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Originally Posted by Sasha
Kingcap, I hope you are right, but here are a couple of things to consider.
1-In your estimation of what could and should happen, you are presuming Hillary, and her supporters, are reasonable and sane. They are not.
2-If Hillary manages to wrestle the nom, the party leadership would urge unity and would back her to the hilt. They are all cowards. Look how long it took the supers to get behind Obama-they were pissing their pants in fear of the Clinton's.
3-The Clinton's "know" things about people. Do you think they would hesitate to use such knowledge to strongarm votes at the convention?
4-The media will soothe and cajole the populace, telling us to get over it, just like they did in 2000 when the election was stolen right before our eyes.
5-The Dem base has no power. We get screwed time and time again by the party and it's leadership.
6-When has the Dem party ever cared that they were "handing" an election the Republicans?
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You make some good points, Sasha. But consider this:
1-In your estimation of what could and should happen, you are presuming Hillary, and her supporters, are reasonable and sane. They are not.
No matter how insane Hillary, or some of her supporters, may be they can't successfully pull off a coup without a LOT of collateral damage.
2-If Hillary manages to wrestle the nom, the party leadership would urge unity and would back her to the hilt. They are all cowards. Look how long it took the supers to get behind Obama-they were pissing their pants in fear of the Clinton's.
The leadership could jump behind Hillary as much as they want, but that's not going to translate into votes. Especially not from the very pissed off Obama and Edwards supporters. Even some of Hillary's own supporters, who wanted her to just let it go, would probably turn against her.
3-The Clinton's "know" things about people. Do you think they would hesitate to use such knowledge to strongarm votes at the convention?
The Clintons don't have the kind of power they used to wield. Don't get me wrong, they still have power, but not enough to strongarm the entire party. The fact that former Clinton allies were jumping ship to Obama during the primaries proves that.
4-The media will soothe and cajole the populace, telling us to get over it, just like they did in 2000 when the election was stolen right before our eyes.
As much as Hillary whined about the media loving Obama more than her. Trust me, she'll get villified by a good portion of the media.
5-The Dem base has no power. We get screwed time and time again by the party and it's leadership.
Can't argue you with you there. The Dems are notorious for having no backbone.
6-When has the Dem party ever cared that they were "handing" an election the Republicans?
I agree with that, to a point. But considering all of the bitterness after the primary season, the Dems have been all about party unity, and even they know handing Hillary the nomination now would blow any unity out of the water. The Dems aren't that dumb, I hope.