter part, I'd hear a tinkle of alarm in the back of my mind that the person they are speaking of might be overbearing or a bully. How often is controlling by a partner rapidly dismissed by the spouse as "he means well" or "he only does it because he wants the best for me"?
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    She was so pretty and bright with a great future. This is upsetting for so many reasons. It is troubling about the past calls. I hope they get to the bottom of this.
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    His lawyer released a statement saying Oscar is 'a bit emotional but fine'. Fine? FINE?
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    I don't know this guy and didn't even keep up with news on him prior to this, so did all my googling today. Wat rang the alarm bells for me?
    1. 4 shots fired, and apparently all shots hit target; what? No warning? Just waiting in the dark and shoot? As far as him being an amputee goes; he was amputated at 18 months old. People like that often are very swift hobbling around on their stumps and often prefer this at home.
    2. Where the shots hit the victim. You'd think if the arm shot was first, he indeed would have heard her cry out and that would have been the end of it. If the head shot was first, damn, that's lucky in the dark, but then he would have heard the body fall down, could have turned the lights on or something to check while keeping an aim on the "intruder". But then add 3 more shots, one of which was also in the head? Hmmmm, not likely.

    Then the news came that their had been several (recent) calls concerning domestic violence at that residence and that he was kind of a wild guy, partying etc.; with kind of a reputation for having a short fuse etc.

    Very sad and such an unnecessary death.
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    maybe he sleeps with his legs on.
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