October 10th, 2006, 03:49 PM
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Scholastic's Horrible Histories Book Series: Promoting Hate
Please read how Scholastic is promoting the Aztecs here:
http://literanista.blogspot.com/2006...ries-book.html
I sent them an email to let them know this sort of depictment of Hispanics' ancestors is not acceptable.
Please pass on and let Scholastic know we don't want this hate-filled depiction in our classrooms.
Thanks!
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October 10th, 2006, 04:21 PM
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What sort of depiction of the Aztecs would be acceptable? Have you read the book? Hate-filled? Really? In what way?
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October 10th, 2006, 04:36 PM
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Considering they seem to relay the horrible histories of just about every race and ethnicity on the planet, i fail to see how latinos are being singled out.
Every dynasty, empire or tribe has a horrible history. Let's all get over ourselves.
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October 10th, 2006, 05:19 PM
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My daughter has all the Horrible Histories mags - well over 100 of them and they all depict the less pleasant aspects of various cultures, civilizations, etc from all over the world and throughout history. They focus on the 'negative' because that's what 'hooks' the kids into finding out more about it. And that's why they are called HORRIBLE Histories.
I don't think playing the race card is going to work, sorry.
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October 11th, 2006, 03:49 AM
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I think it's still educational... Kids still gotta learn that there were horrible things done in the past and it happened in every culture. Life isn't always rosy, history has never been pretty.
I studied anthropology and its research methods and one of the things I learned is that you can't always write something pleasant and glamourous about a culture, the reality is that there are unethical, unjust (subjective, of course, to both the author and the readers) and even grotesque facts and you still have to report that whether you like it or not.. Anthropology is a holistic discipline, you try to understand a culture from the insider point of view while acknowledging your outsider biases and perception.
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October 11th, 2006, 06:23 AM
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You're right mooms - and you of all people have probably had to deal with some REALLY negative perceptions about your culture and history because it's still fresh in a lot of people's memory. I am still shocked at the openly hostile and bigoted attitude to Japan in general, and the Japanese people in particular, from certain sections of the (older) Australian community. There's no doubt the atrocities of WW2 caused long and lasting emotional and physical damage among the Aussie servicemen who served and/or became POWs, but surely it's time to Move On now? And I have to say that the most rabid 'anti-Jap' veterans, etc are still quite happy to drive around in their Toyotas and Hondas. Sheesh.
There is still a LOT of xenophobia, if not flagrant racism in this country from and against all sections of the community. It's not going to explode into riots or open hostility, but it's always there, simmering away and people still get away with making the most outrageous remarks about other races or cultures. It's so disappointing because Australia has a reputation for being laid back and relaxed about so many other things.
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October 11th, 2006, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by A*O
My daughter has all the Horrible Histories mags - well over 100 of them and they all depict the less pleasant aspects of various cultures, civilizations, etc from all over the world and throughout history. They focus on the 'negative' because that's what 'hooks' the kids into finding out more about it. And that's why they are called HORRIBLE Histories.
I don't think playing the race card is going to work, sorry.
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Cool! I didn't know that they had a magazine. My kids have the books and really enjoyed them. I'm not raising little racists.
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October 11th, 2006, 10:08 AM
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Histories: The Angry Aztecs by Terry Deary
Find out about powerful priests, weird warriors, and the cunning Conquistadors, in this book which provides the foulest facts about Motecuhzoma, Cuahtemoc and other Angry Aztecs whose idea of fun was ripping out human hearts. Part of a series of books about history with the nasty bits left in!
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You guys are absolutely right, that blurb and that pic are totally not biased!
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October 11th, 2006, 10:22 AM
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So you're saying that they didn't practice human sacrifice?
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October 11th, 2006, 12:07 PM
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Well, they didn't do it "for fun" though... Ok, I kinda get where CoverGirl is coming from, she just didn't articulate it as good.
Here's another review
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Because of the fact that the series contains such titles as The Terrible Tudors and the The Cut-throat Celts some will say the series is not racist and is just trying to appeal to children's natural love of the gross.
But maybe it's the fact that I found the book in the hands of a fourth grade Latino boy, a student in the New York City public school system, at a time when Latinos, especially Mexicans are being stereotyped as criminal, among other things that disturbed me. This was not a book that the child's parent's chose for him. It was a book taken from his classroom library. Still not upset? The cover of the book features the cartoon drawing of an Aztec pyramid with its steps covered in blood and corpses. The back of the books says:The Angry Aztecs fills you in on the foulest facts Motecuhzoma, Cuahtemoc and other people with unpronounceable names, whose idea of fun was ripping out human hearts. Want to know: Why the Aztecs liked to eat scum? As a parent, this is certainly not the kind of book I want my daughter to read. Not because I am pro-censorship but because it offers the stereotypical Latinos/Indigenous people as violent stereotype which can be used to justify the conquest and all the atrocities that followed. I already called out the local school that carries this book. There are other ways to make history fun without resorting to stereotypes.
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http://vivirlatino.com/2006/10/10/re...ental.php#more
I still think these books are educational and stand by that opinion ( because violent past is a fact and not necessarily a stereotype in almost any culture) but I certainly hope that parents are introducing to their children other interpretations of the history and positive aspects of other cultures.
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October 11th, 2006, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by COVERGERL
You guys are absolutely right, that blurb and that pic are totally not biased! 
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Biased in what way?
Seriously, spell it out. If they're doing ALL races and ethnicities, how is this particular book ANY MORE biased compared to the others?
Can you even explain wtf you're saying? No, you can't.
Fuck i'm tired of all this racial bullshit. We've had a recent influx of idiots regarding this.
Did someone elses race-related board get shut down? Do we have to deal with this?
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October 11th, 2006, 01:48 PM
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IF you can't have fun taking part in human sacrifice, what's the point really?
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October 11th, 2006, 04:19 PM
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If anyone here wants to be offended by a kids history book then tell me your race, ethnicity or ancestry and I will find the appropriate Horrible History and post some choice 'racist' quotes for you to huff and puff about. Alternatively, you could get a life.
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October 12th, 2006, 05:39 AM
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hahahahahahaha...love you, A*O.
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