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    I don't know if anyone here has been following this story, but something really screwed up happened in India. The details of this crime are so horrific that even Eli Roth couldn't have come up with them. It looks like this poor woman is losing her battle to stay alive.

    And just days later, another gang rape victim committed suicide because the police wouldn't press charges against her attacker and instead encouraged her to marry him.

    There have been massive protests in India asking for 1) justice for the two victims, 2) sweeping changes to how rapes are handled and 3) protection for women on public transportation.


    India Gang Rape Victim's Condition Deteriorating: Hospital

    SINGAPORE, Dec 28 (Reuters) - The condition of the Indian medical student, whose gang rape in New Delhi triggered nationwide protests, has deteriorated and there are signs her vital organs have failed, the Singapore hospital treating her said on Friday.

    "As of 9 p.m. Singapore time on Dec 28 (1300 GMT), the patient's condition has taken a turn for the worse. Her vital signs are deteriorating with signs of severe organ failure," Mount Elizabeth Hospital Chief Executive Officer Kelvin Loh said in a statement.

    "Her family members have been informed that her condition has deteriorated and they are currently by her side to encourage and comfort her," he said.

    The 23-year-old woman, who was severely beaten, raped for almost an hour and thrown out of a moving bus on Dec. 16, was airlifted to Singapore on Dec. 26 for specialist treatment.

    The Singapore hospital said earlier on Friday the woman had suffered "significant brain injury" and was surviving against the odds. (Reporting by Kevin Lim Editing by Ross Colvin)

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    I have been following the story of the first girl, but hadn't heard about the teen who committed suicide. This is insanely awful.
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    Just so,so sad. It does not sound like she will live. What monsters.
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    I was reading earlier that she's got serious brain injuries too, poor wee soul. Those men are animals, how they could do that to another human being is just beyond me. It sounds to me like somethings got to give over there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McJag View Post
    Just so,so sad. It does not sound like she will live. What monsters.
    I was just reading about this right before I came here. Sickening. With all of her injuries - I don't see how that poor woman can make it. I want to see the faces of who did this to her so I can see what pure evil looks like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karistiona View Post
    I was reading earlier that she's got serious brain injuries too, poor wee soul. Those men are animals, how they could do that to another human being is just beyond me. It sounds to me like somethings got to give over there.
    India has a serious imbalance of females to males now because of selective abortions and outright infanticide. Meaning that a lot of eligible guys in India will never have wives or families. I thought this would cause the pendulum to swing the other way toward being more respectful and solicitous of women. But it has actually caused things to get worse. People need to be raging in the streets and tearing stuff up because the whole system has turned a blind eye toward the issue for so long that it will require a huge institutional overhaul.

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    The Police encouraged her to marry him? What in the Hell! I was beginning to lose faith in the US.. But this is a whole new level of fuckery.

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    I watched a documentary recently that said China is heading towards the same scenario, the ratio of men to women will be really skewed. So sad. It does sound like there are loads of Indian people taking to the streets to protest, but so far it doesn't seem to be doing much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karistiona View Post
    I watched a documentary recently that said China is heading towards the same scenario, the ratio of men to women will be really skewed. So sad. It does sound like there are loads of Indian people taking to the streets to protest, but so far it doesn't seem to be doing much.
    I don't think India is as strongly centrally controlled as China, which at least has the ability to act in a unified (if authoritarian) way to stamp out certain activities. I think there are cultural issues at play, too, where Indian women have fared worse/had a lower status in society than Chinese women.

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    Why did it need an incident so unspeakably brutal to trigger our outrage?

    The harsh truth is rape is not deviant in India; it is rampant, almost culturally sanctioned.

    Shoma Chaudhury More by the author >
    December 20, 2012, Issue 52 Volume 9


    THE SURGING outrage at the gangrape of a paramedic in New Delhi this week is welcome and cathartic. But it is also terrifying. There’s a fear that this too shall fade without correctives. But there is also a question we must all face: why did it need an incident so unspeakably brutal to trigger our outrage? What does that say about our collective threshold as a society? Why did hundreds of other stories of rape not suffice to prick our conscience?


    The harsh truth is, rape is not deviant in India: it is rampant. The attitude that enables it sits embedded in our brain. Rape is almost culturally sanctioned in India, made possible by crude, unthinking conversations in every strata of society. Conversations that look at crime against women through the prism of women’s responsibility: were they adequately dressed, were they accompanied by a male protector, were they of sterling ‘character’, were they cautious enough.
    It’s not just the extreme savagery the young girl suffered that has jolted everyone therefore. Running beneath that is the affront that it could happen at 9.30 pm, while a decently dressed woman was with a male friend, in a well-lit tony south Delhi neighbourhood. This certainly accentuates the impunity that’s set in. But it also lays bare the maddening subtext that blunts our responses at other times. The assumption that rapes later at night, in places more secluded or less privileged, and of women who may be alone or sexily dressed is less worthy of outrage because they feed into two pet ideas India holds: that a woman asks for rape either through her foolishness or promiscuity. In some way or the other, she is fair game.


    There are other deep examinations this rape forces on us: what do we consider violence? Does it really need a woman to be tossed out naked on a road with her genitals and intestines ripped up for us to register violence? Why does gangrape horrify us more than mere rape? Why do rapes of Dalit or tribal or Northeastern women not shock the nation into saying “enough is enough”? We do not distinguish between bearable murders and unbearable murders; why does rape come graded in such debasing shade sheets?


    Rape is already the most under-reported crime in India. But beneath that courses a whole other universe of violence that is not even acknowledged. It’s not just psychopathic men in a rogue white bus who can be rapists: it’s fathers, husbands, brothers, uncles, friends. Almost one in every two women would have a story — perhaps told, perhaps untold — of being groped, molested or raped in the confines of their own homes. If they dare speak of it at all, they are told to bury and bear it. Take it as a part of life. To name an uncle who has been molesting a minor niece would be to shame the family. And marital rape — that stretches the very imagination. It’s a mark of our bestial ideas about women that even judges often suggest that rape survivors marry their rapists to avoid the hell of life as a single woman rejected by society.


    There are, therefore, three reckonings this horrific rape forces upon us now. How can India change its endemically diseased mindset about women? How can strong deterrences be built against rape? And how can contact with the police and justice process not be made to feel like a double rape?
    Harsher, swifter punitive measures are definitely needed to puncture the idea of immunity that’s built up around rape. Fear of consequence is a powerful tool. But that can be only one aspect of the correctives. What is equally needed is a government-led gender sensitisation blitzkrieg at every level of Indian society: in schools; in anganwadis; in pop culture; in village shows; in the police, legal and judicial fraternity. Even ‘sensitisation’ is too patriarchal a word: what we need is a determined drive towards modernity. Indians have an inherent impatience for process. We prefer the drama of retributions: demands for lynching and capital punishments. Set aside for a moment the larger argument against death penalties, we forget to ask, who will take these cases to a point where judgments can even be handed out?


    Earlier this year, TEHELKA published a sting investigation on how senior cops in the National Capital Region think about rape. It made for bone-chilling insights. But there was absolutely no action from the establishment. The argument went that the cops’ attitudes were merely a reflection of the society they came from. Nothing should make us more fearful than that.

    Link: Why did it need an incident so unspeakably brutal to trigger our outrage?


    TEHELKA INVESTIGATION: The rapes will go on


    G Vishnu , Tehelka More by the author >
    Abhishek Bhalla More by the author >
    December 22, 2012, Issue 15 Volume 9
    First published on 14 April 2012

    In a two-week long investigation, Abhishek Bhalla and G Vishnu spoke to more than 30 senior cops in the Delhi-NCR region. More than half had shockingly ugly views on rape victims. This is the face of law exposed. How can the system effect justice through men like these?
    She asked for it.
    It’s all about money.
    They have made it a business.
    It is consensual most of the time.
    Illustration: Anand Naorem

    THIS IS how policemen — keepers of the law and protectors of innocent — view rape in the Delhi- National Capital Region (NCR). Although generalising is fraught with hazards, this is one generalisation that can be made. There’s evidence to support this.
    A month ago, the outrageous apathy of our police towards rape victims was in full display when the Noida Police revealed the identity of a minor girl who was brutally gang-raped in a moving car. If that was not enough, the Noida Superintendent of Police cast aspersions on the girl’s character at a press conference. Besides the fact that, by doing so, the police flagrantly violated the law of the land — Section 228-A of the Indian Penal Code defines the disclosure of the identity of rape victims as an offence punishable by up to two years of imprisonment — it also gave a peek into the minds of the police and how they see the raped and the rapist.

    Often been called the rape capital of India, the Delhi-NCR region has thrown up numerous such instances of police apathy in rape cases. When asked to explain the rising instances of rape, the cops have invariably blamed the women, an array of extraneous factors or resorted to specious arguments instead of looking inwards and focussing on police reforms. The most disturbing aspect of this is the rank misogyny that underlies it.A few weeks later, the Gurgaon Police outraged civil society by proposing a blanket curfew on working women in the city after 8 pm without prior permission from the Labour Department. This was the first reaction by the police after the report of a brutal gang-rape of a pub employee by six men. The police made no statement about the rapists. Later, however, the police put out a statement asserting they had been misquoted by the media.



    Here is a quick reckoner. In 2010, as many as 414 rape cases were reported in Delhi, the highest among 35 major cities in the country. According to the National Crime Records Bureau (NCRB), the conviction rate in rape cases in the capital was a dismal 34.6 percent. In case after case, courts have been acquitting the accused because of flawed first information reports (FIRs), erroneous procedures in collating medical evidence and shoddy investigation. Lawyers and women rights activists have continually been flagging the deep prejudice prevalent in the police against women in general and rape victims in particular, as the single biggest reason for the repeated failure of justice.


    But instead of addressing core issues like poor conviction rates, under-reporting of rape cases by victims (studies indicate that for every reported case of rape, more than 50 go unreported), the lack of faith between the victim and the police and the insensitivity of the police personnel towards women, our police and ministers want to ban late-night work shifts or keep women away from unconventional jobs like bartenders.
    Sunil Kumar SHO, Ghazipur, Delhi-NCR

    THE FARCE
    Sunil Kumar

    SHO, Ghazipur, Delhi-NCR
    ‘Go to a pub in Greater Kailash, South Delhi, where there’s free entry for girls. You’ll find those who want to do ‘it’ for a thousand rupees. They’ll drink and also have sex with you. But the day someone uses force, it’s rape’
    Rajan Bhagat Additional DCP PRO, Delhi Police

    THE FACE
    ‘There is sensitisation at the induction level as well as specialised courses on the job. The objective is to handle women in crisis. In these courses, officers are apprised with latest court orders’
    Rajan Bhagat
    Additional DCP PRO, Delhi Police
    HAVE WE created a system that instills fear in the heart of offenders, promotes deterrence and ensures that offenders get exemplary punishment? While we may have excellent statutes to deal with crimes against women, do we also have the police machinery to implement the law in its letter and spirit? Are police stations of the NCR being manned by professional and efficient police officers who can deliver justice to hapless women turning up at their doors?
    TEHELKA decided to investigate the conduct and approach of Station House Officers (SHOs) and their deputies who are in charge of police stations in the NCR. These cops are the first point of contact for any victim of sexual assault when they have to lodge a complaint. The objective was to find out if there was any latent bias among the police personnel towards rape victims.


    In a two-week long investigation, TEHELKA undercover reporters posing as research scholars, visited 23 stations across the NCR and spoke to more than 30 policemen with experience of 20-30 years. The reporters did not make misogynistic comments or incite the policemen to say or do something they wouldn’t have otherwise said or done. The line of inquiry was to be completely neutral and non-partisan. And what we came back with was shocking.
    Our two week long investigation reveals that the NCR, which houses some of the leading industries from around the world and where lakhs of women work alongside men, is policed by the cops with a 19th century mindset.
    Every time a rape accused gets away due to shoddy investigations, it reinforces the cops’ belief: she had asked for it
    Seventeen senior cops of over a dozen police stations across Gurgaon, Noida, Ghaziabad and Faridabad were caught on spy camera blaming everything from fashionable or revealing clothes to having boyfriends to visiting pubs to consuming alcohol to working alongside men as the main reasons for instances of rape. ‘It’s always the woman who is at fault’ was in essence the argument offered by a majority of the cops. Many of them believe that genuine rape victims never approach the police and those who do are basically extortionists or have loose moral values. Others believe that the women from Northeast could never be victims of forced sex as they are invariably involved in the flesh trade. Even more shockingly, some of them are of the view that if a woman has consensual sex with one man, then she shouldn’t complain if his friends also join in. If a woman is doing late hours at the office then she had it coming… and the arguments keep coming.


    IF THE police personnel are to be believed, everything from co-education to migration to cities to being independent and assertive and holding unconventional jobs are reasons for the rise in rape incidents across NCR. So mind-numbing are these admissions that one cannot help but wonder about the plight of the rape victims in mofussil towns and villages if the police in and around the capital is so deeply prejudiced. The TEHELKA expose warrants an urgent soul-searching at the highest levels of the police administration and demands immediate corrective steps in the police training and investigation.
    Sample what Sunil Kumar, SHO, Ghazipur, East Delhi, had to say. “Go to a pub in South Delhi. Go to Greater Kailash where there is free entry for girls. Jinhone 1,000 rupaiye mein wo karna hai wo wahan jati hain. Daru bhi peeti hai aur aap ke saath sex bhi karti hai… Jis din koi thok dega rape ho jayega. (In these places you’ll find girls who want to do ‘it’ for Rs 1,000. They will drink and also have sex with you. The day somebody uses force, it becomes rape).”
    THE FARCE: Rajpal Yadav Add’l SHO, Sector 29, Gurgaon ‘Girls from Darjeeling and Nepal have come here for business purposes. They go with men for money, but if the money isn’t enough, it becomes rape’



    Sub-Inspector Arjun Singh, SHO Surajpur Police Station, Greater Noida, also pins the blame on the victim. “Ladkiya ek seemit daire main, seemit kapdon main nahi niklengi… to apne aap khichaon ho jata hai.Wo khichaon bhi aggressive kar deta hai ki kar do bas (If girls don’t stay within their boundaries, if they don’t wear appropriate clothes, then naturally there is attraction. This attraction makes men aggressive, prompting them to just do it).”
    There’s also ethnic bias against those from the Northeast. Try RajpalYadav, Additional SHO of Sector 29, Gurgaon: “Yahan pe Darjeeling aur Nepal tak ki ladkiyan business purpose se aye hai… wo jaate bhade pe hain. Baad mein paisa nahi mila to rape case bata diya jata hai (Girls from Darjeeling and Nepal have come here for business purposes. They go with men for money. Later, when the money is not sufficient, it becomes a rape).”
    In the two-week long investigation, TEHELKA undercover reporters visited five police stations in Gurgaon, six in Noida, four in Ghaziabad, two in Faridabad and six in Delhi. Out of the 30 policemen TEHELKA spoke to, 17 were extremely prejudiced, misogynist and shockingly insensitive towards rape victims. Five scored well on the enlightenment card.


    DESPITE THE Noida Police facing flak for lewd comments about the victim and her family, Ram Kumar Malik, the investigating officer for the case of the girl raped by Class X students is unrepentant. TEHELKA captured Sub-Inspector Malik on camera brazenly pinning the blame yet again on the victim alone: “Is case mein jo real baat hai, ladki vodka peene ki habitual hai. Usne vodka party mangi, Rs 6,000 mein book ho gai. Physical relation ke liye 6,000 mange. Baad mein mukadma likha diya. Yeh real baat hai. Mere pass uske CDR call detail ka record hai; unka purana relation hai (The real issue here is that the girl is a habitual vodka drinker and had asked for a vodka party. She then demanded Rs 6,000 for sex. When the money wasn’t paid, she registered a rape complaint. I have her call records that establish she had a relationship with one of the accused).” Pointless to ask him how having a consensual relationship with one boy could warrant a girl being raped by 4 other boys.


    Malik then turns his guns on the family and character of the girl: “Is ladki ki ma ka pehle hi divorce ho gaya. Aur wo ek Yadavji ke saath beth gayi. Uski umar 48 hai, admi 28 saal ka. Saath mein do ladkiyan. Behekna to tei ho gaya. Nahi ho gaya? (The girl’s mother is divorced. She’s living with another man from the Yadav community. She’s 48 whereas the man is 28. It’s inevitable the two daughters will be wayward, isn’t it?)


    “Ab jab 48 saal ki ma, 28 saal ke purush ke saath so rahi hai, do jawan ladkiyan dekh rahi hain, unko bhi zaroorat hogi. Sex is like hunger,” he continues. (Now when two young girls watch their 48-year-old mother sleeping with a 28-year-old man, even they’ll be aroused. Sex is like hunger).”
    Blaming the victim, however, is not limited to Malik. The attitude was generic and TEHELKA found many more subscribers in the system.

    More at link: TEHELKA INVESTIGATION: The rapes will go on

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    Quote Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja View Post
    I don't think India is as strongly centrally controlled as China, which at least has the ability to act in a unified (if authoritarian) way to stamp out certain activities. I think there are cultural issues at play, too, where Indian women have fared worse/had a lower status in society than Chinese women.
    Oh I don't think China will have these same problems, it was just the issue of the gender imbalance that was brought to mind.

    According to ITV news, the poor girl has passed away: India rape woman dies - ITV News
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    This is so sad, I hope she pulls through with no long term injuries. China is in a similar situation since male infants are valued more than female infants (encouraged by the one child policy), there have been reports of women from rural areas being sold to men as sex slaves or wives, sometimes sold by their own family or kidnapped never to be seen again.

    A good documentary on China's gender imbalance is by National Georgraphic- China's Lost Girls.

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    Indian rape victim dies in hospital

    Indian rape victim dies in hospital5:01p.m. EST December 28, 20120 CommentsShare



    (Photo: Altaf Qadri, AP)
    STORY HIGHLIGHTS

    • The victim had suffered a heart attack and 'significant' brain injury
    • Police have arrested six people in connection with the attack on a New Delhi bus

    NEW DELHI (AP) — Doctors say a young Indian woman who was gang-raped and severely beaten on a bus in New Delhi has died at a Singapore hospital.
    A statement by Singapore's Mount Elizabeth hospital where the 23-year-old victim was being treated said she "died peacefully" early Saturday.
    The horrific ordeal of the woman galvanized Indians, who have held almost daily demonstrations to demand greater protection from sexual violence, from groping to rape, that impacts thousands of women every day, but which often goes unreported.
    She and a male friend were traveling in a public bus on Dec. 16 evening when they were attacked by six men who raped her and beat them both. They also inserted the rod in her body, stripped both naked and threw them off the bus on a road.



    Very sad.




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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadDwarf View Post
    This is so sad, I hope she pulls through with no long term injuries.
    Even if she had lived, she would have had no intestines and would have subsisted solely on an intravenous diet. There were six attackers and at least one (if not two) of them have admitted that they deserve death for what they did.

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