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    I've finally decided to bite the bullet and do real hair dying myself with stuff from a beauty supply store. The kind where you buy the color and the developer separately, mix it in a stylist bowl, and paint it on-like you would get in a salon. I want more intense color than what you can typically find in boxed dye.

    Does anyone dye their own hair this way instead of with the box? Any tips for someone trying it for the first time? I've been doing box dye myself for years, so not a complete beginner, just for this type of product.

    I'm going with this shade of red

    Not too bright and crazy, but still fun.

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    It is not that different to bottle dye. Just be sure how much developer you have to mix with the color.
    Video: How to Mix Professional Hair Color | eHow.com

    Living abroad I brought my own professional color (from my usual hairdresser) and the exact amount of developer to a 'real' local hairdresser, He left it on 1 hour instead of the 20 minutes , I kept on asking him to wash it, and when I left there was still developer in the bottle. I am sure if I had done it myself exactly as directed it would have been a lot better.

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    I do this shit all the time; I've made mistakes so you don't have to!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What level is your new growth and what level is your already dyed hair?
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    My new growth is a level 4 brown, the old dyed stuff is about at a level 5 auburn shade right now, and the new dye is a level 7. I picked up a volume 20 developer under recommendation from the staff at the beauty supply place since I can't go full on red because of work.

    I also hate that color depositing shampoos are disappearing since reds NEED them to stay bright. I know you can mix a little of the dye in with a sulfate free shampoo to sort of make your own, that should be from the stuff you already mixed with the developer, right? I grabbed a red glaze to use in between too so I can refresh the color.

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    L'oreal bought out Artec which is an awesome color depositing shampoo and conditioner, my pricey colorist/chemical specialist swears by them and so do I.

    How much warmth do you pull on your natural growth? Does it instantly go orange or is it a mousey brown level 4? You're only lifting about one level and going for red so warmth shouldn't be an issue. You could even go so far as to use 10 Vol. or mix half 10 with 20 and mix with your color. If the levels you're giving are accurate and you desire red then you should be fine. Now when you want to go platinum let me know.

    Also, always add a neutral protein filler to your all over color.

    Watch out for hot roots, when you lift scalp's warmth will make it develop faster which creates a lighter colored halo around the head.

    If you want a true red without gold use the unred or red/gold color corrector drops to counteract brassiness. I made my own anti brass shampoo using a moisturizing shampoo and conditioner adding 45 drops to 3.5 oz of shampoo/conditioner. Should be dark yet intense lilac.

    You should be able to achieve the desired level of lift using vol 10 mixed with 20 and in the end damage your hair just a tiny bit less.
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    It's a pretty straight medium brown, some reddish undertones already, and it's a high lift color so I don't think it'll have too much problem pulling the 2-3 levels. Even if it stays a little dark that's OK (and why I didn't pick the 30 developer), I need it to not be too crazy because of work. The color I picked is described as a red blonde, and I've had success with boxed dyes in that family before.

    I also watched a few youtube videos to sorta get the hang of the application differences, so I hope I'll be good. I guess I'll know tomorrow-at least I have Thursday off too so I can go back to beauty supply and try to fix it if it goes horribly wrong, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Kill Me View Post
    L'oreal bought out Artec which is an awesome color depositing shampoo and conditioner, my pricey colorist/chemical specialist swears by them and so do I.

    How much warmth do you pull on your natural growth? Does it instantly go orange or is it a mousey brown level 4? You're only lifting about one level and going for red so warmth shouldn't be an issue. You could even go so far as to use 10 Vol. or mix half 10 with 20 and mix with your color. If the levels you're giving are accurate and you desire red then you should be fine. Now when you want to go platinum let me know.

    Also, always add a neutral protein filler to your all over color.

    Watch out for hot roots, when you lift scalp's warmth will make it develop faster which creates a lighter colored halo around the head.


    If you want a true red without gold use the unred or red/gold color corrector drops to counteract brassiness. I made my own anti brass shampoo using a moisturizing shampoo and conditioner adding 45 drops to 3.5 oz of shampoo/conditioner. Should be dark yet intense lilac.

    You should be able to achieve the desired level of lift using vol 10 mixed with 20 and in the end damage your hair just a tiny bit less.
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    This is really interesting. Can I ask for your help as well? I have a sort of mousey light brown maybe level 6 to start with and I want it dirty blond (Diaz before she went platinum, Nicky hilton kind of)
    Where I live now they only know how to do black. So I get highlights and it gets all zebra-like, it has always an orangy tint to it (they do not use bleach they use color for highlights?? still costing me 100$). then I come home and put Garnier belle color 4 ash blonde over it (leave it for 5 minutes otherwise it gets to dark) but after 2 weeks the color starts fading and the orangy strawberry color come out again.
    Now I want to skip the highlights, and just put a color on it? can you give me some tips?

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    I used to use the artec products and when I was looking for the new loreal version recently everywhere I looked kept saying it wasn't available anymore. I now have the ONE depositing shampoo I was able to find, called Ravishing Reds that I found at a beauty supply place, and it is AWFUL. My hair has never been dryer. I just can't use it anymore.

    I also miss Kiwi's line. They actually had shades within the color families. My hair used to look awesome when they were still around.

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    I ve been doing that home hair dye for years and do my girl,s hair too.
    Tips?Start with the lightest shade you can get.Do roots first and give 10 minutes to the rest of the hair.It might take 3 or 4 times for the color to catch.
    Always use a cap,keeps the hair warm and the color develops faster.
    Massage the hair from the roots to the lenght very well.This is very important.
    Rince it well and then shampoo.
    I use a semi permanent dye,Dimencions,i first got it in London and now i can find it here or on line.It has the most beautiful reds ever and it is soo easy to use.
    I usually do the roots with a regular dye and refresh the color in between with dimencions.Check it out ,Noday.
    Good luck and keep in mind,red is a bitch if you want to change it.
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    You do have to bear in mind that single process color won't lift previously colored hair, so the parts of your hair that are already colored a level 5 won't pull as light as the new growth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kasippu View Post
    This is really interesting. Can I ask for your help as well? I have a sort of mousey light brown maybe level 6 to start with and I want it dirty blond (Diaz before she went platinum, Nicky hilton kind of)
    Where I live now they only know how to do black. So I get highlights and it gets all zebra-like, it has always an orangy tint to it (they do not use bleach they use color for highlights?? still costing me 100$). then I come home and put Garnier belle color 4 ash blonde over it (leave it for 5 minutes otherwise it gets to dark) but after 2 weeks the color starts fading and the orangy strawberry color come out again.
    Now I want to skip the highlights, and just put a color on it? can you give me some tips?
    it sounds to me like you need a toner to cool down the colour and kill the orangy tint. maybe next time you get your hair done ask them if they have toners, if not buy your own but i have no idea which one you're supposed to get, but i'm sure one of our experts here will be able to help you.
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    Yes, some type of toner or a gloss. But it's not really the kind of thing you should do yourself. To cancel tones you need to go with the opposite color on the color wheel, ex: blue cancels orange, green cancels red, purple cancels gold. But working with those colors can be tricky, you can end up with muddy colored hair.

    Hair coloring has a lot to do with base color, working with exposed pigment when lifting, ex: med brown hair exposes red/orange pigment when using peroxide so to get to a natural looking red you choose a red dye that has a gold or copper base, not a red base, you don't want to add more red or you get an unnatural red- closer to Ronald McDonald than Julianne Moore. (Although unnatural may be the desire, so you adjust based on what you want)

    Most pro colors list in the color's numbering system what the base colors are, and then the tone. Either as like 7AB, which is a level 7 with an ash blue base, or 7AG which would be level seven with an ash green base or with numbers like : 7-2.
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    Thanks everyone! I dyed it this morning, added the neutral protein JKM suggested, capped it, and then finished with a color sealer after I rinsed out the dye. And I love it! The color is pretty even (there are a few spots where I can tell I didn't section carefully, but they aren't obvious and are well hidden), no bright ring at scalp though! I also love the dimension of the color, and my hair feels so much healthier than after using the drugstore stuff. I think I'm going to keep doing it this way, even of it is a little extra work.

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