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    Default Acne medication, dry peeling skin, and mineral makeup

    Here's my problem: I have cystic acne and I'm on a ton of RX topicals that make my skin a dry, flaky, peeling, red, irritated mess. And as such, I can't use my beloved Bare Minerals anymore. I'll wash my face, apply moisturizer and let it soak in. Then when I put on the Bare Minerals, the brush scrapes off more skin and I wind up with peeling skin and a spotty, streaky, uneven application of the makeup.

    Would an exfoliator help? Would I use it after the moisturizer, and then re-apply more moisturizer? The exfoliator would have to be extremely, extremely gentle and I don't know of a suitable one.

    I don't know what the solution is - anyone have any suggestions?

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    My daughter it taking Roaccutane (sp?) tablets for her acne and after only a month the transformation is truly miraculous. She was warned about the drying effects but so far she only has dry lips which are easily fixed with some lip balm. Her skin feels dryer too but she uses Olay Sensitive that seems to work. She was specifically told not to use an exfoliator as they are too harsh on skin that's basically regenerating from the inside out.

    She tried all the topical treatments, antibiotics, etc and none of them worked.
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    What about a washcloth or soft facebrush? That way you can control how much pressure you use and how hard or soft you slough off skin cells.

    I don't have sensitive skin, but I do this and it works wonders to get rid of my dry flaky patches.

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    I wouldn't exfoliate, because that makes it worse. Sorry you're going through this, Cali. Maybe for a couple of days you could apply moisturizer on your face several times throughout the day. It might help encourage your skin to not be as dry, even though you're on meds.

    Maybe you could still use the bare escentuals, but use a different brush? I have no idea how it works because I've never tried it, but maybe that's an option.
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    Talk to your treating dermatologist about how to handle the flakes.

    I would buy a good alpha/beta peel and do once a week OR if you're on a budget and can handle the oil, get rid of the dry skin by doing a Miracle Whip exfoliating peel. Put a thin layer of Miracle Whip (Regular Miracle Whip only, not the Lite version and not mayonnaise) on your face and wait ten minutes. Then lightly rub over your face and watch the flakes and dead skin come off your face in little balls. Then wash face as normal. Works great.

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    ^^ Mayo- really? Does that work really well? I've never heard of it!

    I called my dermatologist about it and they told me to stop the RX topicals for a week, and do intensive moisturizing until my skin is back to normal. Which sucks, because I really really want to clear up my skin. Uhg!

    Does anyone know about those light or laser treatments for acne? Do they really work? I'm so sick of fighting with my skin 24/7. I'm in my late 20s, I would have hoped my acne would be a relic of the teenage years. But no!

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    Not mayo - it has to be Miracle Whip. It works. Google it for testimonials.

    I've been doing it 3x a week lately because I'm dealing with flaky Retin A skin and product roll off. Works great.

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    Forgot to ask this before. Do you eat a lot of refined flour and sugar? Any foods that cause your insulin to spike can wreak havoc on your hormones and therefore skin, especially with cystic acne. A cleaner diet should help from the inside out. Ingesting apple cider vinegar helps skin as well. I speak from experience.

    If you want to go the medical route, I'm surprised you've not been put on spironolactone (sp) or even birth control pills. Both help with acne control.

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    Hey, Cali. I'm sorry about your skin--that sounds unpleasant and frustrating. But I bet in a few weeks you'll look and feel great. I don't have any idea what to do about the flaking. If the helpful advice here isn't enough, you might try the boards at acne.org.

    About Bare Escentuals makeup. I really like the way it looks and feels. I still use it sometimes. BUT I have very sensitive skin with rosacea, and I discovered that BE makeup contains bismuth oxychloride.

    Bismuth O is a cheap filler and is also supposed to help the makeup have good sheen and adhesion, but unfortch it also can be a major skin irritant. I wasn't sure about this, personally. I had expected my skin to improve a lot when I switched from liquid makeup to Bare Minerals, but it didn't. That was all I knew. I still liked the mineral makeup pretty well.

    Then one day on a whim I bought a cheap Ulta store-brand container of mineral foundation. I put it on and within an hour, my face was an irritated mess. I looked at the ingredients--bismuth O was the first ingredient listed, meaning there was probably a ton of it in there. That convinced me to look into other options.

    I switched to a brand of makeup called Everyday Minerals. I highly recommend it. A lot of people with rosacea and acne swear by it. I also tried Joppa Minerals but couldn't get a color match, although I think it may actually be healing to the skin because it contains clay. It seemed to help clear up my skin, but it didn't look great--I'm considering trying some samples of it again, just to make sure.

    Discussions about bismuth oxychoride are all over the web--here's a good one:

    Sterling Minerals™ Skin Care Guide: Is Bismuth Oxychloride Safe and What Is It?
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    Donnnnnnn't exfoliate especially if you're on retinoids, trust me. It will look nice the first time you do it, but eventually you'll have red, shiny, scabby skin.

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    ^^I'm on retinoids and have no problem with exfoliation.

    I agree with Shinola about that Bismuth crap they put in the mineral makeup. Broke my skin out terribly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beeyotch View Post
    What about a washcloth or soft facebrush? That way you can control how much pressure you use and how hard or soft you slough off skin cells.
    This was a great suggestion. When I thought about it, I've been washing my face without a washcloth- I just rinse off the cleanser with water from the sink or the shower. So I'm not really getting any of the dead skin off in that process. I've started using a washcloth and I think its helping a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by SVZ View Post
    Donnnnnnn't exfoliate especially if you're on retinoids, trust me. It will look nice the first time you do it, but eventually you'll have red, shiny, scabby skin.
    Come to think of it, aren't retinoids an exfoliator anyway?

    Quote Originally Posted by qwerty View Post
    get rid of the dry skin by doing a Miracle Whip exfoliating peel. Put a thin layer of Miracle Whip (Regular Miracle Whip only, not the Lite version and not mayonnaise) on your face and wait ten minutes. Then lightly rub over your face and watch the flakes and dead skin come off your face in little balls. Then wash face as normal. Works great.
    I'm thinking of giving this a shot. Do you have acne-prone skin? I'm a bit worried about the oils breaking me out.

    Also, on the Bismuth O, I haven't had any irritation at all with the Bare Escentuals, so I don't think I react to it. But I'll keep an eye on that - thanks for the info.

    I'm going to start back with the retinoids this week, my skin has finally calmed down. I've been able to use the Bare Minerals again which is awesome. Lets hope I can keep this under control. My plan for the week is to apply the retinoid (I use Tazorac) 3x a week, basically every other day.

    My dermatologist recommended this interesting technique that she calls 'sandwiching' where I apply the moisturizer first, then the Tazorac, and then more moisturizer. She said the Tazorac can penetrate through the moisturizer and that it should keep things in check. So I'm going to give it a shot!

    But I fully expect to be back here around Thursday, complaining and needing help once again!

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    Have you talked to your dermatologist about isotretinoin (eg, Roaccutane, Oratane, Accure, Isohexale)? I cannot tell you the difference it's made to my daughter who had quite severe acne on her face and back. We tried everything else so this was more or less a last resort but so far it's working very well. She's on a 6 month course and is now into the second month and while the acne hasn't totally cleared up it's 90% better than it was. She's also taking a low-dose oral contraceptive to keep her hormones under control and that can be very effective too. Have you tried that?
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    I'm also using a harsh product to treat acne that really dehydrates my skin and causes flakes.
    The last two nights I've been mixing about a nikel size of pure glycerine and distilled water then patting on my face at night. This really helps put the moisture back in without breaking me out.

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    Like A*O, I've had great success with Roaccutane and I was also so sick of having cystic acne. I had tried the pill, antibiotics, diet and still no success.

    I took it for about 6 months and couldn't exfoliate, wax etc during that time. My lips were dry but I used Amalyn at night and had no problem.

    I had literally no breakouts of cystic acne for about 6-7 years after that. Now, I get the occasional one or two but it's quite rare. I only wish I had taken it Roaccutane years before as I have some slight acne scarring as a result.

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