Storied celeb marriage breaks up over coke?

[GoldDust77]

Originally Posted by MrsDark

You only need worry about back and forths if you ARE an Angie fan (or less than a rabid Jen fan). Funny but it's actually the arrival of one or two these peeps that seems to have coincided with 30+ page threads. Trust me. I'm a long time Angie fan (as in over 10 years) and I even I get tired of reading after so many pages of stupidity and now know not to bother with any threads started by said folks or any threads that go over 6 or 7 pages...as most likely all of that is going to be these two going off about Angelina and bringing up Jen comparisons even if the thread had nothing to do with Jen initially. They must be bigger *fans* than I am! Can't speak for some other Angelina fans. But noticed they don't rant for 30 pages about Jen.

I agree with you, MrsDark. The ongoing LOOOOONG back-n-forth arguments over Angelina matters & Jennifer matters does get tedious. The rabid fans of one of them who think that THEIR WOMAN was the one that did nothing wrong, of course, clash with the rapid fans of the other one of the two of them believing that THEIR WOMAN was the one who did nothing wrong. Sometimes, people just have to agree to disagree. I am also a BIG Angelina fan & have been since i saw her in Gia in 1998. I personally don't agree with the adultery she engaged in with Brad; i personally think it was a morally wrong thing to do--but that's just my opinion. It doesn't change the fact that i am still a fan of hers.--Of her acting work, and of her amazing humanitarian work. I am also a Jennifer fan. She always made me laugh on Thursday nights on Friends, from highschool right on through my days as a married woman. I personally think that Jennifer was the one who was wronged (the "wrongee"?, heehee), but that opinion is not colored by the fact that i am a fan of hers. Many of us just have highly differing opinions of the Ange/Jen situation--it deals with sensitive, touchy, moral issues, so the highly differing opinions are very understandable. And highly differing opinions lead to LOOOOOONG arguments. But one of the reasons Gossip Rocks forum is so awesome, is because we can have give our opinions on things no matter how harsh & have bickering disagreements over topics we strongly believe in & get all heated about--but at the end of the day, there are no hard feelings, cuz it's just a fun entertainment forum.

Originally Posted by MrsDark

I really don't think this story is Jen and Brad. But I do think she's a coke user, even if she's not a total addict whose life revolves around it. And it's something she would have had to give up to get pregnant. I beg to differ with *addict* above about not being able to have a career and hide the use. Seen plenty of people manage to do this.

I assume you are referring to me as "*addict* above"? (I choose not to label or call myself "addict", as i no longer use drugs, and am many things other than a former cocaine user.) In any event, i did not say that people can't have a career while hiding their cocaine use. I too have seen plenty of people manage to maintain their career while using regularly using drugs.--In fact, I myself did just that. I was a quite hardcore cocaine user who even snorted drugs off my desk in my office, while maintaining a more-than-full-time high-stress job as Senior Paralegal to one of the top five Attorneys in our firm of 92 attorneys--a position i still have. What i was saying is not that people can't maintain their career while being a heavy cocaine user; i was simply saying that you usually see SOME signs of the person's cocaine use job-wise.

For examples of "signs" i'm referring to, in my case, during the period of my heaviest cocaine usage, my billable hours were significantly lower than compared to when i was not using cocaine. I looked somewhat more unkempt at work during my cocaine-using days--i.e. little makeup, unstyled hair, and typical outfit being a comfy blouse & 2nd-day-without-being-laundered-khakis.....as compared to my pre-and-post-cocaine-use-life when i'd typically wear straight-from-the-dry-cleaners dress suits and have carefully applied makeup & styled hair. During my period of regular using, most days i had bags under my eyes at work & looked tired more often than i had looked during my days of sobriety--thus making me less professional-looking to clients. I had a much harder time keeping up, overall, in my professional life, while on coke.

That's all i was getting at with regards to Jen Aniston--and of course, i/we don't know her, we only SEE her & HEAR ABOUT her thru photos & TV, but i was just trying to say that it would seem that if she were a significant cocaine user we would hear of SOME sort of speculation about her incapabilities to keep up in her demanding life as a performer working long hours, who had to have her lines memorized on time, who had to work out hard to maintain a very fit body along with a perfect tan & coiffed hair, and show up to interviews on time & chatty with no recognizable signs of fatigue and/or grouchiness (major signs of coke use), and show up to premieres, award shows, galas, & other high-wattage events fresh in personality & appearance. I've never heard any gossip about Jen falling behind in any of those areas.

I was just saying, in my opinion as a former coke addict who found it a very difficult struggle to even just KEEP my job during my days of using coke, that Jen appeared at all times to not only just KEEP her job but to do her job (and all the above-mentioned things that come along with it) with NO signs of drug addiction. Cuz, even though i kept my job, i definitely exhibited plenty of noticeable (though i tried to hide them) SIGNS of my addiction. (--coworkers chalked it up to personal tribulations i was going through at the time).

(Wow, i sure am rambling on, but) i just really think that if Jen were a coke addict, we gossip-lovers would have heard SOMETHING about the signs that drug addicts exhibit...that we would have heard about some SUSPICIONS... Remember Matthew Perry's drug & alcohol addictions? They were quite obvious. Like me, he held onto his job, but his job performance went down, and there were definitely ample SIGNS of his drug use--Remember his majorly-fluctuating weight around '99-'01? And concerned people who could tell something wasn't right were gossiping at the time that he was having a harder time remembering his lines, and was showing up late to work more often, and showing up to work looking tired, out of it, etc.... (Not to mention the dude drove his car into someone's house!)

I just think that there are always SIGNS when someone is a significant cocaine addict, which, judging from this Blind Item, the woman in the BI was--since it was significant enough for her husband to leave her over it....And a drug problem that significant would, in my opinion, exhibit some outward signs. (Geez, i sure can BABBLE today....Sorry for the long rant, that probably no one bothered to read anyway!)

Thank you for sharing your story and your insights on this topic. Congrats to you on your sobriety!

Thanks, Firecrotch! I appreciate it. (Your screenname & avatar make me laugh everytime i see it!)

[alcohol the honey]

I doubt that it's Brad and Jen. This blind item points to them, but I don't know. Some coke users are highly functional but I can't picture Jen using coke.

[MrsDark]

I can picture Jen using coke. I can even picture her using it fairly often. Maybe not to where it'd be such a big deal that she couldn't or wouldn't quit it if she really had to. But that's exactly the point. You don't have to be an addict at all to still have things that you'd need to quit (at least for a time)
to get pregnant and have a healthy baby, something she was already dragging her heels with the hubby on, while he was getting increasingly impatient.

I could totally see him bringing up her habits...cigs, booze coke, weed, extreme dieting and exercise...and her being resentful. Especially since he probably wouldn't feel the need to stop hitting the bong as long as he didn't do it in the house or around her.

This is why I thought it could be them. She really didn't want a baby then anyway (for whatever reason) and he did. I can totally see him pulling that out of his ass ("oh...having to give up your habits is why you won't have a baby..it's either that or me!") as an excuse for pulling out of the relationship and *falling* for someone else.

If someone thinks of another couple for whom all the info given fits better then my guess is wrong.

[KD]

I hate to say it, but I think it's them too. I like Jen. Is cocaine addiction like alcoholism where it is progressive and gets worse and worse? Or can someone w/ a cocaine addiction hold it together for forever?

[MrsDark]

Even if it's her, I don't think she necessarily has a cocaine addiction. I just think she uses from time to time like about half of Hollywood. I know this is going to sound controversial to some, but plenty of people use drugs off and on or even *on* for a lengthy time never become addicted. Same with alcohol. Does everyone who drinks regularly become an alcoholic? No.

But quitting your recreational activities altogether because someone else wants you to do something you don't really want to anyway probably would make anyone resentful.

[LynnieD]

^^I agree Mrs Dark. I can totally seeing her using, almost as a 'crutch'. Not addicted, if thats possible. She couldn't bear to lose control either, so she does it in moderation. Just me though.

[Sunrider]

MrsDark that makes a lot of sense.

[CherryDarling]

This isn't the first time I've heard about Jen having a coke habit...I've read it from time to time on various blogs that she hides it very well.

I've also heard that Vince loves the Bolivian Marching Dust as well...

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[KD]

^^^So *that's* what they have in common! I couldn't figure it out.

[Sassiness]

Originally Posted by LynnieD

^^I agree Mrs Dark. I can totally seeing her using, almost as a 'crutch'. Not addicted, if thats possible. She couldn't bear to lose control either, so she does it in moderation. Just me though.

Agree - can't see her as a Pete Doherty style crack head.... but can definitely imagine her, like so many others in the weird worlds of the rich and famous, having a bit now and then. Just enough to be happy, and for it to be a problem (along with the other things mentioned - booze, cigs, extreme dieting/exercise etc) for any pregnancy.

[WickedHo]

I read your posts, GD! Thank you for sharing. And I, too, agree with all you've said regarding Chinnifer being the cokehead.

[Bellatheball]

Originally Posted by MrsDark

You only need worry about back and forths if you ARE an Angie fan (or less than a rabid Jen fan). Funny but it's actually the arrival of one or two these peeps that seems to have coincided with 30+ page threads. Trust me. I'm a long time Angie fan (as in over 10 years) and I even I get tired of reading after so many pages of stupidity and now know not to bother with any threads started by said folks or any threads that go over 6 or 7 pages...as most likely all of that is going to be these two going off about Angelina and bringing up Jen comparisons even if the thread had nothing to do with Jen initially. They must be bigger *fans* than I am! Can't speak for some other Angelina fans. But noticed they don't rant for 30 pages about Jen.

I really don't think this story is Jen and Brad. But I do think she's a coke user, even if she's not a total addict whose life revolves around it. And it's something she would have had to give up to get pregnant. I beg to differ with *addict* above about not being able to have a career and hide the use. Seen plenty of people manage to do this.

Aw comeon now, you're not going to name names?

[SammysMom]

Originally Posted by SVZ

Carmen Electra and Dave Navarro?

They are split up? I missed that one.
Well I am inclined to say Heather and Ritchie. Just what I think

[MrsDark]

Originally Posted by Bellatheball

Aw comeon now, you're not going to name names?

Hey, I practically did! Just look for any thread about Brangelina/Angelina thread where even the title sounds ridiculously one-sided and runs for a dozen or more pages in a day or two! The last AJ thread I even bothered to read, much less respond to was by a normal board member...as opposed to someone whose head spins 360 in a rage over a freaking celeb (any celeb) they've never even met. If the shit from said poster was at least entertaining, remotely believable and didn't include attacks on other posters it might still be worth bothering with.

[Bellatheball]

^^ SO it's not me then?! j/k