[Lobelia]

^^^That's exactly how I feel. Years ago, I was able to glean some intelligence & humor, but he became increasingly self-absorbed & gross. He turned me off completely with all that Fartman garbage (yes, many moons ago). He did that on some award show, where he was lowered to the floor wearing assless pants, and bulldozed over the show. It was so UNFUNNY. And I remember some band trying to receive their award, and he completely intruded into their moment & wouldn't go away, like some dumbass neighborhood tard kid.

Maybe it's unfair to hate on him all these years because of that, but so be it. Recently we had a thread where someone (Jenna Jameson?) was riding that sex mechanism thing on his show. Sorry, I think that's disgusting.

He could be the keeper of the truths of the universe for all I know, but if you gotta wade through miles of sewer to get to him, forget it.